Discussion in 'World Championships' started by davidy321, Aug 17, 2008.
Spot On josh couldnt have said it better myself
Wow, go Ness! 2 World Champin wins is AMAZING!!!
That's different. We all know who Gino is.
How's it different.
So what if we know who Gino is?
That is the same lack of respect that booing would have.
:lol: ..... nah dude
this deck was no lucksack.
if you watched him play you would've seen that.
this wasn't a casual turn 2 Blissey deck with Boost energy and such..
this deck ran 4 Beach, 4 ER2, 4 Cessation Crystal, Holon WP so that it couldn't get Sonic Bladed, and so many other techs like Pluspowers and then massive Draw Power once all that is finished.
Gallade would have to flip 3 prizes per Blissey.
at the end of the game, they're usually out of resources, and the Blisseys keep coming.
this deck was incredible, and he beat most of the G&G (and Empoleon)that he faced, as long as he got decent setup, or ER2 flips...
IMO theres definitely no such thing as a deck lucksacking it's way to Top 2 at worlds.
luck can sometimes win small League tournaments, or maybe Cities, but not Worlds.
Worlds takes great skill and planning.. and even the strange decks out there, that seem to be bad, have a reason for being used :thumb:
look at Magma for example. everyone at first thought it was winning because of lucky Reversal flips, just because Americans thought reversal was a dumb card.
but in reality, reversal was amazing, especially in Magma, and Magma itself fully deserved its worlds win
Not only that, but I'd like to add: If lucksacking is the only way to succeed with this deck, how come it didn't only finish 2nd in Masters, but 2nd in Seniors too? AND went 6-1 in the Masters grinder Flight 1? Khanh Le and the Atanassov brothers had lots of success with their deck, they made a golden list that trounced the metagame.
I have question tho:
Gino said he was the best player EVER to play pokemon because he won Nats(the biggest tourney we've had so far),so since Ness beat him in top4 at worlds,dosent that make Ness the best player EVER to play this game??
Ive been wondering for days about that
Gino is a reall good player, and his team work together really we33.
anyway 5 was h636n f/f
and he -3ayed 3 er2
some international players also cheered for ness cause hes #1 in everything not just pokemon
lol... Finals was a great match to watch....
Pokemon tcg is not a transitive game (I fail at pokemanzs but I can do long math words lol)
Khan had little to nothing to do with the building of the deck.
And it wasnt boost blissey or anything like that it was actually well thought out and very consistent so just back off with the whole "omg how lucky could he be" comments
If you have the list post it, I'm sure we would all like to see it.
I wasent there for the finals but i did hear about it. Its true that the did boo the Norway player but its because Ness had a HUGE section. It was apparent when Gino lost and they errupted for over 4 minutes straight. Its a disgrace that it wasent a quiet section and a poorly shown group. IM shocked that Shwimmer and a judge dident have them removed for that. I'm expecting some punishment or some stricter rules next year thanks for this Ness is a great player with a HUGE base but there has to be rules on how quiet crowds watching a final can be :nonono:
Congrats to the following players:
Ness for winning his 2nd title
The Norway player for 2nd which is a hard thing to gte
Gino L for getting 3rd which shows that Nats champ can backup his title well
Jimmy for putting a hard game against Gino and getting 4th
Good luck to all of you next year and hope you do as good as this year
^If you weren't there, then how can you claim that it is true they were booing?
Psh, finals was not anything special at all. Everything just flowed well for Ness, nothing special. Semifinals was infinity times better.
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How could anyone sa Blissey is a lucksack deck? It is extremely consistent, and nobody saw it coming at all. It doesn't even run Claydol, yet is faster and more self-sufficient than Plox or any of the Archetypes were.
I don't have the exact list but everything I've posted so far is the main things anyone would need to know.
9 fire energy
4 holon f/f
1 fighting energy
3 pokedex handy
4 cessation crystal
4 crystal beach
1 night maintenance
The pokemon/energies I know for a fact as he told me/let me use his deck for some friendlies. Trainers I cant remember, thus Im missing some of the 37, which part of are in the unsure
I am 99% sure I saw 2 Chatots in play vs Frankie.
i remember he played 2 scott, 3-4 pluspower and i think 3 rosies
Nope, 1 chatot. That's what he said/I saw when searching through deck
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