rk9 ex, how much it is now???

[carlossan]

I was thinking on buying some rk9 but first I wanted to know the real price. Does anyone could make an approximation?

[ryanvergel]

They're not out yet, so any price would be pretty inflated.

Wait a few weeks after the set has been out for more accurate prices. You have to remember that before a set is out the demand for cards is a LOT higher, well into a few weeks the set has been out.

[meganium45]

Or, you buy the cards early, before their real power is known.

Didn't anyone find it strange that you could NOT buy any RK9 EX in Japanese?

Look what's winning in Japan.

At this point, I would happily pay $20.00 or more for one!

Vince

[Flaming_Spinach]

Look what's winning in Japan.


Pardon me, but I have no idea what's winning Japan. So there is no way I can "Look at what's winning in Japan."

Of course, if you could provide a link or something, that'd be nice.

[blastoise1992]

i heard someone at a Pre got 150$+ in cards though, still its alot.

[ryanvergel]

Eh, Japan is japan, they're not like us. We made t2, we were dominated by rocklock...
Different styles of play. Who knows if arcanine will be as powerful here.

[Prime]

I agree 100% with ryanvergel. I've told people in my area the same thing. They're like, "I'm going to go online and chat with the japanese about what's winning in their area". I'm like, okay, and maybe sure to bring that decklist with SS dunsparce and other illegal cards to league so I can laugh at you.

[ryanvergel]

They have a different format, different playstyle, etc etc etc. What works with them doesn't have to work ehre, we even have a different set of legal cards, so what's winning NOW, aka, what's winning with arcanine and OTHER sets that we DONT have is completely different from what would be winning HERE with sets we DO have.

I mean, of course the obvious combos can be taken from the japanese, but when it comes to fine nuances and playstyle, what flies there might not fly here, especially when you take in the fact that we have a different set of legal cards than them.

[carlossan]

so we dont know if rk9 will be an archetype? or what do you mean ryanvergel?

[Mewstor]

I wouldn't put so much hope on Arcanine. Like every one has said, we don't really know how it's gonna play before we get to play test it. It is a good card, I'm not saying anything else. But we don't know how good.

Though I would be really happy if I got more than 50 bucks from my arcanine EX (yes I have one). I'm not really going to play with it. It's just nice to look at ^^

[PokeMontoya]

RK9 is toatlly playable there are more than plenty of ways to run it I plan to play it and win. Hey Mewstor I would prolly be wiling to pay ya $30 for yours. Thats how bad I want it

[Flare Starfire]

i heard someone at a Pre got 150$+ in cards though, still its alot.

Lol- that was probably me. News of my "bad trade" is getting around really fast! And yes, it is true. I traded 2 Blastoise EX, 1 Venusaur EX, 1 Charizard EX, 1 Lugia EX and 1 Electrode EX for Arcanine EX, 1 Jirachi, 1 Cursed Stone, 2 React Energy (1 RH) and a Solrock. Was it way overkill? Absolutely! Anyone who knows me however knows I've been waiting on Arcanine EX for ages and I needed one to translate for my 4 Japanese Arcanine EXs (1 from Worlds 05). So, I got what I wanted, and my deck is ready to roll.

I don't think you're going to get such a generous trade from anyone else though... unless they like arcanine as much as I do! *laughs*

More on the topic lines, Arcanine is probably going to be a 30-40+ dollar card.

[Curry]

rk9 is the lugia of this set. nuf said

[blastoise1992]

woop de do! RK9 is teh Roxxors!!!! It can be 2hko by most pokemon, and it can 2hko most pokemon. Sounds average to me. =/

[ryanvergel]

Lol- that was probably me. News of my "bad trade" is getting around really fast! And yes, it is true. I traded 2 Blastoise EX, 1 Venusaur EX, 1 Charizard EX, 1 Lugia EX and 1 Electrode EX for Arcanine EX, 1 Jirachi, 1 Cursed Stone, 2 React Energy (1 RH) and a Solrock. Was it way overkill? Absolutely! Anyone who knows me however knows I've been waiting on Arcanine EX for ages and I needed one to translate for my 4 Japanese Arcanine EXs (1 from Worlds 05). So, I got what I wanted, and my deck is ready to roll.

I don't think you're going to get such a generous trade from anyone else though... unless they like arcanine as much as I do! *laughs*

More on the topic lines, Arcanine is probably going to be a 30-40+ dollar card.

Holy god... overkill.
Why not wait a few days, and buy it on ebay and save yourself 120 dollars?

[Venusaur]

Did you offer all that stuff for it, or was it the guy wouldn't give up the arcanine ex unless you gave up all that stuff? Even just trading charizard ex for it would be more than fair.

[Flare Starfire]

Both very good questions, and here are the anwsers:

As for buying one off the internet, that was going to be my last resort. I went into the PR knowing that I was going to do my best to trade for the cards proxied into my deck using cards and not cash wherever possible. Since I'll be running this deck all the way through worlds whether is bomb or bust, the contents of my trade binder don't really matter too much. For that matter, if FRLG goes out of modified after worlds, this means the only card I really 'lost' in the trade was Lugia EX, as I believe when a card becomes unplayable in modified its value to me drops effectivly to zero. Very good question though.

And as for the situation on the trade- it was well known at the event that I would indeed "toss" EXs at anyone willing to give me what I needed to finish my deck, and I wasn't lying. The original cards he pulled out were 2x Blastoise, Lugia, and Electrode. I put in the Charizard and Venusaur because he said he could use them, and he's a friend of mine anyways. That pretty much sealed the deal and completed my deck. I'll be seeing him again in Modesto- I promised him if for some unknown reason the luck gods shine on me and toss me -another- Arcanine EX in my packs, it gets traded to him. (Presumably for a few of the EXs back. Either way, I don't need more than the 1 US and 4 Japan Arcanines I have.)

In the end, the card is worth what you can get for it, as the saying goes.

[Angry_Altaria]

Flare--Would that be TacC? I saw that trade ;p

[Flare Starfire]

I actually never got his gym name, I just know him from the Modesto CCs which he won and I got 2nd. But the entire room seemed to be commenting on it by the end since there were so many exs (read: shiny things) involved.

[ryanvergel]

It just doesn't seem very logical to do what you did. You could easily trade via the gym a lugia ex for a arcanine ex, or even a charizard ex for a arcanine ex, I'm sure a LOT of the people here would have done that trade in a heartbeat... but instead you chose to give a LOT of exsthat you didnt NEED to give... which defies the rules we use in trading, not to rip ourselves off when the deal is right around the corner on eBay, the gym, and probably other people at the event.

[Angry_Altaria]

I actually never got his gym name, I just know him from the Modesto CCs which he won and I got 2nd. But the entire room seemed to be commenting on it by the end since there were so many exs (read: shiny things) involved.
Yah, its him. Chris? :3

[carlossan]

I still cant believe that trade... next time think twice before you do things like that...

[Flare Starfire]

Ryanvergel: Yes, perhaps. But when the only exposure I have to events of any kind come at 3+ hours the majority of the time, you get your dealing done ASAP because you might not have another chance. As for other Arcanines at the event, there were 2 that I know of. One person was coaxed into trading an Arcanine EX and a Flygon EX for 8 unopened packs of cards. How, don't ask me. As for online trades and such... I tried to do the whole trade by mail thing, and it didn't work for me. The mail out here is far from reliable in the mountains. Too much drama for my tastes. And like I said on the money thing- cards spent at this point is much better than money spent. I'm sorry if this has upset the balance of trading power somehow, but I've already said I expect zero people to follow in my footsteps as far as that goes. Its a personal thing, and it should really stay that way so long as both parties left the trading table happy. (And believe me, I certainly did.)

[Flare Starfire]

I still cant believe that trade... next time think twice before you do things like that...

Seriously....just because I hold different views on what to trade for what... doesn't mean I have to defend it to the community at large. It is what it is. Perhaps you wish you were the one with the Arcanine EX? You would've gotten the same offer from me. "Whatever you need." I have very few needs, but I'm not afraid to overkill to get what I want, on the spot. It is what it is. I don't expect anyone else to act the same way, and I ask that you please respect the way I chose to do trades, at least. Thanks =).

[Daddiursa]

Your're not the only one going to great lengths to get Arcanine ex. I'm trading a sealed Team Rocket Return's booster box for it + ex's if shipping is less than $20... But hey, I want it. And I was holding on to the box to give away as tourney prizes, but I never find a date to run one, so I want to use it while it's still in demand (after all TRR IS one of the best sets in HL-on). So it's like gambling, if Arcanine ex is kept high in value all thru it's time in Modified, I can always trade it for good stuff. (Like Charized ex and Lugia ex always seem to get good prices at eBay... sometimes close to the price of a booster box itself), but if not.. well, I made someone else happy at least... (could come in handy next time we're talking about making a deal)

[Prime]

lol it's so funny. Before legend maker came out, everyone wanted Mew EX and Arcanine EX. Now when the set comes out, we've had two threads pretty much showing that the two cards aren't half as good as we thought they are. They are both nice, but all those people who traded for the japanese ones might be rethinking their actions.

Arcanine EX is nice, it's cool, but it will in no way be the new big force of the format.

[Flare Starfire]

I know I won't be. Some of us want Arcanine so we can play Arcanine...cause he's Arcanine. Us fans are weird like that though, don't mind us. ;)

[Gatsu]

i gave away a Jpn Arcanine EX for a near mint Tv reporter....







































Foil!!!

[ludicolous]

big stump has a greater effect on the format than any ex premiered in this set.

[SomethingElse]

arcy ex's have been going for a solid 35ish on ebay, so i'd value them at 30 once the set's "out"

[TheDarkTwins]

I agree with SomethingElse...

Drew

[Prime]

..and once people figure out that it's totally overated, I suspect that price will go down about $10.

[carlossan]

yes prime it is overrated... so look at my new topic.. hehe

[David's Confused Pokedad]

Just another beautiful cold day but some hot trades. First we go pick up our yugioh prerelease cards since my son still plays . Then we look for the people that no longer play pokemon and try to get good deals on the cards they have left. Then we go to a local card store that has a main business of yugioh and baseball but gets two boxes of pokemon for people like me. He likes to open the packs and sell the cards separately. All the foils go in one tray and all the other cards and treated as commons. He used to sell those for a nickle but now they are 10 whole cents. I always look there first since he has trainers like rare candy and Giant stump and react energy in the 10 cent cards. Oh I pick up a strange cave with the other trainers I mentioned. My son looks at a few foils and thinks they are the same old unlimited that he has seen time and time again So he puts them up. But I ask the guy if he put in any thing new. He says I don't think so and then I look anyway. They go from $1 to $4 dollars. I find an ARCANINE EX mint at $3.00 He says since I have been a good customer I can have the ARCANINE EX for $2.50 and the trainers for free. I wait to show the cards to my son when we are like a mile down the street so the guy can't here a big YAHOO out of my son.

[PokeMontoya]

lol it's so funny. Before legend maker came out, everyone wanted Mew EX and Arcanine EX. Now when the set comes out, we've had two threads pretty much showing that the two cards aren't half as good as we thought they are. They are both nice, but all those people who traded for the japanese ones might be rethinking their actions.

Arcanine EX is nice, it's cool, but it will in no way be the new big force of the format.
I have aboslutly no regrets for getting my K9's traded a lugia for one at PR and traded 2 trode EX with 2 wobba and 2 desert ruins for a JPN RK9 and 2 stumps I still need a 3rd one if anyone is willing Im offering $30

[blastoise1992]

..and once people figure out that it's totally overated, I suspect that price will go down about $10.
I just got 30$ for mine!
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Just another beautiful cold day but some hot trades. First we go pick up our yugioh prerelease cards since my son still plays.

YGO? and Pokemon. Tsk Tsk. :nonono:

J/K :lol:

[Prime]

Cool deal Blastoise1992, awesome actually. Arcanine EX is still the hot card right now. I think after States the popularity will fall, and the price will too. Now if a deck is found with Arcanine EX and it's a big contender in the format(which I doubt), the popularity might stay the same. I doubt it though.

[blastoise1992]

Once people come to the conclusion that its NOWHERE near as good as they think, it'll drop. I don't know whats so good about a pokemon that 2HKO's most pokemon, and gets 2HKO'd by most. Arcanine is mediokre at BEST.

[PokeMontoya]

Once people come to the conclusion that its NOWHERE near as good as they think, it'll drop. I don't know whats so good about a pokemon that 2HKO's most pokemon, and gets 2HKO'd by most. Arcanine is mediokre at BEST.
Well with the right disruption and the correct set up its hard to stop. I took a really well built Walrein EX deck down to last prize before I had to give in to it. so even though I was completly weak to a deck I was able to battle it out as opposed to just saying "Oh yay Water I conceede" And Im still offering $30 for an RK9 Come on someone take my MONEY!!

[Prime]

I definitely want some Arcanine EX of my own, I just won't be paying anymore than $15 for them. Guess I won't be getting any for a while, huh? LOL

[Flare Starfire]

2.50 for an arcanine.... thats quite the deal!

[Flaming_Spinach]

Arcanine-ex for $2.50?

I'll take a hundred!

[PokeMontoya]

"well made walrein ex deck"...
No wonder you're doing so well, you're playing [bad] decks.
kid was in a different age group the concept of the deck is solid and the way he played it was very smart. Just because you dont like a card doesnt make it infeiror.

[PokePop]

...retarted...
Kind of ironic to misspell the word "retarded", isn't it?

In any event, using that word in reference to another member or their actions falls under bashing other members, which is against the rule.
Consider this a warning.

[ryanvergel]

Maybe I shouldn't type at 8am anymore...after staying up all night.
Just because you like a card, doesn't make it superior. Walrein sucks, that's been established. If that guy likes using inferior cards, that's all good- but to think that using those kinds of results to establish a point won't have much merit.

My Flail-Master deck(totodile, spinda, slakoth) totally went 10-0 yesterday. Who cares if I beat Turbo Dunsparce, Torchic Star Superstar, and The Monkey Deck(aipom), to get those results.

[PokeMontoya]

The only part of walreain that sucks is the weakness which will be remedied by rayquaza from HP adn you actually played it you might have seen why it was good. Id explain it but then you would just shoot down the stratagy anyways. If you want to debate about the quality of a card with me talk to me on AIM. There no reason to go name calling or making a kid feel bad about his deck that actaully beat a deck that if his set up wasnt what was (BTW was really good and he could get it consistantly) He would have gotten beaten very easily. 40 for 2 to any Pokemon is really a good attack and 150 HP is not as easy to beat down even with weakness. And mind also my deck was weak so the fact I was able to get to 1 prize means that RK9 when played right can even deal with beaing weak now a couple tweaks and It should be able to win.

[ryanvergel]

I don't think those subtle pros outweigh the heavy cons.

Cons:
Has two biggest weaknesses in played format. Steel(SMP, LBS, MetaNite, Mercury, a lot of stuff) and fighting(RL, Queen, Cham) that's a weakness to just about every single deck out there. And it's an ex, no orb.
Needs 4 energy to do subpar damage. 80 for 4 isn't very good. I'd rather use a queen and hit 80 for 3 and not have ugly weakness. Only time you do sufficient damage is when you're hitting someone that probably already killed you. Cham probably PP'd then swings for 120(ohko), queen can pretty easily hit for 70(and ruins=15), TTAR can very easily OHKO you with ruins in play. So you'll be doing 120 when you were probably already knocked out. Wow >_>
It's an ex, 2 prizes for taking it down, which isn't easy.
Ugly retreat cost.

Pros:
Cool body
Snipe attack
Second attack can do 120, but only to pokemon that OHKO it with ease...

I don't see this pokemon doing well in a format where EVERY deck has a pokemon that can hit it for weakness and take down your ex.
Maybe in Holon Phantom, but guess what, we're playing the here and now, not the future.

(http://pokegym.net/forums/showthread.php?t=29666)

[light_gengar]

Ryan... remember Kingdra? 2-1-2 line gets rid of that weakness. Possibly with someting like a 2-1-2 Pidgeot could be a pretty sweet deck, but that's just from the top of my head... (and I could be wrong, I'm willing to admit that)

Back on topic, I wouldn't PERSONALLY spend that much money on one card. If you really want to play with it NOW you are going to be running around 30 smackers.

[PokeMontoya]

Ryan... remember Kingdra? 2-1-2 line gets rid of that weakness. Possibly with someting like a 2-1-2 Pidgeot could be a pretty sweet deck, but that's just from the top of my head... (and I could be wrong, I'm willing to admit that)

Back on topic, I wouldn't PERSONALLY spend that much money on one card. If you really want to play with it NOW you are going to be running around 30 smackers.
the kid ran it 2-1-2 kingdra and then magcargo and HL Walrein smooth over then crush draw. stall with freezing breath early

[ryanvergel]

So, he wanted to have:
walrein ex
walrein hl
magcargo
kingdra

Three stage 2s and a stage 1. Why not just use rocklock if you want 3 stage 2s up and running. Not to mention with crush draw, you still aren't getting search power, so you'd want another magcargo up anyways =\

[light_gengar]

hmmm... wanna play smart? ever heard of rock-lock with pidgeot?

plus, it's still a new card. give it some time... there could be some good combos.

[ryanvergel]

hmmm... wanna play smart? ever heard of rock-lock with pidgeot?

plus, it's still a new card. give it some time... there could be some good combos.

So, he wanted to have:
walrein ex
walrein hl
magcargo
kingdra

Three stage 2s and a stage 1. Why not just use rocklock if you want 3 stage 2s up and running. Not to mention with crush draw, you still aren't getting search power, so you'd want another magcargo up anyways =\

Having fun?

[PokeMontoya]

his bench was 2 magcargo one crush draw and one kingdra then he had a speed deoxys tech mostly for dustox since the biggest safeguard used here is ninetaless the HL walrein takes care of that. Now if can get back on topic which version of K9 did you like if any?? what real reason can it not work other than getting beat by ludi which hopefully stump will help with

[ryanvergel]

It's not just ludi, there's a little deck called LBS. And by little, I mean huge.
Not to mention it has to 2hko a lot of pokemon, like queendom, rocklock pokemon, etc.

It worked in Japan, yes. Why? because they had SMP all over, we don't. Not even close to the amount they did. So, to expect it to do well, when it did well over there because of SMP, is rather foolish.

Is it a cool card? Yeah, it can be pretty nice. But it's so solidly overrated.
I see offers like latios*, lugia ex, and blissey ex for TWO arcanine, which is pretty absurd. The card is way overpriced and overrated.

best version of arcanine? probably straight with lunasol.

[Miamisportsfan45]

..and once people figure out that it's totally overated, I suspect that price will go down about $10.

I agree with you

It's not just ludi, there's a little deck called LBS. And by little, I mean huge.
Not to mention it has to 2hko a lot of pokemon, like queendom, rocklock pokemon, etc.

It worked in Japan, yes. Why? because they had SMP all over, we don't. Not even close to the amount they did. So, to expect it to do well, when it did well over there because of SMP, is rather foolish.

Is it a cool card? Yeah, it can be pretty nice. But it's so solidly overrated.
I see offers like latios*, lugia ex, and blissey ex for TWO arcanine, which is pretty absurd. The card is way overpriced and overrated.

best version of arcanine? probably straight with lunasol.

Whats LBS stand for? Seems Like a good deck its gonna be popular

[Flaming_Spinach]

Whats LBS stand for? Seems Like a good deck its gonna be popular

Lugia-ex/Blastoise-ex/Steelix-ex/Holons Electrode

[Prime]

It's really popular at the moment. Doesn't it just surprise you how one new card can make a semi-mediocre old pokemon like the new big thing?

[bilboh bekkkins]

LBS is also called binder MSF 45....

I went crazy collecting those Arcanines... but i'm starting to realize they aren't too great... it's so funny how so many people want them..I can get them taken off my hands way too easily! also when up against walrein which many people at my league are playing it gets pwnd no problem!

[carlossan]

poor arcanine lol

[ryanvergel]

It's really popular at the moment. Doesn't it just surprise you how one new card can make a semi-mediocre old pokemon like the new big thing?

What semi-mediocre new pokemon?

[PokeMontoya]

RK9 sells at our leagues store for $25

[carlossan]

I bought one yesterday for $15

[Prime]

What semi-mediocre new pokemon?

Well I saidd semi-mediocre old pokemon, but I was refering to Blastoise EX, which didn't see very much play at all but with Holon Electrode/Magneton, becomes like one of the most popular cards in the format.

[Skarmbliss]

arcanine ex is now $30 just because alot of people like to use him in their decks