Professor Elm
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lol not that easy to have the special dark, bat g, and judge in the same hand after u have already most likely used a giratina/judge in the game.
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lol not that easy to have the special dark, bat g, and judge in the same hand after u have already most likely used a giratina/judge in the game.
Mach
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You could have a Sp. Dark and a Roseanne's, or a basic Dark and a Collector to grab 2 Bats and Giratina, or just one Bat while having a turn in hand, or...
EDIT: Hmm, forgot that you can't play a second supporter in your turn, therefore Judge + Roseanne's/Collector is out. There's still SP Radar, Luxury Ball, and the odd Communication though.
EDIT: Hmm, forgot that you can't play a second supporter in your turn, therefore Judge + Roseanne's/Collector is out. There's still SP Radar, Luxury Ball, and the odd Communication though.
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Shino Bug Master
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So wait, its crippling when your opponent gives you a 4 card hand, but then when you Mimic them and take a new 4 card hand, that is somehow a counter? I really don't see the train of thoguht on Chatot here.
Uh, no. They judge, then Impersonate a Cyrus's Initiative.
Box of Fail
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^Well for all you know his 'Cyrus' could have been referring to a Cyrus's Initiative! 
thepliskin5005
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maybe jumpluff or maybe my deck!!
A 50-50 matchup with Jumpluff is not good enough to win IMO. Sablelock is definitely good, but it isn't played as much as it should be. The deck is not very consistent in keeping a disruptive lock as top decks can change the game too much. Maybe if more people played it, but a lot of luck will be involved.
prodigal_fanboy
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You're ignorant. Look at Regionals results. Gengar/Machamp, Dialga, and DPL. BRs brought us Luxape and Flygon variants. Nidoqueen makes it harder to work around Fainting Spell, and gives Gengar the option for solid damage vs. smart luxape players who tuck their trainers under to minimize poltergeist. Having a nice Raybees matchup doesn't hurt either.
Nekizalb
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I don't think DialgaChomp can win- it's too slow overall and although it does have some decent matchups it struggles against other decks. Also, a tech Blaziken FB can really hurt it. LuxChomp can also snipe both of DialgaChomp's Garchomps or spray Healing Breaths, then whittle down Dialga until it dies.
If Sablelock has good luck, I can see it winning. However, I believe LuxChomp gives it trouble, so it would take a really skilled player to win with Sablelock.
Lol @ prodigal_fanboy, even though he presents true information.
If Sablelock has good luck, I can see it winning. However, I believe LuxChomp gives it trouble, so it would take a really skilled player to win with Sablelock.
Lol @ prodigal_fanboy, even though he presents true information.
silverst31n
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watch out for erl dawgs
Mach
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Then why is Chatot Mimicing? Shouldn't they wait for a larger hand before dropping the ability to draw 7+ cards instead rushing for 4? Dropping it right after Judge-Initiative is really stupid.
magicarp101
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you guys are forgeting a important deck gyrados i mean you guys are already counting it out it wreaks sp depending on the list like if you run azelf with downer material with mespirit and wrp to take care of gengar and you could have 2 gyrados out so you get a easier flas bite and plox if you get psychic lock going t2 or t3 you win
SalamenceGreat
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^Gyarados is not THAT hard to beat for SP decks. Lucario and Luxray say hi.
As for my further thoughts, ANY deck, or ALMOST any deck can win. All decks have the potential to do well.
Luxchomp can and will lose to Salamence (for example) if the luxchomp player is making bad moves.
My point is that if the player is skilled enough and does not make errors in their plays, they have just as much chance at victory as anyone else.
So the deck doesn't matter all that much.
As for me, I still think a good rogue will win. That rogue being Garchomp Rush. (Stage 2)
It murders Gyarados. Has 50/50 Luxchomp match ups and is really good against Jumpluff.
It outspeeds Tyrannitar and Dialga G.
Overall, after some weeks of testing, Garchomp Rush can do really well.
As for my further thoughts, ANY deck, or ALMOST any deck can win. All decks have the potential to do well.
Luxchomp can and will lose to Salamence (for example) if the luxchomp player is making bad moves.
My point is that if the player is skilled enough and does not make errors in their plays, they have just as much chance at victory as anyone else.
So the deck doesn't matter all that much.
As for me, I still think a good rogue will win. That rogue being Garchomp Rush. (Stage 2)
It murders Gyarados. Has 50/50 Luxchomp match ups and is really good against Jumpluff.
It outspeeds Tyrannitar and Dialga G.
Overall, after some weeks of testing, Garchomp Rush can do really well.
loudkirbyking
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Though it seems that this won't end until after someone wins, I'll add my thoughts.
Luxchomp: You know, I've never seen or played against one personally, so I can't really form much of an opinion. But, it DOES seem like it can, and will either win or get close.
Jumpluff and versions of it: Jumpluff is pretty consistent, no matter what anyone says. As long as they act smart and play right, Jumpluff can easily win.
Gyarados: I think that it's not going to win with so many Luxray's around, and if they have a prized Magikarp, or it gets sent to the lost zone... Heh, gg.
Cursegar: It's all depending on the opponent of how it'll go, though it does stand a chance. I give it credit, it is decent.
Dialgachomp: It's good, until you meet one hard fire type. The ability to take out poke-bodies can be handy
Donphan and versions of it: It's good. 60 for 1, it could bring up a fight. Just, hope you don't get matched up with Jumpluff.
Feralistoise or Feraligatr/Blastoise: It can do good, but with Luxray hanging out everywhere, and the fact that it's just so slow... Can't smile much on this deck
Sablelock: This one has hope, very much. Easy donk on some area's, but not so much on others. It does have hope, and has much potential to do good.
Kingdra: Can do very good, just hope people don't tech a fire type in for Prime. I give this one hopes of doing good.
Shuppet: Never faced it, thus cannot give an opinion about it, sorry.
Rogue: I give rogue deck's the best chance of winning. Who knows, something might randomly shoot up and win. With many old good cards coming into close, people are going to want to use them to the max, after all. 'Least one can hope a rogue does well...
I'm sorry if I missed out on any other very popular deck types, as my knowledge is limited, like others. But, I do hope that things go well at Nat's, as who knows what might happen *laughs at thought of Bidoof winning everything*.
Luxchomp: You know, I've never seen or played against one personally, so I can't really form much of an opinion. But, it DOES seem like it can, and will either win or get close.
Jumpluff and versions of it: Jumpluff is pretty consistent, no matter what anyone says. As long as they act smart and play right, Jumpluff can easily win.
Gyarados: I think that it's not going to win with so many Luxray's around, and if they have a prized Magikarp, or it gets sent to the lost zone... Heh, gg.
Cursegar: It's all depending on the opponent of how it'll go, though it does stand a chance. I give it credit, it is decent.
Dialgachomp: It's good, until you meet one hard fire type. The ability to take out poke-bodies can be handy
Donphan and versions of it: It's good. 60 for 1, it could bring up a fight. Just, hope you don't get matched up with Jumpluff.
Feralistoise or Feraligatr/Blastoise: It can do good, but with Luxray hanging out everywhere, and the fact that it's just so slow... Can't smile much on this deck
Sablelock: This one has hope, very much. Easy donk on some area's, but not so much on others. It does have hope, and has much potential to do good.
Kingdra: Can do very good, just hope people don't tech a fire type in for Prime. I give this one hopes of doing good.
Shuppet: Never faced it, thus cannot give an opinion about it, sorry.
Rogue: I give rogue deck's the best chance of winning. Who knows, something might randomly shoot up and win. With many old good cards coming into close, people are going to want to use them to the max, after all. 'Least one can hope a rogue does well...
I'm sorry if I missed out on any other very popular deck types, as my knowledge is limited, like others. But, I do hope that things go well at Nat's, as who knows what might happen *laughs at thought of Bidoof winning everything*.
Austino
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Wow! SP has to have lux and lucario to ohko a gyarados...how irrelevant when gyarados needs no energy and no tech to ohko a lux. I went 4-2 against luxchomp at states, with the 2 losses being donks.
110 tail revenge says hi. Lucario is what LuxChomp *needs* to keep up with gyarados.
silverst31n
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if im playing against gyara with sp ill never KO a dos unless im forced to
bright look dragon rush all day son
bright look dragon rush all day son
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