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Worlds 2012?

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I think that this sucks. It has been on the other side of the country for the last four years. It needs to come back to Florida. If you can't afford to come here, to bad.
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King Piplup said:
Sorry for mis-interpreting you. :redface: Really should've read just a little bit closer.

Sorry
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That's quite alright, we have all made that mistake before but what matters is that you were big enough to actually apologize. Thanks so much for the apology, it means alot.:smile:
 
NEMark said:
I don't get it, why Hawaii?
Orlanda was a lot cheaper and east coast hasn't had a big tournament in forever.
If this is about the japanese I don't think that going to Orlando is that difficult for them.
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because august in orlando is HURRICAIN season and pokemon goes to tropical places because it's where THEY want to go on vacation
 
I'm glad someone started the complain about worlds location/suggest worlds be held in my hometown thread.

It's been what, like 11 months since I've seen one of these?
 
there is a surprising amount of complaining here so ill just explain this in very direct and non-descript terms

Pokemon does not make money from organized play. We do not pay anything to play in these tournaments (tho im aware in Europe they do pay a nominal fee, some countries dont have organized play). You could argue we buy packs in order to fund Organized Play, however, the majority of the pack buyers are casual players who will not be attending the World Championship. Maybe 1000 people will attend worlds on a 'good year' in San Diego, the hundreds of thousands of others who buy packs could care less. None of this even taking into account the enormous cost of running the tournaments and providing scholarships and travel awards for the hundreds of players around the world.

We are extremely fortunate to have tournaments on a regular basis at all, let alone complaining about how Worlds isn't close enough to where you live. We contribute little financially directly to Organized Play so it is within their every right to choose wherever they want for Worlds. If the Pokemon Company executives say it should be easier to get to by the Japanese, then that's that. There is little point complaining despite it being human nature to do so, let's be grateful we get tournaments at all.
 
It seems that pokemon Is cutting back a lot, which I understand because of thE economic downturn, but then turn around and put it in Hawaii and make us pay thousands of dollars? Argh.
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Lawman said:
Also, all of you clamoring for a worlds in Japan, Europe, etc., please think of the expense to just get a hall and all the equipment to said location. Can you say "budget buster"??? I knew you could!
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That's probably a valid statement for Europe, but I would expect Japan has fair amount of equipment of a similar nature to what's availale here. I can't speak as to the cost of renting the facility (Japan might be more expensive just beause the average land value is higher, etc.), however.

ATJdragon said:
Pokemon does not make money from organized play.
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That's not completely true. Pokemon makes very little direct money from organized play. They do make a fair bit off those nice World Championships decks that come out every year, and I'm pretty sure they make money either renting out space to sellers or selling stuff to people themselves (they do run the store at worlds, right?). Granted, none of this covers the entire cost of OP, but it is inaccurate to say they make no money from it (unless you strictly meant a direct profit rather than revenue).
 
OldMan_GG said:
whether it be japan, orlando, new york or europe there will always be a group of players who will find the trip relatively expensive compared to other players. unfortunately if you want to attend worlds you will need the money to attend it. yes it favors people who have money or the capacity to earn the money required to attend worlds. it seems unfair but thats the reality of life.
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Problem is that its always the same people :/ American main land is expensive enough for us but we still go, but hawai is just :/
 
dreamdemon said:
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I think that this sucks. It has been on the other side of the country for the last four years. It needs to come back to Florida. If you can't afford to come here, to bad.
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That's kind of a two way street, bud. While Orlando would be ideal for some of us, including myself, P!P is putting it in Cali/Hawaii, and if you can't afford to go there, too bad.

I can understand what Pokemon is doing, as far as locations within the US is concerned. As has been previously pointed out, US Nats has been on the Eastern Side of the country since its inception, so for west coast players, Nats is as nightmarish to get to as Worlds is for everyone else. As previously stated, as much as I would prefer Florida, I understand (not entirely agree with, though) the west coast/hawaiian Worlds.
 
I'm pretty sure the majority of people who play pokemon in the world are from Japan and the US. I said the majority not everyone and by putting Worlds in Hawaii it gives the Japanese fairly ease access to Worlds and putting it in San Diego gives fairly ease access to the US players.
While some US players might complain about living on the east coast and not being able to go to the west coast what do you think the west coast players would say about it moving to the east coast?
And if there were an international worlds in Europe it would make it hard for the majority of players to go.
 
Wailord Master said:
I'm pretty sure the majority of people who play pokemon in the world are from Japan and the US. I said the majority not everyone and by putting Worlds in Hawaii it gives the Japanese fairly ease access to Worlds and putting it in San Diego gives fairly ease access to the US players.
While some US players might complain about living on the east coast and not being able to go to the west coast what do you think the west coast players would say about it moving to the east coast?
And if there were an international worlds in Europe it would make it hard for the majority of players to go.
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The most invites per region are given to Europe, so although there are always going to be players that have to pay more or less depending on where they live, having it here wouldn't be a problem in that sense.

I think everyone accepts that there are going to be some years, that Worlds is more expensive than others. What really sucks is that it's essentially held in the same two locations, and there is no balance or a particular year in which people who hadn't been able to go previously, are now able to.

The only reason I could understand is that POP have a tight budget for Worlds, and need to hold it in America where they can hold it more cheaply. However when it's in Hawaii so often, that doesn't really make sense either. Especially with all the extra money they have to spend on the Travel Awards for people with paid invites, that must get really pricey.
 
I can't remember the last time Orlando was hit by a hurricane, hurricane season is an extremely lame reason to not have Worlds in Orlando. From going to San Diego, I can say that if you want other things to do that aren't Pokemon there is so much more to do in Orlando. I mean, who doesn't want to go to Disney or all of the other cool parks in the area.
 
Lawman said:
Lets see....TCPi is in the USA. They run Organized Play and have set up the Championships, providing prizes for all. I guess they ought to get to choose the locale.

Also, all of you clamoring for a worlds in Japan, Europe, etc., please think of the expense to just get a hall and all the equipment to said location. Can you say "budget buster"??? I knew you could!

I'd love to see Worlds in different locales, but I understand the economics on TPCi also.

Keith

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I believe the dates are Aug 10-12, 2012

Keith
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Not necessarily true for Europe, but perhaps it's time to see PCL pull the reins on a Worlds event? That way, a Japanese World Championship actually wouldn't be that expensive (relatively speaking).
 
Here's what I'll put into the dispute, and I know that I'll get a lot of mad responses from this. (while reading, though, keep in mind that I reside in the US)

American players, stop complaining. Australian players, stop complaining. Japanese players, stop complaining. You're all within a day of flight to Hawaii. European players, on the other hand, would have major sleep issues no matter what.

Honestly, there really is no centralized location that would be easier to get to than California for the majority of countries currently involved in Organized Play. Mexico would be a better localized area, but seeing as there is no direct TPC branch stationed there.

Speaking of which, all of you here should be lucky that you have official tournaments of any sort. In South Africa, for example, they just got back into the TCG in general with Black & White. South Korea got back into the TCG with DP, and now are beginning Organized Play stuff.
 
Hawaii is more expensive for almost everybody-- and by 'everybody' I mean the entirety of this game's player base, not just all of the U.S.. I can see Hawaii being chosen as the site once every third year due to its exotic appeal factor, but it makes no sense for there to be a World championship there EVERY OTHER YEAR. There is no good reason to completely exclude Florida from the picture either.
 
I'd say East Coast. DC would be great, and though there is no ocean, there is other stuff to do like Kayaking. [del]And I could take the Metro to Worlds[/del]. VA would also be great.
 
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