What kind of League promos would YOU like to see?*UPDATE*

[Sensei]

Hey everyone,with the noticed lack of enthusiasm with the current "reprint" promos being distributed,I`ve been mulling posting something the last few weeks.We`ve all heard that alot of people would like a change and also that some Leagues have had people quit due to the "reprinted" promos,so I`m posting this for everyone to throw some ideas,and give your opinions on the status quo,and see if we can come up with something and also let PUI/Nintendo know that they need to change this.

So,what do you think?

`Sensei

[PokePop]

Some of the Web series cards so we can have them back in Modified.

Unown R!

The Imakuni? Promos!

Jamboree cards!

[Dek]

Well I have no right to say anything about the current promos because I DONT HAVE THEM :eek: (except Kyogre ex and Groudon ex)

anyways, with these different complaints that I'm hearing, I take it that there should be a change. Here are my thoughts

1. Pokemon that have different attacks (instead of reprinted stuff)
2. normal holo cards
3. Promo trainers
4. "couples," which consist of two (or more) promos that work together on the e-reader. after all, it's Pokemon-e :lol:
5. Special Energy cards that have never seen the light of day
6. Promos that are not only playable, but also are based on Nintendo's other games (like Super Mario, Legend of Zelda, Metroid)
7. promo cards based on the Johto/Hoenn gym leaders.

[GOROY]

I would like some old cards like elm and erika's bulbasaur. :p

[Orange Soda]

What about promos from sets that have yet to be released? I'd think it would be pretty easy to do.

[jesschow12]

i want shiny mew!!!

[Perfect0ne]

you can add me to the list of people who quit participating in the league. I go to trade but that it and only occassionally. I used to buy one pack every single time i went... not anymore... good choice on the reprints nintendo :thumb:

[SteveP]

Yup,

[farbsman]

I for one want anything other then the reprints of already released cards. Now when I say already released I mean cards that are currently legal in modified. I would love to see these cards:

Reverse holo Bill
Reverse holo Professor Elm
Reverse holo Energies (these were a huge hit at my leagues)
Reprints of the babies from Genesis in reverse or holo

I have had almost 20 kids quit between my two leagues because of the promos we currently have. They see no reason to come to league for cards they can get in packs. So what if they have new art.

Luckily they still come to the tournaments, well at least they came for the Sandstorm Prerelease. I just hope they show up for the Dragon Prerelease.

[SteveP]

I've gotta agree that almost no one (at least at our league) seems to be interested in the promo alternate image reprints. Man, WOTC did it "right" with the much-older reprints and occasional new cards (i.e., LP Mew).

[treecko_332]

I agree with Arthras Zero, where were the Jhoto leaders?

So those would be great promos.

Also, Unown R is a must. I knew a few colectors that went nuts opening packs to get one, and thought it was a holo rare :lol:

So those are my votes.

[marril2k]

I mostly agree with what has already been said... Newer cards with NEW game mechanics is something that would make my league crew happy. I mean, its great to earn new promos but when its a card that you can get just from a booster/theme deck with an art swap, it isn't all that fun... I have been giving out league badges from the 2nd year of the league as bonus rewards and the younger ones seem to go nuts over those... perhaps see about badges based of Hoenn? [shrugs] Just a thought.

I also would like to jump on board there about Unown R... Crikey its sure missing in action! ;)

-marril

[Son of Leod]

Hasn't been done for a couple of seasons, but my son mentioned the other day that he REALLY liked getting the badges instead of promo cards.

[ToysRUsKid]

Elm kills the format, its like no fun seriously...

Its time for a change, get used it =/ ... it acually makes the games closer, have ANY of you noticed that... Anyway

I would like to see some Gym Trainers Re-Released, and like some of you said, Pokemon with Different Attacks (NOT EVO EX Pokemon)

What I Mean is, I dont't want to see this

Charizard EX
Power (normal)
(R)(R) 60 To Any Pokemon
(R)(R)(R)(R) 200 ... Discard Two Energy

Example of stuff I don't want to see.

~TruK

[jdb728]

I've gotta agree that Badges were kinda nice, and IMO they would be better then alt artwork promos of commons and uncommons, of course, so would other cards that haven't been released yet, like some of the Vending cards, like Hypno(oh the fun you could have ;) ).
Also, I(like some other people on here) would like to see Unown R in an English version :cool: .

Those are just my opinions of course :D .
Thanks for reading.

[IvesRountree]

How about some ex regis? that would be good, dontcha think?

[cattdreams]

I'd like to see cards come in that give a bonus to people who take the time to work for them. That is, anyone is going to have 10 or 20 of the mudkips/torchics/treecos, but people who play in league and work for it should have cool things like recycle energy for instance, or lilly pad mew.

I'm also for reprints of things that effect the game as a whole, reprint bill would be great. allowing players to atleast use some of their older cards.

Ideally I'd like each month to include something old and reprinted thats not currently available in the current modified, and something new and never before seen. basically the best of both worlds.

when it gets down to it though, both of my preferances aim at a single goal, expanding the range of modified. which is what promo's should do.

[mysterioustrainer]

First off I like all new cards for promos, however for paticular favorites I would like Latias and Latios, also I would also like to see the Ash's Treeko, May's Torchic, and Brock's Mupkip cards printed in english.

[NoPoke]

promo Marill with a free retreat cost????

[Michel]

promo Marill with a free retreat cost????

That wouldn't solve the problem NoPoke. You don't receive the promos in the UK anyway ;) :lol:


Seriously, I think that promos have to be special cards, cards that don't exist in the normal sets.
You may have existing cards with different attacks, completely new cards (like LPMew), ...

It's better if these cards are playable. LPMew is a good example as it has found place in some competitive decks.

Kids are also interested in reverse holo cards that don't already exist in the official sets.

IOW, promo cards have to be 'special' cards, not a single copy of an existing card with the mention 'promo' on it.

But NoPoke has maybe a good idea ... couldn't we imagine for example a Pokemon with 3 retreat cost that would become 2 retreat cost in promo ?

[TeamRocket4Life]

Bill. All the way.

Perhaps promos made with fan art, like the Season 3 Snorlax of old?

[ukpokemonpro]

I have had almost 20 kids quit between my two leagues because of the promos we currently have. They see no reason to come to league for cards they can get in packs. So what if they have new art.

Try the rest of the world solution and give them old WotC promos for 5 months then see them devour those new art promo's .....

That's my solution you send your promo's you don't want to us and we'll send you the 50,000 Sneasel and Misdreavous ones we have.. ;)

[Marcello-Milord]

Hmm if they reprint Bill, it'll be the Supporter version from Japan... and a supporter Bill is an horrible thing :\

There are a lot of japanese promos never printed... Besides Vending, there are McDonald promos (besides the "new art" ones that we - oops you - currently have), 7-11 promos (my holo Torchic is looking awesome, in english it would be even more beautiful!), the Tyranitar ex promos, the Regi ex, Unown R... :)

[Joe Monkey]

YES I would like to see the 7-11 promos.

[Sensei]

I`ll echo the many sentiments above about Unnown R.Thats the one Unown that is not in English.

Also,draw cards are a boost to the format so putting in,for example Bill as a promo or even a new card altogether,is a good idea.

Michel hit it on the head(as well as a few others) that promo cards need to be "special".Thats what really makes you want to get the card.It`s just...irresistable.Who wants cards that are already printed?

Exactly. :)

`Sensei

[treecko_332]

Also, a lot of people said that they wanted new Ex's. I think that printing a whole lot of new Ex's is bad idea because then it would seem like a lot of games are with just 3 prizes and rediculusly powerful attacks. Ex's were made to be powerful, but not as powerful that they could win games with a deck with only them. This is why I think promo Ex's are a bad idea. There should really only be 3-5 in a set, so with the cirrent amount, promos would make things get out of had.

Treecko

[ShadowCard]

perhaps some of the VS cards. Definately Unown R.
not reprints, cards that are not released in the normal sets.
oh please no more holo energies for a long while. they were a big hit but then people had enough and I've still got a large supply of them.

definately the badges, people talk about wanting (and are eagerly awaiting) the Hoenn badges. promos definately take second place to them. remaking the Kanto badges might be a thing for those who missed them. they aren't a high demand thing but may still be liked by newbies.

[dkates]

Good point. Also, Promos need to be good cards. I'd especially like to see a reasonably powerful card for card drawing that isn't a Supporter (we need something like that for E-on, since we don't have Elm). Bill was mentioned, and that's an idea I like. Preferably a new card, just so it can be interesting, but there are a few old card drawers I'd be interested in seeing:
Bill. Mentioned already -- it's an old favorite. However, it may be a little broken for E-on with Oracle in there. Sabrina's Gaze. Considering the name, I doubt this one would happen, but it was a favorite of mine. Powerful, but not too powerful, IMO. Secret Mission. Might not go over as well -- it's just not that powerful -- but a hand peek and a drawing option is pretty cool. Professor Oak. Very unlikely, but at least you have to use a bit of strategy (although this is less true for some decks than others). Blaine's Gamble. Again, this one could be killed by its name, but it could be fun. Not the kind of card that would show up in every deck, I'd wager, but it could be very good nonetheless.

Also, in E-on, some types are a little lacking in terms of deckworthy non-evolving, non-ex Basics, IMO. So, why not one or two non-evolving, non-ex Basics of each type? Some ideas are listed below. I'm staying away from most of the Legendaries in this list -- I have a separate idea for them.
[/list] Fighting. Maybe Hitmonlee, Hitmontop, Heracross, Shuckle, or Relicanth. We do have a few Fighting Pokemon already that splash fairly well, but the type could use a little bit of a boost, or it'll never keep up with Psychic. Water. This type really is pretty lacking in this department. Qwilfish, (although we do have an ex), another :water Jynx, a :water Sneasel (it is part Ice, after all), or Mantine, perhaps. Fire. Not really many options here. Basically, there's Magmar and Torkoal. Every other Fire type I can think of either evolves or is a Legendary. Grass. Lots of options here. Heracross, Pinsir, Roselia, Shuckle, Tangela, or Tropius, maybe. Psychic. Not that it's needed -- we have Wobbuffet, but my idea was one of each type. Maybe Jynx, Girafarig, Mr. Mime, Chimecho, Sableye, or Misdreavus. Electric. Again, already covered -- we have Electabuzz, which is the only non-evolving, non-Legendary Basic out there. Colorless. Here, there are a lot of possible options. Stantler, Snorlax, Tauros, Miltank, Zangoose, Castform, Kangaskhan, Rayquaza (yes, it's Legendary, but it doesn't fit the next idea) Lickitung, Farfetch'd, Ditto, Smeargle, Aipom, and Kecleon all come to mind. Dark. Not much of a choice here. There's Sneasel, Absol, and Sableye -- that's it. Steel. Again, not many options. Only Skarmory really fits the bill. Just make it good this time, okay?[/list]

Another idea would come two or three cards at a time -- Legendary Pokemon, put out in related groups. By this, I mean the following groups:
Articuno, Zapdos, and Moltres. Yes, we have these 3 in E-on, but they have the most annoying Poke-Bodies I've ever seen. Raikou, Entei, and Suicune. Again, we have them, but again they have very annoying Poke-Bodies. Almost as annoying as the ones in the first group. Lugia and Ho-oh. If I'm not mistaken, E-on doesn't even have these two. Each showed up at least twice in the Neo sets, but they haven't reappeared since. Regirock, Regice, and Registeel. These guys don't yet have cards outside of Japan, if I'm not mistaken. Latias and Latios. From what I hear, we'll be getting ex versions of these two in EX: Dragons, but being Legendary and being a Pokemon-ex don't have to go hand in hand. Kyogre and Groudon. We have ex versions of these, true, although they weren't all that good. Still, like I said, being Legendary doesn't have to mean being a Pokemon-ex.

[yoshi1001]

http://pokewatch.nick15.com/cards/fakecard/pokewatch/085.jpg

Nuff' said. ;)

Truthfully, we don't need Bill- the game existed without it for about 9 months just fine. We don't need elm or flip babies or anything like that. This is about moving forward, not backwards. Occasional classic rereleases of cards that were never that popular but could work now are nice, but rereleases of cards that defined the game are pretty pointless. That's not to say I don't like rereleases of previously used cards, just the kind that doesn't add anything positive to the game.

Remember, only you can prevent rereleases!

(A public service announcement of PIRN)

[FlygonChampion]

http://pokewatch.nick15.com/cards/fakecard/pokewatch/085.jpg

Nuff' said. ;)

Truthfully, we don't need Bill- the game existed without it for about 9 months just fine. We don't need elm or flip babies or anything like that. This is about moving forward, not backwards. Occasional classic rereleases of cards that were never that popular but could work now are nice, but rereleases of cards that defined the game are pretty pointless. That's not to say I don't like rereleases of previously used cards, just the kind that doesn't add anything positive to the game.

Remember, only you can prevent rereleases!

(A public service announcement of PIRN)

I could not have said it better myself.

[GOROY]

"Lugia and Ho-oh. If I'm not mistaken, E-on doesn't even have these two. Each showed up at least twice in the Neo sets, but they haven't reappeared since."

Originally posted by dkates.



They are actually both Crystal Pokemon in the e-sets. :D

[dkates]

Point taken. Still, if we're gonna have Lugia and Ho-oh, don't you agree they should be better than that?

[GOROY]

Yes, they definately should be better.
I liked the Neo Revelation versions of both.
They were pretty good solid BBP's.

[Michel]

Sensei,
In addition to promos (for the league), you could also propose to PUI to make tournament packs, like Konami does for YGO.

Small boosters that are given to the players/winners of tournaments.
The cards in these boosters are not available elsewhere and are really great for collectors (and players in the cards are playable).
All the different cards together make a 'tournament set'.

IMO, that could bring new players to tournaments too, or bring old players back. That would be something new in our game too.
If promos are a motivation to come to the league, such packs are a motivation to play tournaments.

[Timmy Two Tone]

You know I thought that Eon would be just awful without Elm, and when I saw the topic my first thought was reprint Elm. But I like the Elmless Eon, Give me 2 Delkitties anyday!

But the cards I would like to see made for promo's would be the McDonald or 7-11 promos, How about all those vending cards...

... and a colorless Pokemon resistant to psychic, and Recycle Energy what happened to Recycle Energy

:)

[pokeprofRaymond]

As all these suggested future promo cards are being discussed in this thread, is there anyway this can be addressed to PUI befor the succeeding seasons to come. :confused:

[Rainbowgym]

Discussion over, Latias is coming as promo.

[Dek]

Reprints of the babies from Genesis in reverse or holo

I dont know about that one. If Nintendo did do that, then we would have the same problem we did before with Modified when WotC was in charge. However, if they did, I would suggest the following:

-Change their HP to 50
-Replace the old Baby power and put in the new one (the evolution one)
-Change Tyrouge's Smash Punch to 20

[Sensei]

OK everyone,some really good ideas!(forgive me for not getting back to this sooner)

Next up,since it looks like we are still getting reprint promos,and more and more people are getting annoyed with this,everyone needs to state their disatisfaction so the people at Nintendo know that alot of you are not happy with the status quo.You can state what you think should be done,how you feel about the reprints,or anything else that pertains to this.But overall,you need to make some noise so that you are heard!Post away!

`Sensei

[marril2k]

[Sigh] Yet again, my league players seem to only be dissapointed with the reprints... luckally the oversized promos I have in mind for the next few months will keep them coming (worked during BattleZone when I didn't get any kits...)

I think a good suggestion right now, would be to sit down, clam down, and spent 5 minutes at the most to email Pokemon USA, Inc. our conserns about the promotional cards. I mean there has been plenty of promos released in Japan that are not reprints, why can't we see a few of those... or perhaps Jamboree? Well, Jamboree perhaps is asking a little too much now but... ^^' Anyways, I think taking the 5 minutes to write an email would be a good strategy right now... either Leagues@pokemon-tcg.com or Organizedplay@pokemon-tcg.com ... not 100% where to send... promos primarly are released via league, yet who knows, maybe the general inbox would be good?

Or! If you want to write a physical letter and/or storm the Pokemon USA, Inc. HQ (joking...), send it to Pokemon USA, Inc. 2820 150th Ave NE, Redmond, WA 98052. Lets let them know what we think!... while keeping it civilized ^^"

-marril

[Sensei]

Ah yes,excellent idea Marril!Not only post here but also e-mail your concerns to organizedplay@pokemon-tcg.com !

`Sensei

[jesschow12]

i would like to see:

non reprinted promos!
shining mew!
celebi ex!
VS cards which are holo!

[RainbowRichards]

Sensei,
In addition to promos (for the league), you could also propose to PUI to make tournament packs, like Konami does for YGO.

Small boosters that are given to the players/winners of tournaments.
The cards in these boosters are not available elsewhere and are really great for collectors (and players in the cards are playable).
All the different cards together make a 'tournament set'.

IMO, that could bring new players to tournaments too, or bring old players back. That would be something new in our game too.
If promos are a motivation to come to the league, such packs are a motivation to play tournaments.

HERE, HERE! I agree 1000%! I have been asking for just such "small" tournament support. **runs and starts on his email to PUI/POP/NOA**

[Rocketman]

Good luck getting tournament support. I hosted a tournament at a local Anime con here, and I asked for prize support and got nothing. Not even a reprint promo card! But I would love to see a little more creativity in the promo cards. They certainly have much to work with, as there are many promos released in Japan that have never been released here. The 8 Lucky Statiums are 8 cards I'd like to see. But as far as card drawing, Pokemon has always been a little heavy in that area. In the Neon format, you could have 4 Bills, 4 Elms, 4 Copycats, 4 Cleffas.....and more. You could very easily have gotten 3 new hands( or more) per turn, and I really thought it was too much. I for one do not think we need more drawing cards. But I would love for them to stop using reprints as promos, I wonder if it's not just a money saving move.

[Gym Leader Blaine]

For me to would also be the Unown R promo, just to finish the Unown set.

[Spectreon]

I wonder if it's not just a money saving move.
I highly doubt it, with the exception of Bagon Promos, all other reprints have either new art, or foil added to them. Doesnt sound like a big money saver to me.

I can understand most of the reprints though. Promote the 3 biggest names in R/S, the starters, and their stage 1's. Bagon was to promote Dragons in various places (4 versions of same card, sheesh. Well 5 including regular Dragons one). Darkness Energy made little sense, but since I have been dying for actuall Holo Darkness (not RH, HOLO) since Japan got them in VS set. I know speculation is Metal this month. I really hope not, but I guess it wouldnt hurt either, having Nintendo Holo Metals. It seems that since they changed the NRg to only effect the specific type, I have been using them less and less.... And not a good veriaty of Dark Pokemon in modified anyways. And now we get holo Starters... too much!!!!

I would like to see (cards I know or heard where already released as promos in Japan)

Unown R (prolly not gonna see it =[ )
Regi trio EX's
Recently released Mew, Celebi, Jarachi Promos
The rest of 711 Promos
Armoldo EX
Tyranitar EX
Celebi EX
Shining Mew (again not likely)

[ukpokemonpro]

Forgive me for asking but trolling up a 3 month old post seems to be worthless .. have we not already been down the what do we want and complaining to PUI road already?

Surely they must realise from reading the boards, feedback from players and from leagues that the promos are not being well received in the US?

Personally they don't float my boat either but our (the rest of the world?) players have been so starved of Promos that anything is better than another wotc winner promo!

Email PUI sure but this thread was dead why raise it from the grave?

[treecko_332]

dkates, about Sabrina's gaze and Blane's gamble, PUI could just reprint the card with a different name. Magic does that all the time. It works. About turnement packs, could work, but it almost the same as promo's.

Just hope we get some new promo's soon. (and Nick15's leage for the Bay area, so we can get them :D )

Treecko

[mysterioustrainer]

Forgive me for asking but trolling up a 3 month old post seems to be worthless

Email PUI sure but this thread was dead why raise it from the grave?
Haven't you learned that moderators can do whatever they want? Sometimes there are good reasons for old topics to be brought up, its just that it is rediscussed in a new topics.

Every league report I have told them that they need to make all new promos for league. I think they need to look at the first couple of seasons' league promos (Arcanine, Mew, Eevee, Computer Error, Cleffa, Igglybuff, Smeargle) and make new promos that kind of have the same uniqueness as these promos. What do I mean by uniqueness? Well whenever I earned one of these cards when I played I had a boat load of fun deck ideas pop in my head when I saw them. That is what makes exclusive promos fun to earn.

[BJJ763]

June 1, 2003 - "League promos will consist of promos that were only available only at McDonald's in Japan."
"League promos will consist of promos that were available in coloring books only in Japan."

And everyone rejoiced at the news!

But we didn't know that those promos were the same card as R&S with just different art work.

And not everyone was happy.

Jan 2004 - "League promos will come from the series of promos that were available only at 7-11 stores in Japan."

What would your reaction be?

Then what would your reaction be if they turned out to be alternate art cards?

It's tough. League promos seem to be geared towards the Pokémon Advanced promos in Japan (numbered ###/ADV). THere are currently 45 promos. Actually less as the 7-11 set had H and NH versions of cards. Since most of us (if any) know what they do, it is tough to pick from them. Though if they made the 7-11 Wishur (or whatever the Loudred Basic is), everyone would be happy - a new promo because we don't have any Wishur cards! Groundon is another 7-11 card they could make as we don't have any Groundon cards (Groundon ex has been released).

So my wish list for League promos:

Dragon RH TV Reporter (yeah print them like they should've been printed in Dragon!!!!)
Unown R (yeah it break the R&S only promos but many people will finally be able to complete their Unown set and even spell their name!! Wonder how Jimmer spells his...
7-11 promos - if they are not alternate art or are released before any set contains them
Jirachi Promo # 015/ADV - Jirachi would make everyone happy even if the attack sucks and cannot be played
Ash's Treecko, May's Torchic, & Brock's Mudkip - HOLY COW!!! Don't you think people will go absolutely crazy for these?????
Armaldo ex - Hey an ex Pokémon!!!!
How about Registeel ex, Regice ex, & Regirock ex promos? The ###/PLAY Japanese promos? More ex'es! And of ones NOT released!

And those are just the R&S ones - we can go "back" to the Junior Rally ones (Pikachu, Mewtwo, Entei, Lugia, Celebi, & Pichu) for ones that could be popular (unless they too are alternate art). And the other McDonald's promos. Plenty of non-R&S ones.

[Spectreon]

Dont forget, the 2 tin promos, Meowth and Pikachu were originally released in Japan through 7-11.

[ukpokemonpro]

Haven't you learned that moderators can do whatever they want?

Damn I new there was something I needed to remember ;)

Actually I do think this is kinda wasted effort tho' unless PUI visit the boards again and actually listen then there is no point :(

Here's hoping they have their ears on .. cumon

[SteveP]

As much as I dislike the YuGiOh TCG, I like the way Upper Deck uses Tournament Packs at their tournaments that contain cards not sold in the normal sets. IMO, that's the ONLY way to do league promos. NO MORE RE-PRINTS or AI-PRINTS in league kits please!!! (However, re-prints or AI-prints are okay for Scrye/Inquest/CON promos.)

[Sensei]

Forgive me for asking but trolling up a 3 month old post seems to be worthless .. have we not already been down the what do we want and complaining to PUI road already?

`Pro,there`s a method to my madness.Trust me...;)

`Sensei

[Dek]

Dont worry, Sensei. When it comes to madness, we can trust ya :lol:

anyhoo, I dont know about the rest of ya, but I think that, from what i mentioned in the first page, have pokemon cards based on other Nintendo series would be a cool idea.

1. Its something no one has ever done before (unless Konami released a Solid Snake promo for YuGiOh in Japan that we dont know about :lol: )
2. It would be a great way to get "the other" Nintendo fans into the card game seeing their favorite Nintendo characters mentioned into the game *looks at Cube Club organizer*
3. Pokemon is part of Nintendo anyways, so it would make it a lot easier to do.

I can just imagine this in the future

Mario's Magmar
80 HP

(R) Fireball- For every (R) energy attached to Mario's Magmar, flip a coin. This attack does 10 times the number of heads. Then discard that many (R) Energies equal to the number of heads. 10x

Weakness: (W)
Resistance -30: none
Retreat: (C)

[Spectreon]

LOL SOLID SNAKE YGO card

Solid Snake ****
Effect- Sneak Up Attack: This monster can attack while in face up Defense Position. Use the Moster's ATK score when attacking, unless another card would change this.
2000 ATK 1200 DF

I would be more interested in a Psyco Mantis card though....

And Sensie, I thought you where more madness and less method, lol....

[ukpokemonpro]

Pokemon is part of Nintendo anyways, so it would make it a lot easier to do.

That will please the Pokemon Company no doubt ;) We all know the lines are blurred but Pokemon is NOT NINTENDO

And I for one would like to keep it that way please ... whatever next a Neopet in the Forest having the does it stick conversation with an Ursaring?

Actually I kinda like that one the SkyRidge Ursaring already looks like it was a heavy curry night as it is..

Seriously tho' where are the PUI equivalents of Promo 12 and Promo 13? I remember when just having one as First Prize would pull in players from all over.. can't see an oversize Combusken doing that!

We always had reprint promos like Sabrina's Abra and Psyduck but not as many and as concentrated as we seem to be getting now...

WotC started the rot by dolling out the last Winner promo's like sweeties on halloween and yes we need to have the flash participation promos to keep the masses involved.. but give us something special for the winners please ... Something rare and magical for the players to really want to work towards.

[poinko]

I'd like to see a Dugtrio promo.

No point really, I just like Dugtrio.

Actually, I'd really like to see some new promos of the older Pokemon, along with some of the newer Pokemon. The new promos like the Meowth and the Pikachu were pretty nice, but I really would have rather swapped them out and get the 3 alternate art cards and have the Meowth/Pikachu as league promos. It kinda sucks all the fun out of league and earning points if you're going to get a card that you already have, anyway.

The holo Darkness energy was swell, but I don't know what I'll do if the next promo is Metal energy. That might have been all well and good back in the Neo days where it was difficult to get a hold of 4 for a deck, but now I must have at least 20 of them, thanks to their inclusion in basically every set since Expedition.

Some more badges would be pretty neat, and look good next to all the other ones I have. Of course, I'm only a completionist, so that's why I think its a good idea... ;)

Another Victory Road would be neat, where you get better promos depending on how many points you're able to earn. Some holo Trainers would be nice, too, I always liked holo Trainers. And definitely Imakuni? cards. Or the Imakuni? TCG. Now THAT would be interesting. Or some of the Vending cards in ADV format.

And that's all I can think about right now... Maybe I'll have some more, later.

-Poinko

[DaytonGymLeader]

There's still a bunch of the Vending Cards that haven't been released. NEW PROMOS. I think is one of the things that everyone wants, new promos versus alternate art ones.

[GOROY]

I think it would be cool for them to pick pokemon fans and let them make a card, that would be cool.

[Freddy K.]

New promos please, on behalf of my league. Lily Pad Mew and the 'Buzz promo from WotC days caused the most excitment as far as I can remember last year.

NO MORE MISDREAVEAVUEAUSSES PLEASE!!!

Recycle Energy and Bill n/supporter could be interesting in the game. Gold Berry would be moreso, I do miss it. Elm would kill it off, I agree. I LOVE the idea of tournament packs! Pokémon Trader? 's what we do with Pokémon, after all!

But DEFINITELY something newer PLEASE!

HTH 'Sensei =)

~fK

[irwinmalek]

I actually agree that one of the following would be very useful to the game right now.

Bill or Trader.

Bill is nowhere near broken, but would still IMHO make quite an impact on decks at the minute.
Trader would do the same.

Neither are super-powerful, but both are efficient at what they do.

Gold Berry maybe...not..

[Broken Lizard]

Gold Berry with the ex Pokémon is over the top...

If PUI really wants to get players to pick up the game again, or for the first time, then they need to generate excitement. They need to give people a compelling reason to come out to league and play. Once the leagues are growing again, there would be momentum that they can build on.

So, how to generate that excitement and momentum?!

Simple: release some completely new promos, and make at least a few gameworthy.

If players have to come to league to get some new, decent cards (example: Lily Pad Mew), then they will come. As attendance at leagues grows, the apparent resurgence in popularity will draw more people in. This will include both former players and new players. Once players are actively playing the game, it should be easier to maintain the momentum.

Brand new promos could be released simultaneously in all markets (US, Europe and Japan, anyway), and could serve to add a global marketing hook for the game. There should be alternate ways to get the promo (say, a month or so after the initial league release), such as an insert into a magazine like Scrye, Nintendo Power, etc. This would address the lack of access to leagues in many geographic locations.

I should think that this marketing move would be obvious to the company, but apparently it is not... :confused:

And please... not everyone loves the Nintendo video games enough to appreciate a 'Luigi's Lugia'. If they ever start that, I'm gone!

[ukpokemonpro]

Recycle Energy and Bill n/supporter could be interesting in the game. Gold Berry would be moreso

Now FK no Gold Berry until you learn how to play it! No wonder Irwin thinks "maybe not "... ;)

Bill would be good alternate art work please and nice foil treatment just to make it really special..

Trader has got to be a NO NO with Rare Candy it would just make getting your God and EX God too easy!

[Rainbowgym]

What are you talking about, what are league promo's?
O, those cards which players of the pokemon TCG should earn.
Or do you mean those cards you can buy on internet?

Didn't see any of them, neither did one of our 90 players.

[Dek]

Maybe some of the VERY old pokemon could make a return as Promos. Or maybe some more Pokemon-ex. Here are some ideas

Venusaur ex
Charizard ex (everyone said it, but ill just add it in)
Blastoise ex (also mentioned before)
Meganium ex
Feraligatr ex
Pidgeot ex
Beedrill ex
Scizor ex (maybe it can evolve from Scyther AND Scyther ex, which could add a twist to evolution rulings)

[Spectreon]

Scizor ex (maybe it can evolve from Scyther AND Scyther ex, which could add a twist to evolution rulings)
Prolly be a basic like Rockets Scizor was, just to screw with us. lol

[Sensei]

A word to League Leaders:When you submit your League Report Form where it asks for what your members disliked about League,this is another way you can let them know the unhappiness of League members about these reprint promos!

`Sensei

[farbsman]

two words Recycle Energy

I mean if your gonna reprint energies, at least make it something we don't have in modified format yet.

[Dek]

I mean if your gonna reprint energies, at least make it something we don't have in modified format yet.

In that case, why not Double Colorless, Potion, and Full Heal Energies?

[Nick15]

http://www.fakecard.com/tcg/vending/images/005-haunter.jpg THIS ONE THIS ONE THIS ONE!!
http://www.fakecard.com/tcg/vending/images/027-hypno.jpg THIS ONE TOO THIS ONE TOO!!!

I've been waiting for these cards for YEARS. YES YEARS. I WANT TO SEE THEM PRINTED. Hell, I'll pay good money to see every card never released in English... printed in English. May not be a promo, but somehow, someway, I want them all in English.

[foaming at the mouth] But if anything, at LEAST release all the Vending cards.

[poinko]

That Hypno is kinda pointless unless they release Clefairy Doll as well, right? Well, not TOTALLY pointless, but seriously, of all the cards to choose from, I don't think Clefairy Doll is in anyone's Top 10, or even Top 20 for that matter(I could and have been wrong before, however).

I'd like to see the vending Weezing come out, because that was a neat lil' card. Plus it was Weezing. Everyone likes Weezing.

I think the days of hoping for English Vending is long gone, unfortunately. But we can always look forward to such favorites as 7-Eleven Ludicolo! And Celebi! And dual-type Metagross! Dual-Type! *gets all excited*

[Tego]

Dont worry, Sensei. When it comes to madness, we can trust ya :lol:
1. Its something no one has ever done before (unless Konami released a Solid Snake promo for YuGiOh in Japan that we dont know about :lol: )
2. It would be a great way to get "the other" Nintendo fans into the card game seeing their favorite Nintendo characters mentioned into the game *looks at Cube Club organizer*
3. Pokemon is part of Nintendo anyways, so it would make it a lot easier to do.


Pokémon hasn't become a part of Nintendo recently. A Pokémon card featuring Mario was just as likely 4 years ago as it is now.

I don't really like when they make Japanese promos into English -
it severely drops the value on the Japanese promos which I work
very hard to get.

Why do you think that? The Japanese promos don't become more common and easier to get because an English translation is released. They could print an ultra-rare Japanese promo in 2 billion English copies and give them away on the street all over the USA, but the Japanese version would still be as rare as ever.

New promos please, on behalf of my league. Lily Pad Mew and the 'Buzz promo from WotC days caused the most excitment as far as I can remember last year.

NO MORE MISDREAVEAVUEAUSSES PLEASE!!!

Recycle Energy and Bill n/supporter could be interesting in the game. Gold Berry would be moreso, I do miss it. Elm would kill it off, I agree. I LOVE the idea of tournament packs! Pokémon Trader? 's what we do with Pokémon, after all!

But DEFINITELY something newer PLEASE!

HTH 'Sensei =)

~fK

No more Misdreavuses, I think all League members here would agree on that. :lol: We got especially many Misdreavuses during League Year 2, then both Steven and I got the Holiday Kit 2002 of BattleZone with even more Misdreavuses. Now it's become an inside joke at League. We talk about giving a Misdreavus to players as a way of torture, and we often throw Misdreavuses after players who didn't act nice, before they resign and promise to act nice and get a newer Promo instead. ;)

[Tego]

That Hypno is kinda pointless unless they release Clefairy Doll as well, right? Well, not TOTALLY pointless, but seriously, of all the cards to choose from, I don't think Clefairy Doll is in anyone's Top 10, or even Top 20 for that matter(I could and have been wrong before, however).


But it's just a funny card to play casual with anyway. It's so funny, I just want to make a weird Clefairy Doll deck and play VS newbies with not-so-strong Unlimited decks. ;)

[poinko]

I actually had built a deck with that Hypno with 4 Clefairy Dolls(only time i ever used them, too), and it worked pretty well. Of course I made sure my opponent was fine going up against that card, and even explained to them exactly what it did before we played, anyway.

I also threw in 4 Mysterious Fossil just for the heck of it. Had to max out on ItemFinder, also. I forget which other Pokemon I had in there, too. Possibly Wobbuffet from Neo: Discovery, to help absorb damage. Still, it's a fun card, but if it is released, it won't see play unless Clefairy Doll is re-released.

3 Vending Hypno: $5 a piece
A package of new card sleeves: $6.99
Your opponent's expression when they get KO'ed by a Clefairy Doll: Priceless

[P_A]

Here's one for you: A trainer that's a supporter (with the supporter rule of course) that states something to this affect:

"The next coin flip for the player using this card will be considered heads regardless of whether it is heads or tails."

Being a supporter, it would be somewhat less of a broken card, but still VERY useful, especially with decks relying on flips. One flip per turn being considered heads would be amazing, but not necessarily a game breaker if everyone has a chance at a copy.

[Spectreon]

The deck was fun Poink... I helped with the Pokemon support

it was a 2-2 Slowking/Dark Slowking

Mysterious Fossil was there for fun, and Neo3 Aerodactyl....Usefull with Fossil Slowbro (discards a P NRG to get a discarded trainer)

and Focus Band (that was the best, a Banded Clefairy Doll, your oopponent attacked it, you flip heads, negate all damage since Doll only has 10 HP)

You put 2 P on Hypno, and Send Dolls to do 30 a turn, your opponent only KOed maybe 2-4 actual Pokemon before you drew your last prize.... FUN!!!!

Anyways, yes, and the newly released McDonalds promos look sweet. 5 Cards, Swampert, Blazekin, and Sceptile (100 HP, 2 retreat each, moderate looking attacks) and a new Plusle and Minum (50 HP, 1 retreat). All cards appear to be holo.

[Cyrus]

Well, this may sound lame, but top priority should definitely be Unown R! It's the ONLY missing one! X_X

As for other things....maybe bill?

[Nick15]

Re-release Clefairy Doll? What do you mean? [thinks] Ohh... you mean in Modified... ;) Actually that Hypno would make a mighty fine deck... maybe throw in some Potions as well just to drive your opponent nuts?? :D

[farbsman]

How about a reverse holo TV reporter? I know a lot of people that would go for that one.

[BJJ763]

How about a reverse holo TV reporter? I know a lot of people that would go for that one.

Yeah but like i already said it'd have to look like it came from a Dragon EX pack, no black star no "promo", just the RH TV Reporters that didn't make it into the Dragon EX boosters.

[Dek]

Alright, since my "Incorporate other Nintendo franchises" idea went down the hole, here is a different idea, even though others already mentioned this one...

re-release some of the older Trainer cards from the WotC era.

and by older, I dont mean "Neo sets" older. I mean "Base Set through Rocket" old.
Maybe a few possibilities...
Lass w/ Supporter rule
Breeder w/ supporter rule
Trader w/ supporter rule
Imposter Oak w/ supporter rule
Pluspower/Defender w/ Pokemon Tool rule
Revive O_o;

[SuperWooper]

Alright, since my "Incorporate other Nintendo franchises" idea went down the hole, here is a different idea, even though others already mentioned this one...

re-release some of the older Trainer cards from the WotC era.

and by older, I dont mean "Neo sets" older. I mean "Base Set through Rocket" old.
Maybe a few possibilities...
Lass w/ Supporter rule
Breeder w/ supporter rule
Trader w/ supporter rule
Imposter Oak w/ supporter rule
Pluspower/Defender w/ Pokemon Tool rule
Revive O_o;

Pluspower is Strength Charm and Defender is buffer piece, Arthas. That happened a looong time ago. And Lass with Supporter rule would be nice. I'd pick that or Discovery Tyrouge with a one retreat cost and the old baby rule, smae HP same attack, just a one retreat.

[LittlePichu]

How about Bubble Mew or any vending cards or those McDoneles card that the Japaness pass out
or Maybe the pokemon GameBoy Drangonite that you get from buying the gameboy it in Japan?
these are some of the promos.That I got in Japaness..Beside the McDanels ones,,
((sorry everyone about my Spelling or my Grammer...I know its bad =D))

[Dek]

i just thought of one. Why not some of the cards that never made it to the real card game, but made it to the GBC card game

[SlimeyGrimey]

I don't care what promos we get as long as they're new/REALLY old reprints. I stopped going to league after the Dragons prerelease, and only returned recently to learn whether or not we were getting city championships. I'd rather sit at home and play on apprentice than go to league, earn reprint promos, and play against players that can hardly beat mediocre eon decks with their ulimited ones.:nonono:

[Nick15]

Why not release every single Japanese cards never printed in English? Including VS (it would make a cool draft set)....

[yoshi1001]

This would be a good start:

http://pokewatch.nick15.com/cards/fakecard/promo/misdreavus.jpg

But seriously, I want to see more tactical cards that force players to make more hard decisions.

[Sensei]

Just a...word,if you haven`t sounded off in this thread and want a chance to let a...certain company know what you feel about this subject,then please,by all means,let your voice be heard and sound off!Or if you just want to continue giving more ideas,please feel free to do so! :)

`Sensei

[Prime]

Metal and Dark energy as promos were a bad idea. Making 4 different kinds of Bagon promos is a even worse idea. I cannot say that I am looking forward to Nintendo's next promo. Latios and Latias was nice. Pikachu and Meowth was awesome, and Groudon and Kyogre EX(holo) was really cool aswell. If I could pick any card to be the next promo given away, it would have to be a Jirachi promo. Make it holo, and it will be like the Mew promo that came out when WotC was giving out promos. We need some more holo promos anyways, because I see promos as rare collectables, not reprinted set cards.

[NoPoke]

Trainer: GOLDEN RULE:Stadium Card

usual stadium card text.

If a card contradicts a game rule the card wins.

-------
;

[Xeno]

I think the Dark/Metal Energys did make good promos though, a lot of the new players don't have those cards and they are rare. New Players look at the metal and dark types and pratically druel all over them. As for the Hoenn starters and their stage ones, I thought the new art looked nice. I really liked the promos and so do most of the others at the league I play.

[Spectreon]

I like a delecate mix. Wizards had it right. An occassional reprint, but mostly new cards. Reprints were generally Prerelease/W Stamped or whatever, though a few where Promo Star. League promo's should always be new cards though... reprinting should be saved for other stuff.

Metal/Dark is a double edged sword. For players like me and most on this board, we barely care. I was thrilled to have holo Darkness (finally), but underimpressed by the metal, having seen them in Genesis. Though many young players are hapy to get these cards, having none to not many of each, most of us have an abundance of them (having released them in Gen, Exp, AQ, and R/S so far).

Unown R (in old pre E-card format preferably) is the top of my list. Wizards screw up to not make this cards has a lot of us POed we cannot finish an Unown set.

7-11 japaneese promos, well the ones we havent seen. There are still 5-6, including Whismur, Groudon (non EX), Lodicolo, Jirachi , and a couple of others.

Several unreleased EX's. The 3 Regi's, Armoldo, and others.

There are others, but those are my top 3 (well top 10+ really...)

[NoPoke]

Yep one-size-fits-all won't work. Flexibility is the key.

[NoPoke]

The old Mr Mime would be interesting. Not game breaking but definately playable.
Base Charizard could be brought back too.
I'd like to see some of the earlier lightning resistant fighters come back too.

Lass maybe,
genesis pichu.

there are lots of old cards that could be reintroduced safely. Maybe we need a LC2!

[BJJ763]

LC2? Wow what a great idea!

Oh wait.....

[SlimeyGrimey]

LC2 would be fine, but guess what we'd be getting at the next sanctioned tournament as prize support. :rolleyes:

Anyway, what I like to see in a promo card is something that adds to the game. Like a card that makes decent support in some decks (and is original; see examples), or a card that could have a fun (probably non-competitive) deck built around it.

This is what I DO NOT want to see.

Mewtwo 80HP
(P)(C)Psychic 20+
(P)(C)(C)smack attack 50

This is the type of thing I DO want to see.

Mewtwo 80HP
(P)Energy replenish
flip a coin if heads shuffle up to 3 (P) energy cards from your discard pile into your deck
(P)(C)(C)Hand manipulation 10+
You and your opponent each reveal your hands. This attack does 10 damage plus 20 more damage times the number of supporters in your opponent's hand. Then, this attack does 10 less damage for each supporter in your hand.

The first one may be good, but if all the promos were like that it would be boring. Some should be like that, but I think more promos should be like the latter.

JMO.

[GardevoirGuardian]

Well, on the topic of re-print picture change promos, I can safely say my friends and I agree it's a waste of cardboard. I'd like to see either the Japanese McDonald Promos, the Vs2 set, or the god foresaken Vending Series!

[Dek]

here would be a good one. Even though I made this for the CAC forums, I think it would still be a good idea:

Scizor ex
100 HP - Stage 1 (Evolves from Scyther and Scyther ex)*
(M)

(Pokemon-ex rule)

Poke-Body: Metal Aura- If Scizor ex is your Active Pokemon, prevent any damage done to your benched pokemon that are (M).

(M)(C)(C) Guard Slash - Flip a coin. If heads, any damage done to Scizor ex is reduced by 20 during your opponent's next turn (any other effects of attack still happen). 40

Weakness: (R)
Resistance: (G)
Retreat: (C)(C)

* This star represents a new type of evolution, where this specific Pokemon may evolve from its Pokemon-ex pre-evolution or its normal pre-evolution.

[Spectreon]

* This star represents a new type of evolution, where this specific Pokemon may evolve from its Pokemon-ex pre-evolution or its normal pre-evolution.
Reminds me of mine.....

Blissey EX (evovles from Chansey or Chansey ex*)

200 HP (Duh, its Blissey, Wailord shouldnt out do it)

Poke-Power: Eatible Sofboiled Eggs; when Blissey EX is played from hand, remove all Damage counters from Pokemon in play. For each Pokemon you removed damage from in this way, discard all Energy attached.

CC Helping Hand Flip 3 coins. For each heads you may take 1 Energy card from the discard Pile and shuffle it into your deck, then place 1 Damage Counter on Blissey.

CCCC Psycotic Double Edge 120; You must disard a Basic Energy from Blissey or this attack does nothing. If this attack does damage, Blissey does 50 to its self and cannot use this attack next turn.

CCC-Retreat
F-Weak
none-Resist


Too broken, or just broken enough??? lol

[NoPoke]

very nice pokemon power on that Blissey Spectreon :)

Thinks maybe we need a stadium card to negate energy transfer .A chaos like effect 'If a player wishes to use a pokemon power during this turn that player flips a coin: If heads the power works normally. If tails your opponent may use that pokemon power and you cannot use it again this turn.'


Maybe PUI will allow us to design a card's text and get it approved by TPC in Japan. Now a fan designed card would make a nice league promo or two . HINT HINT PUI

[Spectreon]

Dont think stadium would/or should interfere with Come into Play powers thoug, since even almighty Muk can't

We need that Electrode from the ADV 4 set (5th R/S EX series) out now, that would definitely be interesting