Most Deadly Blissey/Chansey Move set?

[Squirtle]

OK, There are 2 moves that comes to mind that are like no brainers:

1)SoftBoiled(Duh he/She will have soo many HP)
2)REcover/Rest/Anyhting to restore HP if Possible.

Thoe are the only ones I can think of right now... Anyone else got any suggestions?


Squirtle

[Burninating_Torchic]

well, it's pretty obvious that you need to give it a ton of Defense, Speed, and Attack raising items(ESPECIALLY defense), but in terms of attacks...Don't give it all physical attacks. Throw in a Blizzard/Thunder or something. Maybe a Psychic attack to cover weakness. =/

[Articjedi]

Hmmm,

softboiled/recover
seismictoss
thunderwave
ice beam

That work?

[Squirtle]

Well, I made my Own Move set, Here it is:
Soft Boiled
Recover
Psychic
Ice beam/Something to Raise Defense
@ Focus band(Trade fomr R/S)

That is a Good move set. If anyone has any more suggestions LMK.... Also, Art. You shouldn't have alot of attack moves on a blissey. He has a low ATK. and has better defense.

Squirtle

[Burninating_Torchic]

well, articjedi, he wants it to have both recover and softboiled. But, if you are using this for those lv50 side events at TCG tourneys, I'd say just recover. However, I do not think Thunderwave is needed. Paralysis is one of the more impractical special conditions in GBA. 25% chance of it fully paralyzing them into not attacking. Also, why seismic toss? Seems really pathetic, and if thats the one that does dmg based on lvl, its impossible for it to OHKO. Now, I remember from a roleplay I used to do on another board where all it was was Gameboy-type battles. In it, one guy had Blissey, and I believe this was it's moveset:

Toxic(POSITIVE)
Recover(90% sure)
Blizzard(90% sure)
Thunder(80% sure)

So yeah. That actually looks pretty good to me.

[Squirtle]

Burning Torchic, That is somehting I like, I would Drop the Bliz. or Thunder for soft boiled though. (It is good in and out of Battle) Other wise Nice one.

[Burninating_Torchic]

ok, so apparently we're not talking about GBA side events then, softboiled is impractical compared to Recover for them. If we're choosing between bliz. and thunder, I'd say Blizzard. Why? It beats more typically used guys then thunder does. Water just doesn't have many guys besides Gyarados and Blastoise and Kyogre and the super strong ones, whereas Ice Covers more type(it beats flying just like electric). Dragon, Rock, Ground(I think), Grass, and probably more. Moveset:

Toxic
Recover
Blizzard
Softboiled

Glad you liked the Toxic idea though. It's pretty cool :)

[Masamune156]

I dunno about ya'll but I like the idea of Counter on Blissey.. ;)

[Hot Mustid]

r u guys really stupid?

this is the perfect moveset

counter
seismic toss
softboiled
aromatherapy

[bneato]

Paralysis is one of the more impractical special conditions in GBA. 25% chance of it fully paralyzing them into not attacking.

You shouldn't make general statements like that until you fully understand the statistics of the paralyzation in Pokémon. Although it's 25% chance of fully paralyzing, that does not necessarily mean that only once in 4 turns, your enemy will be fully paralyzed. 25% is only an average of the population of "paralyzation". Meaning, I wouldn't be surprised if someone is paralyzed and is fully paralyzed 4 turns in a row. Sure, the "probability" of that occuring is low, but it is not impossible. It's all due to random chance (<- I got a 5 on the Statistics AP, i know what I'm talking about).

This doesn't apply to Blissey's move set, but also, on other pokemon maybe, you can combine paralysis with confuse ray or attract to increase the probability of the enemy not attacking. Paralysis is not so useless after all.

K.. done ranting

[Burninating_Torchic]

I realize that. That 25% kicks in for me almost every turn. Still, it is not worth risking when your choice is between paralysis and a Strong move with 75% accuracy that should ohko quite a bit, such as thunder and blizzard. Plus, those moves have a low chance of paralyzing/freezing respectively, I believe.

Mustid, what is that? That doesnt look good to me. What the heck even is aromatherapy?

[Masamune156]

You do realize the massive amounts of damage Counter can do when on Blissey, right?
Aromatherapy cures status conditions on your Pokemon.

Thunder (w/o Rain Dance), Blizzard, and moves of the like... To be blunt - Suck.

[Hot Mustid]

torchic, i can own any pokemon you can throw at me (except a very srtong machamp/ fighting) w/o trouble..

how can you say this doesnt look good?
btw aromatherapy is heal bell basically

[Burninating_Torchic]

and what is heal bell...?

Anyways, it does seem ok, especially if the blissey has Focus Band attached. My only suggestion is that it needs a Special Attack(as opposed to physical). Chansey/Blissey have very bad attack in addition to their bad defense, so two physical moves might not be such a good idea.

EDIT: Psychic. That is the special move to use. It counters the fighting weakness. Definately Psychic.

[Hot Mustid]

rofl torchic, u need to learn about the game a little more bud

counter and seismic toss do not relie on sp attack or attack stats fool

and u give it leftovers, not focus band. aromatherapy heals all special conditions on ur team (gets rid of the dreaded toxic)

but seriously... if u NEED a special attack then go with this

counter
seismic toss
softboiled
flamethrower/ ice beam

[Burninating_Torchic]

well, I know seismic toss does not rely on attack stats(it's the one that does dmg based on lvl, correct?) but it can NEVER get an ohko on anything with a higher level then like 30, even if you are lvl100. Pokemon would have over 100 HP by then, and you can bet you'll be facing lv100s if that's your level. And counter does rely on attack, it's a regular attack that does more damage if you....wait a second. *SMACKS SELF* I am thinking of Reversal. Sorry. Aromatherapy just doesn't seem to worth it to me. It's a good moveset, but not very typical. I would still go with a fighting counter.

And I do not need to learn more about the game. Battling and figuring out Uber moesets for every Pokemon is not my specialty, though. I beat the elite 4 with a completely random yet balanced team with only a single TM used throughout the entire team, and that was basically the last battle I did(save the battles on Resort Gorgeous for the money trick and battles used to train Pokemon). My path is a breeder, and my goal is just to get all 386 Pokemon as they become obtainable(currently only 282 are). I am not trying to fill all 14 boxes of my PC with superpowered uber lvl 100 Pokemon. I am just giving my opinion on a good blissey moveset, and it works.

So what if yours could beat any. You'd actually be surprised. The moveset you gave is disadvantageous in the same ways that it is advantegous. Why? You said it yourself. Counter and Seismic Toss don't rely on attack power. Blissey has the highest HP in the game, so 4 Seismic Toss from a lv100 Blissey can't knock out another lv100 Blissey(when raised properly, it will have over 400 HP). And Counter won't always work. Why? My Blissey moveset has 1 to 2 physical attacks. Counter will fail against any healing attacks as well as Toxic. And by the time you aromatherapy for my Toxic, I will be taking advantage of your low defense, because I even disagree with myself when I said I need both Thunder and Blizzard. Ice Beam OR Thunderbolt would be better, leaving room for a strong physical move that is affected by defense, probably a fighting type one(in fact, I have one in mind already).

In short, I would enjoy pitting our two movesets against eachother to see what would prevail. I have already came up with a strategy for my new moveset, which I am happy to share with you.

Ice Beam/Thunderbolt/Flamethrower/etc
Recover/some other HP healing move
Toxic
The fighting move(my idea: Focus Punch.)

Strategy: On turn one, I would use the special move to start wittling down the HP. Depending on how much damage that did, I may or may not do it for a second turn. Turn two/three, I use Toxic, to continue wittling down HP, especially if the opponent doesn't have aromatherapy(but you do). Then, when I feel the HP is whittled enough, I use Focus Punch. This is a huge risk, but I would be hoping for you to use Aromatherapy to heal Toxic while I use it, so I will not flinch. With the defense and weakness, that oughta KO you.

[Hot Mustid]

im not going to start criticising this horrible moveset of yours, i wont even start to explain how wrong you are about what you said...

just have fun with that crappy blissey who probably wont even have the right nature/ evs...

no more fighting about this please and trust me... my blissey is a much better moveset

but i will talk about seismic toss. who cares about ohkos with a blissey, the ONLY way u can ohko wit ha blissey is with counter, even if u blizzard a dragonite u wont kill it.

oh and btw... with the right evs a special sweeper will never be able to kill a blissey so while they chip away at ur hp (which keeps getting replenished with leftovers) u can ko them in 3-4 turns no matter what they are (other than ghost). trust me torchic, i dont mean to call you an idiot. You are just completely wrong here and i am sure poeple with agree with me

[Squirtle]

-[0t (V)uSt|d<--=']rofl torchic, u need to learn about the game a little more bud

counter and seismic toss do not relie on sp attack or attack stats fool

and u give it leftovers, not focus band. aromatherapy heals all special conditions on ur team (gets rid of the dreaded toxic)

but seriously... if u NEED a special attack then go with this

counter
seismic toss
softboiled
flamethrower/ ice beam

How do you get Aroma Therapy??

[Burninating_Torchic]

*sigh* Like I said, I don't really care. If you were paying attention, I am not trying to raise a Blissey. Mine is freaking lv36 with no TMs or Move Learners taught. I am just trying to contribute help to this guy. You can go on thinking your moveset is great and I can go on thinking your moveset sucks, and I can go on thinking mine is great and you can go on thinking mine sucks. Either way, there's nobody in the game who can even compete with a lv100 Blissey, so unless you are entering tourneys(in which case I'd drop softboiled for recover), moveset doesnt matter.

[Hot Mustid]

softboiled is the same thing as recover...

[Squirtle]

-[0t (V)uSt|d<--=']softboiled is the same thing as recover...

Ummmm...... Can Some one please tell me Where the heck you get Aroma Therapy???

[Burninating_Torchic]

look it up!!! You could have found out how to get it and 10 other moves in the time it took you to ask both those times. Aromatherapy is an egg move for Chansey. I leave it to you to figure out who in the Fairy Egg group learns Aromatherapy by level up, therefore can pass it on to a chansey.

[Nightmare]

Try this one:

Blissey w/ Leftovers:
Def +, Attack/Sp. Attack -

Softboiled (Recovers HP)
Thunder Wave (slows people down)
Seismic Toss (best damage you can do)
Counter (kills attackers DEAD)

EV in regular defense, and split the rest in HP and Special Defense

Kills everything DEAD (ask the Pokemon Center about this one)

-James

[Hot Mustid]

thunderwave is good, but you will find aromatherapy very useful

[IronChefBlackanese]

Actually, the best Blissey set is probably:

Nature: Bold
Ability: Serene Grace *IMPORTANT*

Ice Beam
Seismic Toss
Aromatherapy
Softboiled

If you prefer Paralysis over Freeze, switch Ice Beam with Thunderbolt. For you guys who don't know what Serene Grace does, go catch a Chansey or breed it to find out.

[Burninating_Torchic]

Serene Grace doubles the chance of an attack's secondary effect happening. I.e., 20% chance of Ice Beam Freezing unstead of 10%.

[delta_408]

I just started playing Diamond on the DS and I've been searching for a while but I haven't found out how to get Seismic toss on to my Blissey...

*Sorry if this has been asked before.

[afstandopleren]

Seismic Toss is a Move Tutor move from Emerald.

Sooo, no. You can't get Chansey's and Blissey's to learn Seismic Toss in other games.

[Pikamaster]

Here's the pokedex page for chansey for DP http://serebii.net/pokedex-dp/113.shtml
and here's the one for fr/lg/r/s/e http://serebii.net/pokedex-rs/113.shtml

Serebii is a great site. To find out what pokemon lear one of the egg moves, click on said egg move, and it will take you to a page that list all the pokemon that learn it through lv up, tm (I think), and egg. Oh, hot mustid. I agree, that's one of the best movesets, as long as the blissey has natural cure. If not, ice beam might be good. And one more thing. EV the blissey in defense. 252 evs. That way, with the wall of HP you have, not many attacks should kill you one hit.

[ultimatedra]

Dont be digging up 4 year old topics please.
Lock'd.