hmm new bdif?

[a11ornuthin]

alright this is my first deck built entirely by myself without my friend helping. so lemme know what should be added removed and anything else. thanks!

T/s/s
3Bebe's
2 team g mars
2pokemon collector
1palmers contribution
1cynthias feelings
2felicity's
2 pokemon communications
1petm
1rival
2professor oaks visit
2 energy gain (maybe bumped to 3)
1 sp radar
1 champions room
1 volkners philosophy
1 great ball
1 level max
1 premier ball
1 expert belt
1 lookers investigation
27 t/s/s

pokemon
2 claydol ge
2 baltoy ge
1-1 blaziken fb x
1-1 charizard g x
1-1 infernape 4 x
1-1 garchomp c x
2-2-1/1 typhlosion (1 prime 1 from mt i think)
1 arcanine g

13 fire
1 dce

main idea? get out whoever yah can lol. nah alright get out blaze or infernape and setup heavy hitting gar char and typhlosion for later.

[Rikko145]

This deck is inconsistent and all over the place. Take out the Arcananine G and Typhlosion lines so you can strengthen the others, except Charizard G, et it be 1-1, and let Infernape be 2-1. This way you can add 2 Crobat G. As far as T/S/S go, you need to COMPLETELY rebuild. Your main SP Engine trainer line should look like this:

4 Cyrus's Conspiracy
4 Energy Gain
4 SP Radar
4 Poketurn
3-4 Power Spray
3 Roseanne's Research
2-3 Bebe's Search

You will also need to up to 4 DCE so that you can pull of fast Dragon Rush's.

[a11ornuthin]

yeah looking back my trainers are all over the place...so by dropping the typhlosion and arcanine i drop my pokemon count even lower....and i have a second infernape...now i need the crobat G and the trainers. thanks for the tip!

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what do you say i put in instead of the typrime set?

[Rikko145]

yeah looking back my trainers are all over the place...so by dropping the typhlosion and arcanine i drop my pokemon count even lower....and i have a second infernape...now i need the crobat G and the trainers. thanks for the tip!

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what do you say i put in instead of the typrime set?

This would also make Blaze FB and Chomp C 2-2 Lines. And you may also consider dropping the 2-2 Claydol for 2-2 Ninetales HGSS, but that's just on personal preferance.

[a11ornuthin]

alright i have 2 fb X coming in and got second chomp today now i need trainers

ninetails you have to discard claydol you still keep the cards in your deck so you can search for them later.

[Rikko145]

alright i have 2 fb X coming in and got second chomp today now i need trainers

ninetails you have to discard claydol you still keep the cards in your deck so you can search for them later.

True, but if you have 5 or more in your hand, then you will draw 3 or less, depending on how many you can afford to give up. With Ninetales you consistently draw 3.

[a11ornuthin]

true BUT you must discard a fire energy...most of the time that fire could be used for attacking or the really rare case where your hands huge and dont need an energy.

[Rikko145]

true BUT you must discard a fire energy...most of the time that fire could be used for attacking or the really rare case where your hands huge and dont need an energy.

Then put in 3 Aaron's Collection. They'll let you recover SP's and Energies.

[evil psyduck]

a11ornuthin and Rikko145- What you both posted is to close to trading in the wromg forum. Next time don't even mention it and take it straight to the trade forum or pm.

[MarioMaker]

More double colorless
I haven't played in a few months so I don't know what I'm talking about

[LegendaryLugia]

4 Cyrus's Conspiracy
4 Energy Gain
4 SP Radar
4 Poketurn
3-4 Power Spray
3 Roseanne's Research
2-3 Bebe's Searchs

IMO, the numbers should look more like this:

4 Cyrus's
3/4 Energy Gain (I'd run 3 when running 4 DCE)
4 PokeTurn
3/4 Power Spray
4 Rosy's
2 SP Radar
1 Lux Ball
1 Premier Ball
1 Bebe's
1 WP
1 Aaron's
1 NM

That's kind of your SP Engine/Search/Recovery skeleton. From there, you can add other stuff (Expert Belt, Cynthia's, PokeGear etc.) to suit your playstyle.

Do not run Ninetales. Run 2-1 Uxie Lv.X, trust me, it's superior. 2-2 Claydol isn't that great in SP since you have to increase Stage 1 search and Cyrus's grabs you pretty much everything you need. It's not worth the effort. I certainly wouldn't run Ninetales as you should only be running 4-5 Fire energy anyway (6 max). It wouldn't be efficient, would be inferior to Claydol if you had to run a 1-1 Stage 1 pokemon draw line and would mean that you would have to constantly recover fire back into deck/hand. No, stick to 2-1 Uxie Lv.X, with a 1-1 Claydol if you find it helps.

You should probably also try sticking to either Infernape/Chomp, Blaziken/Chomp or Blaziken/Infernape. Chomp gives you sniping, disruptive and healing capabilities, Blaziken gives you a disruptive ability with Luring Flame and brute strength, Infernape allows you to grab cheap KOs via Intimidating Roar, gives you some spreading possibilities (setting up KOs for later in the game) and a high-damage attack (albeit a bit more of an energy-hogging attack). Since you have the Blazikens and Chomps coming, it's pretty obvious you should run Blaze/Chomp. So, I'd drop the Arcanine, Typhlosion, Charizard and Infernape lines and run 2-2 Chomp and 2-2 Blaze. 3-1 Blaze if you prefer. I'd run some other SP techs as well: Ambipom G and Crobat G spring to mind. I'd also take out the Claydol line for 2-1 Uxie Lv.X.

For the energy, you need Call. And when I say need, I mean NEED. You should probably run 4 Call, 4 DCE (Garchomp just loves it so much) and 4-5 Fire. I suppose you could run 1 Psychic in case you ever need to attack with Azelf or Crobat G, but I probably wouldn't recommend it. However, if you have a Toxicroak G Promo, a Psychic Energy would be quite appropriate. For now, though, I'll assume that you don't have any Croak G Promo.

So, with all that in mind, here's what I'd do:

2-2 Blaziken FB Lv.X
2-2 Garchomp C Lv.X
2-1 Uxie Lv.X
1 Chatot MD
1 Unown G
1 Azelf LA
2 Crobat G
1 Ambipom G
1 Bronzong G
1 Lucario GL
= 15 Pokemon

4 Cyrus's
4 PokeTurn
3/4 Energy Gain
4/3 Power Spray
2 SP Radar
4 Rosy's
1 Lux Ball
1 Bebe's
1 Premier Ball
1 WP
1 Aaron's
1 NM
2 PokeGear
3 Expert Belt
= 32 Trainers

4 Call Energy
4 DCE
5 Fire Energy
= 13 Energy

(Power Spray and Energy Gain count are interchangeable depending on playstyle)

This is just off the top of my head, hope this helps,

LL :)

[a11ornuthin]

alrighty i went to midwest regionals in wisconson dells and this is what i ran

2-2 of pokemon i first posted except charizard g x and i dropped the typhlosion line

trainers i went
3 e gain
4 sp radar
2 lvl max
1 premier ball
2 communications

supp
3 bebes
2 felicitys
1 pokegear
3 fisherman
2 tgm
2 collectors
1 rosy
1 cyrus's consp

4 sp energy
3 dce
9 fire

i went 3-4

first 2 were gyrados and kingdra i was effed from beginning....2nd i was up against a flyrypherior beat that lost to kingdra again diff person tho. played another kingdra lost 5 beat a blaziken fb and blaziken that i havent seen before 6 beat a mom running shuppet dunsparce 7 lost to gengar (he took out my claydol!! otherwise i had a chance) lmk!

[LegendaryLugia]

Hope you had a good time at tourney =)

I still think that my build is pretty good, I'm using a very similar build for my Infernape/Garchomp deck. Btw, I wouldn't recommend SP energy. Not searchable, and aren't that useful in an all-fire deck. 4 Calls is def the way to go.

[a11ornuthin]

Yeah i really wished i woulda forked over some more cash for mor cyrus's and poketurns omg that woulda been VERY helpful but nope...


Hmm yeah the only reason i ran the sp was cause i didnt have the calls, and with the lack of basic/tech's i dont think they woulda been the greatest. If they keep up to platinum im goin for the turns and crobat g/bronzong g.

[Solemn_Party]

Yeah, you need 4 Cyrus's Conspiracy's.