PDA

View Full Version : What is the power 9 in this game??


evil eyeball
09/12/2003, 09:37 AM
What is the Power 9 in this game??

I f you dont know what the power 9 are
they are

black lotus
mox ruby, pearl, jet, sapphire, emerals
time twister
time walk
ansestral recall


What would equiate to theese in pokemon??

ScythKing
09/12/2003, 09:42 AM
What is the Power 9 in this game??
I f you dont know what the power 9 are they are
black lotus
mox ruby, pearl, jet, sapphire, emerals
time twister
time walk
ansestral recall
What would equiate to theese in pokemon??
IMHO the following

Oak
Super Energy Removal
Item Finder
Computer Search
Plus Power
Lass
Misty's Wrath
DCE
Neo Genesis Cleffa

mysterioustrainer
09/12/2003, 09:53 AM
There really is no true answer mainly because of formats for the game. However ScythKing made a good description for the Unlimited format. A card is only as good as the deck it is in.

League Leader Terry
09/12/2003, 09:55 AM
Now, what he's talking about are the 9 more expensive cards in the game. What you gave him were probably the 9 best cards in the game. I'm not sure what the Power 9 for Pokemon would be, but Base Charizard is probably one of them

NoPoke
09/12/2003, 10:30 AM
This came up on the old pokegym.. some topic that discussed most valuable cards. Most of the really rare ones I'd never even heard of!

Kyfogre22
09/12/2003, 12:06 PM
DCE is great, but i wouldn't say power 9...

Tyranitar666
09/12/2003, 12:17 PM
Ok, lets get a view ideas going here.

For Unlimited, going by BEST and staples in every deck, we have...

Professor Oak
Computer Search
Item Finder
Lass
Gust Of Wind
Super Energy Removal
Energy Removal
Cleffa
Town Volunteers???

The last one iffy...those should be in a majority of ALL Unlimited decks. Yeah...ill be back later with better stuff as Im headed to a friends house -_-

Tails
09/12/2003, 12:26 PM
What about Bill? Not as powerful as it used to be, but still good.

Kyfogre22
09/12/2003, 12:27 PM
My picks:

Professor Oak
Computer Search
Energy Search
Energy Stadium (My picks... lol)
Energy Removal
Mr. Mime
Rainbow Energy
Town Volunteers

Michel
09/12/2003, 12:47 PM
I would say :
Slowking
Sneasel
Computer search
Item finder
Super energy removal
Gust of Wind
Cleffa
Prof Oak
Plus power
;)

Big Daddy Snorlax
09/12/2003, 12:50 PM
Remember to give some reasoning behind your picks or this is nothing more than a ..... :mad:

BDS

dkates
09/12/2003, 01:00 PM
Sneasel for Pure Broken Damage, Slowking for One-sided Trainer Denial, Super Energy Removal for Energy Disruption, Computer Search for Deck Searching, Item Finder for Trainer Renewal, Gust of Wind for Pokemon Disruption, Town Volunteers for Discard Rescue, Tyrogue for Smash Punch fever, and Cleffa for Hand-Changing.

Michel
09/12/2003, 01:22 PM
Agree with dkates :thumb:

Prof Oak for handchanging and SER for disruption.

Kyfogre22
09/12/2003, 01:28 PM
I disagree with saying sneasel is a power 9. Even though beat up has proved itself as one of the most formidable techniques in the TCG, i dont believe it is power 9.

As I have been MIA, can somone please inform me wats so good about slowking?

Orange Soda
09/12/2003, 01:37 PM
As I have been MIA, can somone please inform me wats so good about slowking?

4 Slowking on opponent's bench. You play a Trainer card. Flip. Heads! Flip. Heads! Flip. Heads! Flip. AUGH!

4 Slowking on your bench, none on opponent's. You play a Trainer card. No flips.

dkates
09/12/2003, 01:47 PM
Thought you would have known about Slowking -- it was Genesis. It and Sneasel were the only cards ever banned from Modified independently of their sets.

Captain Obviousx1
09/12/2003, 02:08 PM
Slowking is crazy from what I've heard. Once there's two or three out, it' should be just about over. Throw in a Chaos Gym in case they have some anti-power, and you should be good. I can see how Sneasel/Slowking came about. Anyway, what about the "rogue" 9 cards? There are so many overlooked cards that are crazy for the amount of play that they get...

meganium45
09/12/2003, 02:54 PM
Power 9 Cards of Pokemon (English Edition)

1st Edition Base Charizard
1st Edition Base Blastoise
1st Edition Shining Charizard
1st Edition Neo Genesis Lugia
1st Edition Neo Revelation Holofoil Ho-oh
Crystal Charizard - Skyridge
Crystal Lugia - Aquapolis
Crystal Ho-oh - Skyridge
Mewtwo EX - Ruby/Sapphire

These are 9 cards I will always trade for that are the most valuable of the english edition cards...the big 9...

There is, of course, the one card, the holy grail of all Pokemon collectors....

Pre-release Raichu

Yes, they do exist

If you include Japanese cards, the list get much more complicated, but much more straightforward (Shinings and Winner Promos)

Kyfogre22
09/12/2003, 04:03 PM
Well then if im right, one muk can ruin a Sloking deck's day... or an aerodactle if played early enough.
I can see why it was banned from modify, but sneasel... why sneasel?! just because hes powerful... and hes the base of my new deck which i think restricts me to unlimited... =\

Captain Obviousx1
09/12/2003, 04:29 PM
It can, but Chaos Gym helps against that...or you could just go incredibly rogue and run your own Aerodactyl after you get the Slowkings. The most feared of them all is Magby though...there's nothing to do but try to kill it. It really can't be avoided...

Nick15
09/12/2003, 04:55 PM
Actually Magic's Power Nine only refers to cards from Magic's earliest printing (err... the equivilant of Base-Fossil in Pokemon). And concerning value, Magic's Power Nine are valueable because they're extremely useful and broken in Magic (and people like using useful cards).

No new Magic cards would be part of the Power Nine because they're... well... too new. Which is why cards lke Tolerian Academy and Memory Jar aren't part of those Power Nines. Which also means cards like Sneasel, Slowking, or Mewtwo ex wouldn't be elegible for Pokemon's Power Nine.

Rarity also plays a part in what makes a Magic Power Nine, for as far as I'm aware, Magic's Power Nine are Rares. Likewise, cards like Plus Power and Town Volunteers wouldn't make the list because they're not rares.

Therefore, following the rules of oldness, rarity, and game play value (collector's value is based on demand, and useful cards are in demand more than unuseful cards)... Pokemon's Power Nine would be:

Computer Search
Hitmonchan
Electabuzz
Blastoise
Super Energy Removal
Lass
Scyther
Item Finder
Wigglytuff

:) Well... that's what I would pick at least. :D

dkates
09/12/2003, 04:56 PM
Sneasel got banned because it is freakishly overpowered. It can easily average 80 damage on turn 2, which is enough to Knock Out most Pokemon. Add to that that it had no Weakness and a free Retreat, and you had a Pokemon that could punish with impunity. Every deck had to either use it, counter it, or both. That's still true in Unlimited, which severely limits deck types. It's a real drag.

Son of Leod
09/12/2003, 06:59 PM
I'm not an avid Magic player, but I thought the point of the power nine was those cards used in combination that practically guaranteed a first turn win to whoever won the flip. On that basis, the I don't think anything in Pokemon compares. But... the cards that can end a Pokemon match very quickly:

Computer Search
Prof Oak
Item Finder
Energy removal
Super Energy removal
Gust of wind
Base Blastoise
Jungle Wigglytuff
DCE

League Leader Terry
09/12/2003, 08:45 PM
OK, what's DCE? I can never remember appreviations. :(

At my old League, only one guy had a Sneasel deck surprisingly, and it was just plain evil. Sneasel can do up to 140 damage on turn freakin' two WITHOUT playing a single Plus Power! Usually against a proper Sneasel deck, you're not going to be able to build up a proper defense OR offense before the body count begins.

yoshi1001
09/12/2003, 09:11 PM
Double Colorless Energy. Some people also abbreviate Super Energy Removal SER, which always confuses me.

-Steven Edward Reich

League Leader Terry
09/12/2003, 09:16 PM
Ah, I figured it would be something easy like that. :)

Kyfogre22
09/13/2003, 09:43 AM
My power 9 list:

Scyther
Mr. Mime
DCE
Oak
Item Finder
CPU search
Wiggly Jungle
Base Set Blastoise
Gust of Wind

Gh0st11
09/13/2003, 09:53 AM
I don't really think base Charizard is the most expensive card. Even if it's 1st edition, it only goes for around $30.

dkates
09/13/2003, 10:18 AM
I think the most expensive cards tend to be Shinings, but I could be wrong.

Kyfogre22
09/13/2003, 12:17 PM
base set charizard has more than material value; though it has sharply declined sience its $300 days, it is still a treasured card by those who own it (i have four...) Mistake cards are the really valuble ones, like the smiley char, or ancient mew spelling mistake...

Tahna
09/15/2003, 12:26 AM
As in brokenness (face it, the power 9 are some of the most broken cards in Magic's early history that did not recieve a ban)

-Computer Search (Get anything you want for just two measly cards)
-Item Finder (Do it all again for just two measly cards)
-Super Energy Removal (Destroy your opponents strategy for just two measly cards)
-Professor Oak (Get a fresh hand, usually just for two measly cards, and I know it's just an uncommon, but it's way too good)
(Are you sensing a pattern here?)
-Lass (trainer denial never failed me before)
-Ditto(FO) (it is just brutal, turn two hittings on anything that got in it's way and it could kick Sneasel's butt on turn 1)
-Clefable(JU) (Didn't you just love beating the snot out of your opponent's BBPs and Blaine's RK9 and still be immune to Muk?)
-Double Colorless Energy (another uncommon, but this one gave such a boost to every deck, you could retreat more, attack on turn one with almost any basic and it combined really well with Ditto and Scyther)
-Cleffa (the only newcomer, but this guy basically defined card drawing since Modified format)