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GodTrainer
01/03/2005, 09:41 AM
hey guys this is a torney report/request for deck help (more explaning my deck then torny report)


so yesterday i went to the exton CC.


i was determined to play something fun (not my blaz deck) because the CC dont really mean ne thing.

so the days prior i was torn between playing a dark crobat deck, or my dark t-tar/dark amphy deck.

i decided to go with the dark deck at the last second becauase, combined with other factors, i realized that the dark dragonite had reistance to grass (boo) so ne way here was my deck list

pokemon-20
3 dunspace
2 mareep
1 dark flaaff
2 dark ampharos
3 lavitar
2 dark pupitar (non-explosive)
3 dark tyranitar (sand power)
1 dark tyranitar (spin tail)
1 pidgy
1 pidgeotto
1 pidgeot

trainers-26
3 oaks research
2 copycat
3 stevens advice
4 rockets pokeball
4 rare candy
4 tm rock
2 switch
2 rockets hideout
1 suprise time macheine
1 vs seeker

energy-14
4 dark
4 electric
6 fighting

ok, now i came in 3rd with this deck. Now if you dont know the combo is to get an amphy on the bench and send up a sand t-tar with ne amount of nrg on it. Use atm rock to de evolve them (hopefully back to basics) then they get 10 damage for being basics, and if they revovle next turn they get the 20 from ampharos. it is sooooo sweet to pull of when it works, soo much fun

now how the deck preformed and what it lost to

the good things that seemed to work were
having 4 atm rock, always use full! even if you go second, and get behind in the race to a stage 2, the rock can knock your opponent back to a stage 1 and put you dead even... also essential to the combo stated above

having 4 rockets pokeball in this deck is a MUST. this makes it a lot easier to get out the 2 stage 2's needed as it is basicly a PETM in this deck so its like having 2 supporters to play per turn


now what went wrong
i think i guessed wrong on the supporters. During the torney my opponent NEVER had a hand of more then 4, and NEVER had more then 3 pokemon in play. THis got SOOOOO freaking anoying as when i practiced (and im sure all you plan on this to) copycat and stevens are the way to go.... well after this torney i dont know, i might go back to primarly tv reporter and oaks

now the major thing.

basicly if the bird came out i would win...every game, people this combo is LETHEAL and VERY hard to come back from but the bird is the only thing that assured me my atm's when i needed them, and my correct evos/nrg when i needed them.

all the games i lost and i do mean ALL were because either the pidgy or the pidgeott were in the prizes (or both lol)

i think the dark pupitar i chose was the better choise also, becauae there were some games where 2-dark on it yeiled 80 damage to all the fighting week stuff, a real advantage

the nrg worked fine to...i think thats the right amount, and really never had a problem with it, as long as i could shufle my hand quite offten, or get the bird set up.

the 2 decks i lost to were a dark steelex deck, when he freaking had a dark a fighting and then out of the blue he used the double dark, and a strengh charm to knock out my bird...strengh charm for chirst sakes! who plays strengh charm, no way i could have perdicted that....after i lost the bird in that game it all went down hill

second game i lost was in the cut to top 4, i lost to a deck i beat earlier(a strieght dark t-tar deck)...another dark tyranitar...basicly i got no nrg and the bird was in the prizes...all of the bird since i play dark ampharos and thats what i got set up first, so he got the type advange on me...o well

so what im asking for guys, is your opinions on tweeking my deck to get a 2-1-2 of the bird, and maybe one more fighting nrg or maybe a double dark (some times during the game that would have really helped)

maybe change the stadium, heck enough people already play the rockets hidout..i wanted to try something else to counter them, maybe ancient tomb or maybe desert ruins

also what do you guys think on the supporters....i got really screwed on my choises very advantages to my opponent


things to keep in mind
the combo of the deck please
also im not touching the 4 dark ball/ 4 rock. during the torney either having a dark ball or a rock in my hand was NEVER a problem and always an advantage for me.

thanks guys
all comments well come

Bobby
01/03/2005, 09:50 AM
Meh, Omastar/Amphy is better IMO, but...

If the bird is so useful, why don't you play a 2/1/2 line?

I'd play Desert Ruins over Rocket's Hideout, but that's just personal preference.

GodTrainer
01/03/2005, 09:56 AM
Meh, Omastar/Amphy is better IMO, but...

If the bird is so useful, why don't you play a 2/1/2 line?

I'd play Desert Ruins over Rocket's Hideout, but that's just personal preference.


well i considerd omistar

but i does evole from that dumb fossil and all you need is your opponent to have a t-tar active and all fossils you play get knocked out

lol, ill try desert ruins and yea if you read my post it says that i do want to fit in a 2-1-2 line but the problem is space, and im asking people what they think i should take out for it....maybe one stadium drop my count to 1 and then...what else?

thanks
keep them comming

Prime
01/03/2005, 11:06 AM
Wow, your not running celio at all. How do you get out a pidgeot quickly with no way to search for it? If you are looking to take something out, how about take out a sand-damage tyranitar? If not that, how about a surprise time machine? Good luck with the deck.

supertyranitar
01/03/2005, 11:29 AM
Here is my fix
-2 Rocket ball
-1 Seeker
-1 Tyranitar(Sand Dmg)
+2 Celio's network
+1 Pidgey
+1 Pidgeot

GodTrainer
01/03/2005, 01:27 PM
Here is my fix
-2 Rocket ball
-1 Seeker
-1 Tyranitar(Sand Dmg)
+2 Celio's network
+1 Pidgey
+1 Pidgeot


you guys are right, now that i think about it 3 sand t-tar is a bit to much

im going to try droping 2 rocket ball a seeker and the t-tar for the extras

will update if needed

thanks guys :clap:

Cyrus
01/03/2005, 01:51 PM
Interesting, other than this:

"i was determined to play something fun (not my blaz deck) because the CC dont really mean ne thing."

That's funny 'cause Amphy/Ttar is MUCH better in the current metagame than Blaziken, so it wasn't just a fun deck =p

ToysRUsKid
01/03/2005, 02:32 PM
Interesting, other than this:

"i was determined to play something fun (not my blaz deck) because the CC dont really mean ne thing."

That's funny 'cause Amphy/Ttar is MUCH better in the current metagame than Blaziken, so it wasn't just a fun deck =p
** much agrees **