Unreleased figures or fakes [Archive]

DJGigabyte

01/01/2010, 12:24 PM

To add to moms comment I think the pkmncollectors community has seen/bought at least 2-3 sets of these.
People were unsure at first because of the Snorlax at first.

I'll ask around the community for any more info.

Edit: Just asked in the community chat room and everyone has said the ones they have look and feel 100% legit and have no errors at all, however they all seem to think they are bootlegs.

PokePop

01/01/2010, 12:46 PM

Oh what basis, though?
It seems to me that if at least a test run was made, and then Pokemon dropped the TFG, those test run figures might find their way onto the market.

If someone was making bootlegs, wouldn't it make more sense for them to make copies of existing ones?

After all, it actually takes some fair amount of work to design these things from scratch.

DJGigabyte

01/01/2010, 01:39 PM

I'm not exactly sure on what basis.

I've seen alot of photos of them and if they are bootlegs they are some of the best I've ever seen of anything.

I would possibly have said they were test ones (the only weird part being that quite a few sets have hit the market) but I haven't seen them in person so I just asked some people who own them.

I'll post here if I get anymore info from people.

PokePop

01/01/2010, 02:22 PM

can you define what you mean by "bootleg"?

DJGigabyte

01/01/2010, 02:47 PM

can you define what you mean by "bootleg"?

A product which has been made by someone who isn't affiliated with Pokemon (or any officiail Pokemon related company) in any way.

Sorry, should have clarified.

PokePop

01/01/2010, 03:05 PM

that's what I thought, but wanted to be sure.

homeofmew

01/02/2010, 07:57 AM

if you notice the GAMA show snorlax has a black base and the other one has a white base.

I don't know if that means if it is fake or not, but since snorlax is the only pokemon to be shown in both pictures that is the only thing I can get off of it.

Fake figurines/ pokemon items in general are poorly made and the pokemon look defected, in this case the actual figure looks the same.

See what type of packaging you get and that should be a sign if it is fake or not.

EeveeLover

01/02/2010, 08:07 AM

The Black / White rings on the bases are interchangeable.

sgtdarryl

01/02/2010, 10:46 PM

If they are -fake-, someone went through alot of trouble to make them

DJGigabyte

01/03/2010, 03:13 AM

Just asked around the comm and the general price people seemed to be getting them for were around $20 for the set of 8.

The cheap price may have contributed to people thinking that they were bootleg since you would imagine official unreleased figures costing alot more.

Each one has a collection number of XX/42 on the base so at least they are consistant with each other for that.

PokePop

01/03/2010, 05:47 AM

I'll look them over when I receive them and see what I think.
It doesn't sound like their reasons for calling them bootleg are good.

Does anyone have an estimate for how many are being sold, at this point?

EeveeLover

01/03/2010, 07:51 AM

Watch out, BDS will be at your house looking for the Snorlax figure.

Volmise

01/03/2010, 09:35 PM

They are unfortunately, fakes. Chinese bootleggers/reject sellers stole the molds from the factory (at least, that's the general thing going around Pkmncollectors) and are making them then selling them in bundles on eBay. While they do seem to be made well, the painting is off in areas, and the the molds themselves are not consistent - the face shapes of two Pikachu figures a friend of mine bought from the seller are completely different.

It's a shame though, since I love the TFG and would have loved to see an official release of these.

PokePop

01/04/2010, 04:43 AM

On what basis, though, has it been determined that bootleggers stole the molds?
What is "going around" is not sufficient.
At least a claim to have spoken to someone in a position to know.
This seems more like speculation.

DJGigabyte

01/04/2010, 06:10 AM

Anyone got any contacts with anyone involved in the design how may be able to confirm/deny that the figures other than Snorlax were planned for release and went far enough in the design to have either molds or prototypes made?

Sounds like we won't be able to get an official answer without contacting someone like that.

Pokemon Trainer Mikko

01/07/2010, 10:33 AM

PokePop, any chance you'd be willing to part with them after you are finished examining them? I'd rather not support the Hong Kong sellers, despite my interest, and if you might want to part with them i'm interested. Although, I assume part of your examinations is for PCI?

PokePop

01/07/2010, 05:00 PM

Sorry, I got them because I wanted them.

yoyofsho16

01/08/2010, 01:32 PM

Well, we don't know much about "Set 3," but were Bayleef and Rayquaza and the others (not Snorlax) in Groundbreakers?

DJGigabyte

01/08/2010, 01:45 PM

Wasn't Groundbreakers an officially released set?
I think that if some of these were officially released this discussion would be moot.

Lawman

01/08/2010, 02:15 PM

I would hedge on them being real. There were figures in the process of being made. They had prototypes of this generation at Cons. It makes sense a few batches would be made before production was called off for w/e reason.

Keith

yoyofsho16

01/08/2010, 06:35 PM

Wasn't Groundbreakers an officially released set?
I think that if some of these were officially released this discussion would be moot.

No, Groundbreakers was the second set that was never released.

masterryanx

01/09/2010, 01:21 AM

No, Groundbreakers was the second set that was never released.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm fairly certain that some of Groundbreakers slipped out in stores. It was never officially released, but some figures still went to retail.

waynegg

01/09/2010, 08:07 AM

No, Groundbreakers was the second set that was never released.

We had them, at least the starter packs, in the stores here. Groundbreakers was officially released, just with a limited distribution.

yoyofsho16

01/09/2010, 07:07 PM

Oh, didn't know that. My bad.

Jran Sakarra

01/11/2010, 07:07 PM

We had them, at least the starter packs, in the stores here. Groundbreakers was officially released, just with a limited distribution.

Just the starter sets right?
If not then I have some hunting to do.

DJGigabyte

01/13/2010, 12:12 PM

I've uploaded a new picture to the gallery of another lot someone on the comm found which has some other new figures in it, including three more of the ones from Pops picture of the Set 3 preview. Gyarados, Seviper and Tyranitar.

http://pokegym.net/gallery/showimage.php?i=49669

Theres the image. Apparently they are for sale of ebay somewhere but I can't find the auction.

EeveeLover

01/13/2010, 12:24 PM

Pretty nice looking figures.

bullados

01/13/2010, 12:46 PM

I'd buy those just for the figures, forget the game! Those are some FREAKING SWEET models! Now if only PBR looked like that...

PokePop

01/13/2010, 04:14 PM

From informed opinions, these figures appear to be made from legitimate parts.
One may notice that one of the stickers is rotated off of the way it should have been applied, but other than that, an educated opinion would be that these are from a test or sample run.

meganium45

01/14/2010, 02:34 PM

Or someone grabbed the discarded pieces, put them together, and made some cool figures.

Bayleef, oh, so close to a good Pokemon.

Vince

ApachePrime

01/14/2010, 02:41 PM

PokePop

01/14/2010, 04:07 PM

The figures are not randomly put onto bases with random attack stickers.
The right figures are with the right stickers and on the bottom of the base, the set and promo info is all correct.
This is the right stuff, not pieces slopped together randomly from parts scavenged.

Pokemon Trainer Mikko

01/16/2010, 09:59 AM

I gotta throw this out there, the figures from the TFG were Gashapon in Japan. The spinning bases are new, but the figures glued on top of them were molded for a gashapon game in Japan. I have a Bulbasaur, but saw a half dozen or so others that were released as TFGs. I doubt these are fakes, but it's possible they are prototypes with those alredy produced figs glued onto test bases.

You're half right. The company producing the TFG molds was Kaiyodo, who are known for doing high quality Pokemon PVCs. The most common way in Japan to acquire one of these PVCs is from a bottletop. because in Japan they actually reward customers for buying things like soft drinks. They don't re-use molds actually, while they have some figures that were repeats for them. If they had done a Pokemon before, they'll sometimes to do something similiar but different. On a random note, does anyone know if the game ever launched in Japan? Because honestly, I could see THAT being the real death of the Trading Figure Game.

SD PokeMom

01/16/2010, 08:52 PM

i bought one of the sets of 12 figures; i'll be uploading pictures to the gallery.

they all look great, except the golbat looks like one of the wings was pushed backwards before the glue dried :( oh well...

'mom

SD PokeMom

01/16/2010, 10:39 PM

Here's a picture on the go-Pokemon site from the GAMA show:

http://go-pokemon.com/tcg/common/img/articles/big/gama1.jpg

It shows one of these figures among the "upcoming set 3" figures, the Snorlax.

The article is no longer accessible, but the picture is.with the site update, that link no longer works :(

'mom

SD PokeMom

01/17/2010, 09:40 PM

images are uploaded to the 'gym gallery: http://pokegym.net/gallery/browseimages.php?c=145&userid=7

there are several views of each of the 12 figures, plus a shot of the base info and a group shot.

'mom

DJGigabyte

01/18/2010, 05:16 AM

Thanks for the pics mom!

Nice to see that these remain consistant with the XX/42 numbering system that the others had.
Gives them more chance of being real than if they didn't.

EeveeLover

01/18/2010, 06:21 AM

I would just love to find the Flareon Figure.

heerosferret

01/23/2010, 01:48 PM

just clarifying the PKMNcollector's position on bootlegs! the sellers who have these sets are from hong kong, which while every HK seller doesn't produce fake merch only, a large majority pump out very awful bootleg figures ( http://community.livejournal.com/hells_pokemart/ ). it's just best to be wary buying from china, sadly :( but sometimes it turns out great, like...

with these figures! so far our community's bought a few of every set, and whereas HK sellers are famous for sending you something completely different from the photo, these have apparently been great. on top of that, the attacks/etc on the bases are legitimate.

so are they bootlegs, or stock that began getting produced before receiving the axe? honestly we don't know. for now we're calling them "unofficial" just since they never got an official release. some members think they are bootlegs and others think they are 100% the real deal. but some definitely ARE a bit off... paintjobs aren't AS nice... while others look 100% legit. so who can be sure? unless a POP official told us.

anyway, here's some pics from the set i have coming in soon...
http://sunyshore.com/scrap/unreleasedtfg2.jpg
http://sunyshore.com/scrap/unreleasedtfg3.jpg
http://sunyshore.com/scrap/unreleasedtfg4.jpg
http://sunyshore.com/scrap/unreleasedtfg5.jpg

hope that helps!

PokePop

01/23/2010, 03:06 PM

Nice!
You'll never get a TPCi employee to make any kind of comment on these on the record, though.
They just couldn't.

yoyofsho16

01/26/2010, 08:07 PM

Danggg that Raikou looks INTENSE.

philipliva

02/03/2010, 09:55 AM

Hi everyone! I am new here :) I have bought a set of those, and I have to say that they are stunning :)
One thing I noticed is that they are exact copies of the original.
1)They have the correct numerical order, that they would have if the set ever got released.
2)The Manaphy Darkrai and new Pikachu figure also has the correct black star promo number( 06, 07, 08) With 04 Being Dialga and 05 Palkia, the two promo of Groundbreakers.
3)They introduce two new special condition just like in every set, though I am not certain which two. ( the first set had Paralyzed and Poisoned, Second set had Asleep and either Burned, Confused or Frozen, and the remaining two are new to this third "unofficial" set.
4)The sculptors written on the bottom sticker of the figure are the ones that made the first set(though they could have just copied the info) but the figures really look like their style.
5)All the figures shown in the promo picture of set 3

I liked this game a lot, especially since Nintendo took the TCG away from Wizard all these years back. I cannot afford the rotation of the game, and really like participating in tournaments... and I really like pokemon, so I got fond of this game really quick, and I have done some digging about it as you can see :lol:

I can take high res photos of the figures I have if you want me too :)

Pokemon Trainer Mikko

02/03/2010, 11:12 PM

Please do, i'd like to see high quality photos!

philipliva

02/04/2010, 08:33 AM

http://img682.imageshack.us/i/20100204009.jpg/ <-Gyarados
http://img191.imageshack.us/i/20100204008.jpg/ <- Golbat
http://img688.imageshack.us/i/20100204007.jpg/ <- Mawile
http://img215.imageshack.us/i/20100204006.jpg/ <- Darkrai
http://img42.imageshack.us/i/20100204005.jpg/ <- Raikou
http://img691.imageshack.us/i/20100204004.jpg/ <- Suicune
http://img22.imageshack.us/i/20100204003.jpg/ <- Flareon
http://img189.imageshack.us/i/20100204002.jpg/ <- Haunter

If anyone need more tell me, I have 26(different) of these figs

tee_bird

02/08/2010, 04:03 PM

Those figures are absolutely gorgeous. I've been contemplating buying a set once I get money for the Lt. Surge TFG. Hopefully they're still being made by the time that happens.

PokePop

02/08/2010, 04:30 PM

Those figures are absolutely gorgeous. I've been contemplating buying a set once I get money for the Lt. Surge TFG. Hopefully they're still being made by the time that happens.

They're not "still being made".
They're selling off a stash of a pre-production run, it appears.
Once they run out, that's it.

tee_bird

02/08/2010, 10:05 PM

They're not "still being made".
They're selling off a stash of a pre-production run, it appears.
Once they run out, that's it.
Ah, the thread stated people were unsure whether they were booties or pre-production figures. Thanks for the information, though.

One way or another, I hope to eventually find a Surge for my collection. :)

waynegg

02/09/2010, 04:26 AM

If these are in fact production samples as it seems, does anybody have any idea of the potential value from a collection standpoint? How much do you think each of these figures will go for singularly if their existence is really that scarce?

PokePop

02/09/2010, 04:54 AM

Remember, its both supply AND demand.

Not a lot of people are looking to get these.

waynegg

02/09/2010, 05:31 AM

Remember, its both supply AND demand.

Not a lot of people are looking to get these.

I've been approached by several people who are interested in particular figures and don't want to buy the whole shooting match. Haven't you?

Then there are those who don't appreciate how potentially limited these are and are planning on picking them up at a later date. I think they will find them to be as you said, no longer available then. Then the demand for them should increase, don't you think? Especially on say the Rayquaza and a handful of others.

philipliva

02/09/2010, 06:51 AM

There might be another batch cause some figures never appeared. Not even once! But yes, some of them are gonna get really expensive if the demand increase and they are trully pre-production products!

The set 3 List is

1 Aipom
2 Aron
3 Bayleef
4 Bellsprout
5 Charmander
6 Corphish
7 Croconaw
8 Diglett
9 Drowzee
10 Entei
11 Executte
12 Flareon
13 Golbat
14 Goldeen
15 Gyarados
16 Haunter
17 Heracross
18 Machamp
19 Magnemite
20 ????????
21 Mawile
22 ????????
23 ????????
24 Nuzleaf
25 Pinsir
26 ????????
27 Raikou
28 Rayquaza
29 Seviper
30 ????????
31 Snorlax
32 Suicune
33 Taillow
34 Tentacruel
35 Tropius
36 Tyranitar
37 ?????????
38 ?????????
39 Erika
40 Lt Surge
41 Emerald
42 Yellow

By the end of the week the only ones I wont have are Erika and Heracross. I tried narrowing down the ???? but they are so many (exclude the 4th Gen) so I gave up!

EDIT: I forgot to mention the 3 promo of the set. A new Pikachu, Manaphy and Darkrai. And the newly introduced effects for this set are Freeze and Burn plus a new attack type, that is connected with the attacks that allow you to attack first in the DS games eg extremspeed(Rayquaza) or Quick Attack(Taillow)

Personally I find them amazing, and it's the only non-official product I d ever suggest anyone to buy...

ryanvergel

02/10/2010, 04:23 PM

I've been approached by several people who are interested in particular figures and don't want to buy the whole shooting match. Haven't you?

Then there are those who don't appreciate how potentially limited these are and are planning on picking them up at a later date. I think they will find them to be as you said, no longer available then. Then the demand for them should increase, don't you think? Especially on say the Rayquaza and a handful of others.

No kidding- after seeing one of my favorite pokemon, haunter, im thinking of arranging myself a little birthday present.

Jran Sakarra

02/11/2010, 09:13 PM

Wait whta have I missed?
Are these rael?
Where are theY?

PokePop

02/12/2010, 04:02 AM

Wait whta have I missed?
Are these rael?
Where are theY?

Read the topic.
What is not answered in the topic?

waynegg

02/12/2010, 10:41 PM

I found Pop's GAMA picture and posted it here (http://pokegym.net/gallery/showimage.php?i=49906&c=145). Has anybody found out what this set was to be called yet?

philipliva

02/13/2010, 11:36 AM

What I find really weird is how come Set 3 got out and not set 2 which had several cases produced :S

kyroid

02/13/2010, 01:42 PM

I got the Entai one, I checked them over and there Real.
The entai is awesome

waynegg

02/14/2010, 10:05 AM

What I find really weird is how come Set 3 got out and not set 2 which had several cases produced :S

I'm sure that after the Chinese New Year celebrations end (on the 20th) we'll start seeing more new figures and some of these I would speculate will contain the Groundbreakers figures.

Jran Sakarra

02/16/2010, 12:12 AM

Read the topic.
What is not answered in the topic?

Ya why I can never seen to get a straight answer from MODs most the time.

Wow I can not believe they made there way onto the market.
I gotta ge a set to complete these.
I wish they kept the tfg.

tee_bird

02/16/2010, 09:44 PM

Then there are those who don't appreciate how potentially limited these are and are planning on picking them up at a later date. I think they will find them to be as you said, no longer available then.

I took what you (and the rest of the people in this thread) said into consideration, and now have a Lt. Surge on his way. I can post pictures when he gets here if people are interested.

Jran Sakarra

02/19/2010, 02:13 PM

Is $69 a good deal for the whole set?
I ended up in a 2nd chance offer.
$22 shipping is what it will cost so...
$91 in all

waynegg

02/19/2010, 08:57 PM

Is $69 a good deal for the whole set?
I ended up in a 2nd chance offer.
$22 shipping is what it will cost so...
$91 in all

You mean for the auction for 37 of them where you get 3 Next Quest figures, 3 new promos, and 31/42 of the third set? Yeah- that's a decent price.

Jran Sakarra

02/19/2010, 09:12 PM

You mean for the auction for 37 of them where you get 3 Next Quest figures, 3 new promos, and 31/42 of the third set? Yeah- that's a decent price.

What are the missing ones?

waynegg

02/21/2010, 09:44 AM

The ones not in the auction of 37 are:

12 Flareon
14 Goldeen
17 Heracross
19 Magnemite
20 ????????
22 ????????
23 ????????
26 ????????
27 Raikou
30 ????????
32 Suicune
37 ?????????
38 ?????????
39 Erika

And you are getting these next quest figures:
Red
Brendan
Absol
Kyogre
Marreep
Tauros

Novus

02/21/2010, 06:15 PM

So I recently have started following this game (Never knew of it's existence before) and I am seriously interested in obtaining some of these some of these sets, as figures, and especially to play/try out this game.

It's a shame that PUSA discontinued this... I only recently realized that :frown:

I could not find these sets anywhere (I live in Canada) and I was considering purchasing some from Ebay. Although I'm still not sure about buying from a China/HK based seller and expecting a legit product... :lol:

Anyone purchased from this seller before? Are their figures legit? Heres an example auction of theirs... http://cgi.ebay.ca/12-Pokemon-Nintendo-Trading-Figure-Game-figures-H1526_W0QQitemZ160406810264QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_T oys_Games_TV_Film_Character_Toys_ET?hash=item2558f dae98

DJGigabyte

02/24/2010, 04:34 AM

The set 3 List is

1 Aipom
2 Aron
3 Bayleef
4 Bellsprout
5 Charmander
6 Corphish
7 Croconaw
8 Diglett
9 Drowzee
10 Entei
11 Executte
12 Flareon
13 Golbat
14 Goldeen
15 Gyarados
16 Haunter
17 Heracross
18 Machamp
19 Magnemite
20 ????????
21 Mawile
22 ????????
23 ????????
24 Nuzleaf
25 Pinsir
26 ????????
27 Raikou
28 Rayquaza
29 Seviper
30 ????????
31 Snorlax
32 Suicune
33 Taillow
34 Tentacruel
35 Tropius
36 Tyranitar
37 ?????????
38 ?????????
39 Erika
40 Lt Surge
41 Emerald
42 Yellow

By the end of the week the only ones I wont have are Erika and Heracross. I tried narrowing down the ???? but they are so many (exclude the 4th Gen) so I gave up!

Since the set has Bayleef and Croconaw I'd say there's a good chance of 26 being Quilava.

waynegg

03/05/2010, 03:34 PM

I hope that 30 is Sneasel and 37 or 38 Weavile:)

abyssblue

04/27/2010, 07:08 AM

Number 26 is Plusle. I got a Plusle from a toy shop in our place together with some of the figures. I'm hoping to stumble upon Flareon and Lt. Surge someday. :D

EDIT:
And I have a Mew too and it falls under 22.

NoPoke

04/27/2010, 09:24 AM

Lawman

04/27/2010, 11:23 AM

^Meowths are impossible to fix. I have re-glued a few others back to their bases though.

Keith

kyroid

04/28/2010, 01:25 AM

I have a unbroken meowth. Btw Ho-oh is so hard to fix

abyssblue

04/28/2010, 04:28 AM

Number 20 is Marshtomp. I saw one in one of the sets in auction in ebay. Here is the photo. (http://i626.photobucket.com/albums/tt344/abyssblye/ebayset.jpg)

EDIT:
Just made another discovery. Minun is number 24. I read Plusle's ability and it says "Plusle's attacks do 30 more damage for each Minun next to Plusle."

EDIT2:
Number 23 I mean. :P

DJGigabyte

05/06/2010, 04:34 AM

Suicune is so delicate :( It arrives broken :( The paintwork on this Suicune isn't well aligned either the white diamonds are off by at least a milimeter. It still looks very good but I've yet to succeed with repairing broken figures. (Meowths all seem to have broken legs )

I read somewhere (I think pkmncollectors) that meowth had two slightly different versions released, the first version with the very easily breakable leg (worth more now due to smaller run and the fact that people kept breaking them) and a seocnd version which changed the pose slightly and made the legs less likely to snap off.

I've only read, not seen, so if anyone can confirm that would be great.

kwisdumb

05/07/2010, 03:46 AM

Not sure if anyone is still arguing the point, but...

From what I know of miniature games, I'm fairly certain that you wouldn't be able to produce fakes at such a quality/quantity, or even very cheaply. I'm no expert, but I'd bet this was a test print or something.

Archaic

06/04/2010, 04:19 PM

Judging by the numbers of these still found on ebay, I think it was a bit more than a test print. The supplies of some figures do seem to be running dry however. I've looked high and low for Erika (the only one I really want for collectable value, unless there's a Bulbasaur or Gardevoir found out there somewhere too), and I haven't seen her available on any of the auctions since I found out she existed (other than someone on the LJ who wanted to sell her alone for $20 US).

It really is a shame that these games were never really supported. It'd be amazing to see the fan community step in like players of the Star Wars and Star Trek CCG's did, but I guess the games never got popular enough to get the grassroots action going there.

waynegg

06/05/2010, 01:24 AM

...(the only one I really want for collectable value, unless there's a Bulbasaur or Gardevoir found out there somewhere too)...

Not sure about Gardevoir, but there is a Kirlia.

abyssblue

06/05/2010, 02:50 AM

Not sure about Gardevoir, but there is a Kirlia.

There's a Kirlia TFG?

Varna

06/05/2010, 04:57 AM

Not sure about Gardevoir, but there is a Kirlia.

What? Got any pictures of this?

Archaic

06/05/2010, 05:06 AM

I've never seen any images of it before, if it does exist. Which set is it meant to be from, Groundbreakers or the unnamed 3rd set?

waynegg

06/06/2010, 02:22 AM

It would have to be a promo, I saw a picture of one on another site. It has the same sculpt as the chess pieces like this (http://cgi.ebay.com/Kaiyodo-Tomy-Pokemon-281-Kirlia-Figure-Chess-Part-2-NEW-/170492203854?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27b220934e).

Either that or someone took the figure off the chess piece and glued it to a spinner base.

Archaic

06/07/2010, 08:49 PM

It might not necessarily be a promo. If it's the same sculpt as the chess piece, I'm inclined to think more that they just used the same sculpt over. When did the chess pieces come out? It's possible many of them were just the moulds from the unreleased TFG set, which were repurposed.

abyssblue

06/08/2010, 02:41 AM

I think that the Kirlia chess figure and the Kirlia TFG he saw was of the same sculpt. I've seen chess figures in ebay that used figures from the TFG like Tauros and Charmander and even figures from Kaiyodo bottlecaps like Swellow and Mew. I even saw trainer figures in the chess pieces. I guess it's just the opposite case here where the chess figures are mounted on a TFG base.

waynegg

06/08/2010, 01:20 PM

Archaic

06/17/2010, 01:42 AM

I don't suppose they had a picture of the base? It'd be pretty obvious if it was a promo.

Also...how is it that this game never took off when Penny Arcade did a comic on it?

waynegg

07/03/2010, 01:51 PM

Does anyone know what the last 3 from the set are? They are numbers 30, 37, and 38. Any help would be appreciated!

abyssblue

07/05/2010, 05:32 PM

I found number 38!!!

It's Whismur (http://i626.photobucket.com/albums/tt344/abyssblye/Pokemon%20TFG/whismur.jpg)! Here's the base (http://i626.photobucket.com/albums/tt344/abyssblye/Pokemon%20TFG/whismurback.jpg) if you want to see it. :)

philipliva

07/07/2010, 05:57 AM

WoW! I love how they done the tears on Whismur! I want it! :P

UPDATED :

The set 3 List is

1 Aipom
2 Aron
3 Bayleef
4 Bellsprout
5 Charmander
6 Corphish
7 Croconaw
8 Diglett
9 Drowzee
10 Entei
11 Executte
12 Flareon
13 Golbat
14 Goldeen
15 Gyarados
16 Haunter
17 Heracross
18 Machamp
19 Magnemite
20 Marshtomp
21 Mawile
22 Mew
23 Minun
24 Nuzleaf
25 Pinsir
26 Plusle
27 Raikou
28 Rayquaza
29 Seviper
30 ????????
31 Snorlax
32 Suicune
33 Taillow
34 Tentacruel
35 Tropius
36 Tyranitar
37 ?????????
38 Whismur
39 Erika
40 Lt Surge
41 Emerald
42 Yellow

P.S Abyssblue, is there any way you can find another mew, wishmur, Minun or Plusle? And make a trade , or you can sell them to me? :) (these 4 with the 2 ??? are the only ones I dont have)

abyssblue

07/10/2010, 06:11 PM

I know this thread is about the 3rd unreleased set of TFG but I recently got hold of these:

http://i626.photobucket.com/albums/tt344/abyssblye/Pokemon%20TFG/unreleasedgroundbreakers.jpg

I'm not really sure if they're official but they really look like the real deal to me. :D

Archaic

07/11/2010, 07:19 AM

Lacking the attack doughnut, so potential fakes. Got photos of the bottoms for us at all, or are those blank?

abyssblue

07/11/2010, 08:27 AM

I actually just got the figures without bases so I had to remove the bases from my extra figures to give them bases. The quality of the figures matches the ones in the 1st and 3rd set.

Archaic

07/12/2010, 05:18 AM

If you got them without bases, then they're not figures for the trading figure game, they're just regular figures.

bulbasnore

07/12/2010, 09:20 PM

Just looking at our TFG section in the Gallery. :frown: I got rid of the 'members category' setting on the main category.
http://pokegym.net/gallery/browseimages.php?c=145

Any interest here in uploading pix if we create a section for this set (Groundbreakers?)?
What is the name of the released and unreleased sets after nextquest?
Anyone want to suggest a suggested standard format for the photos?

WoW! I love how they done the tears on Whismur! I want it! :P

UPDATED :

The set 3 List is

1 Aipom
2 Aron
3 Bayleef
4 Bellsprout
5 Charmander
6 Corphish
7 Croconaw
8 Diglett
9 Drowzee
10 Entei
11 Executte
12 Flareon
13 Golbat
14 Goldeen
15 Gyarados
16 Haunter
17 Heracross
18 Machamp
19 Magnemite
20 Marshtomp
21 Mawile
22 Mew
23 Minun
24 Nuzleaf
25 Pinsir
26 Plusle
27 Raikou
28 Rayquaza
29 Seviper
30 ????????
31 Snorlax
32 Suicune
33 Taillow
34 Tentacruel
35 Tropius
36 Tyranitar
37 ?????????
38 Whismur
39 Erika
40 Lt Surge
41 Emerald
42 Yellow

waynegg

07/13/2010, 10:11 PM

Just looking at our TFG section in the Gallery. :frown: I got rid of the 'members category' setting on the main category.
http://pokegym.net/gallery/browseimages.php?c=145 (http://pokegym.net/forums/../gallery/browseimages.php?c=145)

Any interest here in uploading pix if we create a section for this set (Groundbreakers?)?
What is the name of the released and unreleased sets after nextquest?
Anyone want to suggest a suggested standard format for the photos?

After Next Quest there is Groundbreakers which is almost impossible to find any figures from. We don't know the name of the 3rd, unreleased, set. I spoke with Mr. Liesik the other day and he let me know it was confidential and that he unfortunately couldn't divulge the name.

I would be more than happy to upload pictures of the sets. Next Quest is complete. Grounbbreakers we only have the 8 figures which came with the starter sets- Latios, Latias, Hariyama, Green, Geodude, Mightyena, Raticat, and Landon. From the third set, we have 37 of the 42 figures- missing Plusle, Minun, Whismur, #30, and #37. We're also missing 3 promos- Dialga, Palkia, and ref. With Darkrai we have one with the standard pose and another that I think is an example of a test figure as the pose is completely different.

As to format for the pictures, what would work for the gym? Would the standards from either Event or Fan Art work? Photos of this size would probably be best so viewers can see the meticulous attention to detail paid in the sculpting process. As far as substance, the photos should have a solid, neutral background with nothing in the photo aside from the single figure. They should also be cropped tight so there isn't a lot of dead space.

I know this thread is about the 3rd unreleased set of TFG but I recently got hold of these:

http://i626.photobucket.com/albums/tt344/abyssblye/Pokemon%20TFG/unreleasedgroundbreakers.jpg

I'm not really sure if they're official but they really look like the real deal to me. :D
Those are prototypes from Groundbreakers, hence no stickers. They look like the ones which were slated for the set and are probably legit.

waynegg

08/16/2010, 02:32 PM

Has anybody found out what the last 2 figures for this set are yet?

waynegg

09/20/2010, 09:56 PM

A little new information- the product itself appears to be real, however I now believe they weren't assembled in the factory. I've received 2 different Mew figures and one of them was broken. With careful disassembly (so I could repair the broken one) I found that neither were mounted properly.

There is a hole in the crystal that Mew is hugging where the left foot is supposed to be mounted. Being mounted properly makes it so that the piece is balanced for spinning and so that it looks like Mew if floating between the crystals. It also makes the piece more fragile than any before it and is likely why the bootleggers glued it to the crystal- so it wouldn't be broken.

Just thought I would share this because it is the first real evidence of these not being "official product" even if they do seem to be made with official parts.

JandPDS

09/25/2010, 09:46 AM

waynegg

09/25/2010, 10:12 AM

The cards for Groundbreakers weren't seen as they didn't come in the starter sets. The third set never came to the stores, so none there either. I have extras of most of the cards and I'll post them in my trade thread so you can check them out. Here's a list of the Trainers that came in Next Quest:

1 Full Heal
2 Long Throw
3 Max Revivie
4 Scoop Up
5 Swap Spots
6 Switch
7 X Accuracy
8 X Attack

BJJ763

09/26/2010, 02:27 PM

Anyone have any extra Tading Fidure game trainre cards, thoes are the only ones I am interested in. I have a few but would like to collect them all. I am willing to trade real trading card game cards for them.

Then please post a trading topic in the Trading Post.

I have extras of most of the cards and I'll post them in my trade thread so you can check them out.

Thank you!

Let's keep this forum to what it is for and the Trading Post for what it is for.

waynegg

09/26/2010, 04:48 PM

Thank you!

Let's keep this forum to what it is for and the Trading Post for what it is for.

Yep. That's what I was trying to do. I really don't want to see this closed as it's the only place that I may be able to find info on where some of these figures pop up at and also the only place to possibly find out what the last 2 figures from the 3rd set are.

psyman

10/21/2010, 03:22 PM

So i devoutly collected the TFG but fell out for a while and i come back to this ... amazing. the only problem is where to find them. i've gotten pretty much all the ones still available but there are 10 or so that seem to have run dry

12 Flareon
14 Goldeen
19 Magnemite
20 Marshtomp
22 Mew
23 Minun
26 Plusle
27 Raikou
30 ????????
37 ?????????
38 Whismur
39 Erika

I'm searching everywhere to try and find them and i have some leads on erika and goldeen but the others are no where to be found. where did you all find the ones you got if you got these? and where might you suggest checking?

waynegg

10/21/2010, 09:53 PM

I found them all on ebay with the exception of Mew which I traded with a friend in the Philippines to get and Plusle, Minun, and Whismur which I don't have. No one to my knowledge has ever seen a Minun. We just got that information off of one of Plusle's attacks.

Snowball21

10/28/2010, 10:14 AM

I can tell you #30 is Smoochum.

psyman

10/28/2010, 01:23 PM

Smoochum was in the groundbreakers set so its not likely it would be in the unamed third set. but i'd love to get my hands on one of those too if you know where they are available

---------- Post added 10/29/2010 at 02:51 AM ----------

don't know if this will be helpful at all but i found one of the wholesalers that is offering the third wave figures individually (what ones they have left that is) there are a bunch of the ones that are only available in the large ebay auctions and the goldeen which is fairly allusive now. the prices are pretty steep and shipping is expensive (considering the prices are designed for bulk buys) but i supposed if you wanted to stock up on a bunch of one it could be useful. i don't think there is a minimum to buy so in theory you could go in and buy one figure but it looks like it would run you about $35 after shipping. the site is at:
http://www.dinodirect.com/pokemon/