List of City Championship Locations/Dates [Archive]

SteveP

01/10/2004, 02:31 PM

Edit-Due to the possible addition of more sites and also the possible changes of dates and times due to many conflicts of close locations,it will be easier and also safer to just provide the link to the Pokemon Organized Play City Championship location page.We will also supply the link to Yoshi`s map.Please click the links below!

Thanx!

`SteveP and `Sensei

City Championship Locations (http://op.pokemon-tcg.com/events/event_locator.asp?event_type=1&location=north_america)

Yoshi`s City Championship Site Map (http://pokewatch.nick15.com/pirn/2004cc.jpg)

Sensei

01/10/2004, 02:38 PM

Good idea Steve.I was actually going to do this and sticky it at the top once we got a finalized list since there is still 5 days left to apply and there may be some conflicting dates that need changing.The list we got was a preliminary one.My date is in conflict with a nearby store(Dream Wizards in Md.) so I`m asking for a change in date.

`Sensei

p.s.It`d prolly be easier to read in one post instead of several.:)

SteveP

01/10/2004, 02:47 PM

That's it. Like 'Sensei said, some of these dates will change and more locations will be added.

'Sensei, feel free to post the "preliminary" store locations and start times. I got a printed copy of the email, so I don't want to type in all that info. Thanks.

Sensei

01/10/2004, 03:00 PM

Yeah,I know how ya feel.I originally tried to c&p it into Word for my own copy and the layout did not work.I wasn`t exactly looking forward to typing all that info by hand....I`ll also prolly edit all your posts into one for ease of readability if you don`t mind.

A word of reminder to everyone,as Steve and I pointed out,these are preliminary.There will probably be changes to dates and also I`m sure there will be more places added since there is still time for apps to be sent in.I was told today that a Richmond,Va. store was thinking of applying.Well,they and anyone else have 5 days and counting...Hurry up!;)

`Sensei

Edit-Also note that these times may be START times,not sign up times.It`d be a good idea to check with whoever is running the event when sign in time is.Always get there early so the event can get started on time.

professorbix

01/10/2004, 03:02 PM

the location in Lebanon Pa has been put on the list for a schedule change from 2/7/04 to 2/14/04 due to a conflict with the location ib Blue Bell.

Sensei

01/10/2004, 04:17 PM

the location in Lebanon Pa has been put on the list for a schedule change from 2/7/04 to 2/14/04 due to a conflict with the location ib Blue Bell.

I put it subject to change.

If anyone notices any mistakes or knows of official changes,please let us know and Steve or I will update it.

`Sensei

Gym Leader Blaine

01/10/2004, 05:04 PM

West Valley City, UT - 3/13 Game Den@??(This isn`t correct)

Steve it is correct and it starts at 10am, I have not idea why they didnt put it in the email.

I know PUI is still looking at other locations, but these are the ones they have approved. PUI would like around 100 City Championship tournaments.

Sensei

01/10/2004, 05:11 PM

Steve it is correct and it starts at 10am, I have not idea why they didnt put it in the email.

I know PUI is still looking at other locations, but these are the ones they have approved. PUI would like around 100 City Championship tournaments.

I edited in your correction on the time.Thanx!!

`Sensei

RainbowRichards

01/10/2004, 07:04 PM

Mike - did you ask to have yours changed to the 8th? If so, and providing I get approved, that'd give us events on Feb 8th, 22nd, and 31st! (plus whatever Richmond does)

Sensei

01/10/2004, 07:45 PM

I asked for the 8th or the 21st(people that travel can make a weekend of it if it`s the 21st-first going to mine on Saturday,then going to Laurels on Sunday).I told Steve I was flexible with those dates.

`Sensei

BJJ763

01/10/2004, 08:34 PM

Millford, MA - 2/21 TJ Collectibles@1:00am(is this correct?)
Registration time is at 10:00AM. Start time is 11:00AM

Sensei

01/10/2004, 08:38 PM

Registration time is at 10:00AM. Start time is 11:00AM

Ah,so they left out the one(I kinda figured that but wanted to make sure).I`ll edit it.

`Sensei

mysterioustrainer

01/10/2004, 10:08 PM

Pablo

01/10/2004, 10:58 PM

yay, 3 in Mexico, 2 which i can easily get to, thanks for posting this Steve.

DaytonGymLeader

01/10/2004, 10:59 PM

mysterioustrainer

01/11/2004, 08:07 AM

Myst, I believe the Medalion is awarded ONLY if you get 24 or more players at an event. Also, I don't think the TO info regarding compensation was public consumption (as it wasn't for Pre-Releases). There should be some date changes for Delaware/Parma as well. 11AM for the Dayton event is registration start. 1st round starts at 12:15PM.
All prizes for the players are avalable to players if there is more than eight players at the event. The organizers bonus, I believe is just for the organizer. It is not for the players.

Rainbowgym

01/11/2004, 08:17 AM

Can anyone send me the TO info for the City tournaments.
In case we get them, we can compare if this time everything goes equal.
Also needed any compensations for TO or whatever.

yoshi1001

01/11/2004, 08:23 AM

"La Crosse, WI - 2/8 River City Hobbies@1:00pm"

Yes! However, I am a bit concerned about being the day after Ames and Brookfield.

By the way, there are 69 events so far.

Sensei

01/11/2004, 08:41 AM

Steve(SP) and Steve(DGL),I updated that info for you guys.

`Sensei

GreatFox

01/11/2004, 12:52 PM

"Los Angeles, CA - 3/6 Ruben F. Salazar Park@11:00am" :eek:

I'm helping orginize and run this one and this is how I found out about it... Good thing we're having it on March. :D

Adv1sor

01/11/2004, 01:10 PM

Also I should note:

Prizes for players (for each age division):
First gets a box, medalion, and vip package (to claim at the state championship), second gets 1/2 box, third and fourth gets a 1/4 of a box.

Am I understanding this right?

A full set of prizes for each age division?

That would mean three medalions, three VIP packages, and six boxes of product per tournament.

Is there a minimum number of players per age group or a minimum number per tournament?

Sensei

01/11/2004, 01:40 PM

Am I understanding this right?

A full set of prizes for each age division?

That would mean three medalions, three VIP packages, and six boxes of product per tournament.

Is there a minimum number of players per age group or a minimum number per tournament?

That is correct.Each age group gets these.The VIP package is awarded at the state championships-don`t show for that and it won`t be awarded.The only stumbling block to the VIP packages is if someone who won a CC participates in another CC and wins 1st place again,the VIP package will NOT trickle down as per Steve.Sigh...

`Sensei

meganium45

01/11/2004, 01:40 PM

St. Peters, MO date subject to change

Will let you all know

M45

Sensei

01/11/2004, 01:43 PM

St. Peters, MO date subject to change

Will let you all know

M45

St.Peters?There is only St.Charles and St.Louis on the list.;)

`Sensei

SteveP

01/11/2004, 04:15 PM

RainbowRichards

01/11/2004, 04:45 PM

As I understood it, all events have a 24-player minimum requirement (though how this would be enforced is puzzling).

Sensei

01/11/2004, 04:56 PM

The only real requirement is to have at least 8 people.If there are less than 8,then the event can be run but not sanctioned and no VIP package.8 or more and it is sanctioned and the VIP will be awarded to the 1st place winner(at the State Championships).

`Sensei

TheDeuce

01/11/2004, 05:10 PM

Couple questions, hoping someone knows the answers...

- Say you win a city championship in Oklahoma, but go to the state championships in Texas, do you still get the VIP Package, or would you have to go to Oklahoma's State Championships to get the VIP Pack?

- Since the prizes don't "trickle down", If you win 2 City Championships, you actually get 2 VIP packs?

RainbowRichards

01/11/2004, 05:17 PM

The only official info I've seen about the prizes for city championships is at Pokemon-TCG.com at:

http://op.pokemon-tcg.com/premier_events.html

There's an implied statement that championships of 24 or more players will get the Nintendo-supplied prizes (including the VIP package), but that's only speculation (unless someone can provide another official statement from Nintendo). Here's that excerp from the URL above that I'm talking about:

This from the CC FAQs on who supplies the prizes:

Q: Where do the prizes come from?
A: Pokémon will provide product and medallions for prize support, and any accepted City Championship TO is encouraged to pick up extra prizes if necessary for large events.

Mike, I was remembering this from the Premier Events home:

"Each tournament will consist of at least 24 players, and prizes will be awarded to the top players in each of three age categories: 10 and under, 11 - 14, and 15 and up."

This was one reason I hesitated at first to apply, I wasn't sure i could draw 24 players. Now I'm pretty confident that we will, as players "rotate" from one to the next in the general area.

Overall, it seems you're expected to have 24 players, and will therefor receive Nintendo-supplied prizes.

Of course, I don't have anything in writing at all...

MP Khym

01/11/2004, 05:32 PM

My humble opinion:

I don't believe that the information contained in the document attached to the e-mail sent to approved CC applicants should be posted in a public forum. If that was the case, it would have been sent to everyone. PUSA will provide the necessary information to the public at their own discretion using their own means.

yoshi1001

01/11/2004, 08:20 PM

For the heck of it, I decided to throw together a map of all the known CCs (don't get on my case if your red dot is a millimeter off or so).

http://pokewatch.nick15.com/pirn/2004cc.jpg

SteveP

01/12/2004, 12:58 AM

MPK, we DIDN'T post the attached document info in this topic -- only the info in the email body.

BTW, I personally haven't seen any info in the attached documents that discuss the award program, prize structure, and marketing information. Can anyone gleen that info and provide any pertinent info meant for public viewing?

old man

01/12/2004, 02:10 AM

SteveP & others concerned. This is copied directly from the attachment sent to the TO's.

What are the prizes?
The Prize package for the City Championship is as follows for each age group:
1st place: 1 Display of Pokémon-e TCG Booster Packs
2nd place: ½ Display of Pokémon-e TCG Booster Packs
3rd & 4th place: ¼ Display of Pokémon-e TCG Booster Packs

In addition, the 1st place player in each age group will receive a special City Championship Medallion, as well as a special VIP Package when they attend their State’s Championship event in April.

What are the rules about the VIP Package?
-Each player can earn no more than one VIP package
-If a player wins multiple City Championship events, the VIP package will not ‘pass down’ to the second place
-If the City Champion does not attend the State Championship, they will not receive the VIP Package

---------------------------
And as was stated above, it takes at least 8 players for the tournament to be sanctioned. More than 8 players then it's sanctioned & the VIP package is awarded in each age group.
Note it does not say anything about there has to be 8 players in each age group though, just a total of 24 players.

The Deuce:
To answer your question, you have to attend the State Championship in the state you won the City championship in, in order for you to get your VIP package.

P_A

01/12/2004, 04:30 AM

Re: Is this time correct? Gamer's Lair, Barrie Ontario, Canada, Feb 7, 2004.

Well, that would be hard to get people to come to a tournament that late. No, really the time should read 10:30 AM! Hopefully, since I've brought it to their attention, it will be changed before it goes up in the tournament finder.

Adv1sor

01/12/2004, 05:05 AM

I would be surprised, albeit pleasantly surprised, to find that we could participate in a State Championship outside your state you live in. This is how it was for MTG. States were only open to those who lived in that State. They didn't ask for ID at the door, but when you registered for a player ID I believe you had to list the State you live in so...

Any way you look at it this is going to be an exciting time for Pokemon!

SteveP

01/12/2004, 07:36 AM

City/State/National Championships are ALL open events, regardless of residence. That's what the ads in Scrye state. So, non-CO players can play in CO, and non-US players can play at the US Nationals. It would be pathetic to have outside players win States and Nationals, but it's possible and very probable I imagine. By pathetic, I mean it's a matter of pride for the players in their state to work together to be the best and strive to beat any outside challengers (without cheating of course).

I ABSOLUTELY agree with the non-trickle down policy for the VIP package. But, it still opens the potentional for fraud (i.e., previous city champs conceding to friends/family and beating out the competion). JMO. If a previous city champ shows up at our tournament, I plan to announce that to the players and hope that peer pressure encourages that player not to play. I'll probably even offer him/her a staff position (and support product) to encourage that person NOT to participate. But, if they insist, there's nothing we can do to prevent city champs at multiple locations. I wonder if States and Nationals will allow multiple champs (i.e., a NY or Mexican champ also winning the PA or US championship respectively).

Gym Leader Blaine

01/12/2004, 08:36 AM

I am wondering if there will be any GBA side events.

WeileMom

01/12/2004, 09:11 AM

Does anyone know if there will be a City Championship in San Diego??
Thanks,
Nicole

GreatFox

01/12/2004, 09:28 AM

The list is not final yet... after the 15th we will know all the locations. Also, some current location are still not exacly final yet. Some of them are bound to change Time and or Locations.

Gym Leader Blaine

01/12/2004, 10:28 AM

As I understood it, all events have a 24-player minimum requirement (though how this would be enforced is puzzling).

There was the minimum posted in the past that the CC needed 24 players so the winners would get the VIP package, but I think PUI moved it down to 8 from the feedback they got.

Gym Leader Blaine

01/12/2004, 10:32 AM

Say you win a city championship in Oklahoma, but go to the state championships in Texas, do you still get the VIP Package, or would you have to go to Oklahoma's State Championships to get the VIP Pack?

Your VIP package would go to your home state. So if you live in Texas and play in their State Championship you would get your VIP package there. Lets say I won a City Championships in Idaho, but live in Utah. My VIP package would be sent to the State Championship in Utah. This is how I understand it.

Since the prizes don't "trickle down", If you win 2 City Championships, you actually get 2 VIP packs?

No, you will only get one VIP package even if you win more then one City Championships.

RainbowRichards

01/12/2004, 11:38 AM

There was the minimum posted in the past that the CC needed 24 players so the winners would get the VIP package, but I think PUI moved it down to 8 from the feedback they got.

That's cool - a shame the info wasn't made public, though (I almost didn't apply because of that).

If anyone who knows could PM me one bit of info, though - is there ANY sort of cost to the TO for the prize support package (since my event will be free of admission - if approved, of course)? TIA!

JohnnyBlaze

01/12/2004, 11:46 AM

This is great and exciting news. I wonder what the format will be? :D In all seriousness, I have real concern with Point number #2. See below.

What are the rules about the VIP Package?
-Each player can earn no more than one VIP package
-If a player wins multiple City Championship events, the VIP package will not ‘pass down’ to the second place
-If the City Champion does not attend the State Championship, they will not receive the VIP Package

The 2nd point is huge. With such limited amount of places to play this will most definately have a negative impact. I can truly see here in the NorthEast this happening. I see the same faces from The Pokemon Center to Boston(Milford) Mass. all the time. With only 3 locations to choose from here in the North East and the same players (possibly same 1st place winners) all playing this is a bad thing. The rule should be that a winner cannot effect the outcome of another City Championship thus by making any kind of "cheating" by playing your best friend in the finals and purposefully losing(since you already won) so they can get a 1st place City Championship win. Believe me folks this happens. Say for instance Player A wins the NewCity Championship in the 11-14 age. Then Player A goes to OldCity Championship and knowing he/she has a strong deck to win, knocks out other players that had a chance to beat his/her friend. The scenarios are limitless here. The best bet would be that you can play in more than 1 City championship, but if you win one, you cant effect the outcome of another one.
Personally I plan on attending all 3 in the NorthEast and if by some chance I win one or my son wins one we will not enter another one and hurt someone else's chances.

I also think the terminology is bad here. Maybe use the term Regional instead of City. Because as we all know that WOTC retail stores are closing and this tremendously hurts the prospects for most to even attend a City championship. Most people in a given City would be territorial. Something like "Oh you are from New City why are you competing here in Old City." So at least if they were Regional the spectrum of "out of towners" coming to participate wouldnt be so bad.

P_A

01/12/2004, 11:47 AM

That's cool - a shame the info wasn't made public, though (I almost didn't apply because of that).

If anyone who knows could PM me one bit of info, though - is there ANY sort of cost to the TO for the prize support package (since my event will be free of admission - if approved, of course)? TIA!

Actually, I wouldn't mind that info as well. I've noticed at least one person mentioning a cost for participation, and I'm wondering if I'm missing something. I would like to keep the cost down for any participants if at all possible, or perhaps offer side events with my own prize support which will make the cost worth the trip.

Gym Leader Blaine

01/12/2004, 12:08 PM

That's cool - a shame the info wasn't made public, though (I almost didn't apply because of that).

The new info was just given with the CC acceptence email.

SteveP

01/12/2004, 12:29 PM

JohnnyB, I sympathize with your claim that quality tournament play in your area is sparse. The argument about allowing/disallowing previous Champs from competing in later Championships has been discussed to (too :) ) death. IMO, allowing repeat champions has the potentional to cause more serious problems than any benefits. I'm glad to hear that you and/or your kid won't recompete if you win a City Championship. That's great sportsmanship.

DaytonGymLeader

01/12/2004, 12:45 PM

GLB, the documentation that I received from PUI states 24 player minimum for VIP packages. If that's changed, they need to let us know. BTW, Side Events are up to the TO. Dayton will have some, as will Delaware and Detroit.

SteveP, everything I've seen states that there is no residency requirement for ANY of these events. However, this is probably subject to change.

I vehemently disagree with the non-trickle down policy for the reasons that you stated (too much preceived collusion). It's a good idea to try to guilt them into not playing, but if the greed factor takes over, good luck...remember GenCon? You're only going to get 1 VIP Package, so why screw other people out of them? Share the wealth.

meganium45

01/12/2004, 01:17 PM

I think the no trickle down rule is horrid.

I understand that they do not want a winning player setting the table for a second place player, but I very well could be travelling with 10 and under players who have already won a City (hopefully). They will want to play sanctioned events against new players, and, let's face it, go for the Box of cards.

The VIP package may not trickle down, but the box of cards is always there.

That will be incentive enough to win, not knowing what the VIP package is.

Talk to you soon.

M45

Host of 3, perhaps 4 City Championships, which means I will be at 5!!!!

Gotta love Poke Travel Season!!!

Feraligatr

01/12/2004, 01:18 PM

The documentation I received states the following:

1) Less than 8 players not sanctioned and no VIP Package
2) 8-23 players it is sanctioned with VIP Package

Gym Leader Blaine

01/12/2004, 01:24 PM

The documentation I received states the following:

1) Less than 8 players not sanctioned and no VIP Package
2) 8-23 players it is sanctioned with VIP Package

This is the same info I got. DaytonGymLeader I will forward the info I have to you. :thumb:

TeamBlackthorn

01/12/2004, 01:34 PM

Can't wait for the Charlotte and Winston Salem City Championships. Yes I can start getting in shape again. (Well, physically I need to do that for fencing to but that's another story). Jeff if there are any changes that you plan on making contact me via email or PM me, thanx. And unfortunately I do actually have a question if it's not a problem to anyone. Although I went to the NC Dragon prerelease I don't believe it was sactioned or if it was I didn't get a Player Number. Meaning I know when I show up to the City Champs I'll be able to get it from there. Just wondering though. In what form is the number? I mean-do they just give you a number you have to write down or an actual card kind of like the old DCI cards. I know it's a stupid question and I should be hung for asking it but my mind can't help but wonder. Sorry for any inconvenience.
-The Future Olympic Fencer
Nick G.

Scizor

01/12/2004, 02:05 PM

I am pretty sure it was mentioned before, but the format for the City Champs is EON RIGHT? If so, this looks sweet, already FIVE locations i can go to, i mean 4 in California already, i'm hoping for one up at Matchplay in Mountain View though.

yoshi1001

01/12/2004, 02:08 PM

Expedition-on, correct.

DaytonGymLeader

01/12/2004, 02:11 PM

Sorry all. I received 3 emails all with the same bad copy that had the omission of the 8-24 players.

Gym Leader Blaine

01/12/2004, 02:34 PM

Sorry all. I received 3 emails all with the same bad copy that had the omission of the 8-24 players.

Ill resend mine then.

Adv1sor

01/12/2004, 03:39 PM

If a previous city champ shows up at our tournament...I'll probably even offer him/her a staff position (and support product) to encourage that person NOT to participate.

This is one of the best ideas that I have seen!

Thanks Steve!

P_A

01/12/2004, 07:55 PM

If a previous city champ shows up at our tournament, I plan to announce that to the players and hope that peer pressure encourages that player not to play. I'll probably even offer him/her a staff position (and support product) to encourage that person NOT to participate. But, if they insist, there's nothing we can do to prevent city champs at multiple locations.

Steve P: I certainly appreciate your idea, and I agree to a point, but I must ask if it is necessary to "announce" that person's intentions to others. I would reconsider this, for their personal safety. I, fortunately have one of the first City Championships, so I personally won't have to deal with this issue, but I confess I wouldn't want to be the unwitting cause of violence to another. Your idea of a staff position and product would be much preferable. But in the case of a previous winner, not a professor, perhaps under the age of 15, attending with the rest of his/her family, what would you do then? I'd have a hard time even convincing myself to deny that person from playing, let alone suggesting it to their parents. You can't very well ask them to judge, so what do you do? :confused:

Scizor

01/12/2004, 10:38 PM

The whole thing with players who have won previous city championships being able to play seems ok to me. I mean i take myself, for example, as someone who doesn't get to play a lot and i am hoping to attend 2-3 of these tournaments, regardless of how i finish. I just want the opportunity to compete and I normally have to travel over 2 hours to do that and although i have to travel a good distance for some of these, it is worth it, because i know what type of players will show up. I think this is a good move by Nintendo, and besides if the prize package were something IMPORTANT that had an effect on the State Championships (MAYBE BYES - PLEASE NO) then they would not be doing this, just IMO.

SteveP

01/13/2004, 12:22 AM

Procrastination Alley, I suppose that announcing the previous City Champ could cause a rukus. But, whose fault is that? This is a touchy issue. Sure, players have the right to play as often as they like. But this is bad sportsmanship as illustrated by MTM's comments a while back on this issue.

Anyway, obviously I would do me best to persuade champions from playing again. And, if they didn't listen, I wouldn't make an issue of it at any tournaments I ran. I probably wouldn't make a public announcement, but I would probably easily be overheard by other players while trying to persuade the champion from playing. I'm sure the word would get around quickly.

Anyway, hopefully Nintendo will provide staff support compensation so I'll have some ammo to entice any possible champions from playing at our tournament (that is if they're merely playing to get boosters). Hey, I encourage any outsiders to come play in the Colorado Springs Championship. Locally, we've got some very good players. Anyone would be hard-pressed to take the championship out of the this city. :)

JohnnyBlaze

01/13/2004, 05:19 AM

farbsman

01/13/2004, 07:13 AM

The best solution, IMO, to not have previous City winners competing in another City Championship is to hold all the championships on one day accross the board. This is not going to happen so we will all have to deal with what happens. :cool:

Actually the best solution would be to trickle down the prizes like Wizards and Upper Deck do. But I mean why would you do what the more successful card companies do?

Gym Leader Blaine

01/13/2004, 08:15 AM

The best solution, IMO, to not have previous City winners competing in another City Championship is to hold all the championships on one day accross the board. This is not going to happen so we will all have to deal with what happens. :cool:

But maybe that would not be fair to the player that can not make it on that one day. This has happen to me in the past were tournaments like the SBZ were on a day and they could not make it to any of them. With the CC we have 4 in Utah, which were planned on different days with other TOs to make sure that they didnt conflict and that if someone could not make it to one, they would have three other chances to come to the others. As for a past winner playing in another CC, I will leave it up to the player. I feel it is the player who should decided not me. I am a TO to run event for Pokemon players to enjoy. I would not want to turn one way if they made the effort to come to the CC tournament.

Feraligatr

01/13/2004, 09:20 AM

yoshi1001

01/13/2004, 09:50 AM

By the way, if you're on AOL and applied for a CC, check your junk e-mail folder. That's where my acceptance letter wound up. Also, I made my map easiet to read.

Gym Leader Blaine

01/13/2004, 10:16 AM

I understand the issue with previous winners playing in other City Championships. But I agree with Gym Leader Blaine that it should be left up to the player. Since Nintendo has stipulated that they can participate I don't feel those players should be frowned on. It would be nice if the prize would trickle down since that might lessen the bad feelings if previous winners do play in other City Championships.

Here are my thinking on it. The VIP stuff is not passed down. If a CC Winner is battling for another CC winning the judge or TO can not tell him to throw the game so the other person can win and get the VIP package. Maybe if the player is good enough maybe he would decided that on his own. Just a thought.

Sensei

01/13/2004, 02:20 PM

The idea of asking former CC winners to staff is a great idea.The experience they would gain from being on the flip side would be a valuable learning experience.Even the younger(10-) ones could help in whatever capacity you felt they could help with.After all,we can`t always have just players.We need to have more people learn to judge/run tournaments and what better idea?Of course,you can`t force anyone to do so,but I`d bet that there would be some good sportsmen out there that would not mind giving others a share of the glory and volunteer to help out.To me,that would be the epitomy of good sportsmanship at the CC`s.

`Sensei

TeamBlackthorn

01/13/2004, 04:38 PM

Very well said Sensei. :clap: The players that are sportsmanlike are the ones that truly help out in the most significant ways but yet aren't always the ones to be recognized by society. They're the ones that take time out of their training to help the newer players reach a playing level. In my honest opinion everyone that I have seen on this board has shown these qualities(of course I can't physically see that since I don't live everywhere.) But to those players in my opinion and my own mind they are the true heroes and I give them a round of applause. If I had the time to regularly show up to tournaments in WS and Raleigh I would gladly take the time to help anyone that needed anything. So basically I do wish that most of the City Champions that will soon arrive that plan on going to more than 1 even when they've already gotten a VIP package to reconsider and think of other another thing to do. Actually, if that person would want to play in that tournament I personally ask them that if they win the package again. Pass it on to the 2nd place player because that's the moral thing to do. But of course that idea is in a perfect world which we do not live in. So very well said Sensei. Now I return to my Honors Chemistry work.
~Nick G.

SteveP

01/13/2004, 10:42 PM

The Admins deleted my post that revealed some info in the attachment to the City Championship Acceptance email, so I won't saying anything in this post about what that attachment stated. However, let me reveal something that was NOT stated in that attachment.

THERE'S NO MENTION OF STAFF SUPPORT COMPENSATION

So, the question is, will that change? Will the City Championship staffs get compensated by Nintendo? Or, will it be up to the TOs to provided compensation? Hopefully, those questions will be answered soon because I've asked my PTO to query PUI about this.

The idea to ask Champions to help staff at later City Championships will probably only work if there's some kind of compensation. (Crosses Fingers.)

DaytonGymLeader

01/14/2004, 01:25 PM

I wouldn't expect compensation from Nintendo as there was talk about Incentives for Professors to volunteer to help staff these events.

There's also some other rather important info missing - who's doing the sanctioning? Is PUI doing it as they have for Pre-Releases or are they leaving it up to the individual TO? I'm sanctioning mine today, just in case.

SteveP

01/14/2004, 02:09 PM

DGL, can you elaborate on "Incentives for Professors?" When my PTO submitted his City Championship application, he was asked to supply the Names and POP IDs of 3 Professors to help staff the event. So, I suppose when the TOs submit their tournament report, they'll supply the Names/IDs of those who helped, and hopefully PUI will provide incentives to those Profs.

However, what about Champs who are non-Profs and want to play again? If there's no tangible incentive from PUI or the TO, I expect those players will NOT choose to help staff.

WOTC learned from the mistake of allowing Champs to play again, and they promptly fixed it. I suspect PUI will do the same, after they're flooded with complaints.

Gym Leader Blaine

01/14/2004, 02:24 PM

I wouldn't expect compensation from Nintendo as there was talk about Incentives for Professors to volunteer to help staff these events.

There was for the SBZ, maybe PUI will put a box in or something. I know the question has been asked, but nothing has come back yet.

PokePop

01/14/2004, 02:54 PM

Maybe we should have a TO-only forum to get into these Compensation issues. But for the general boards, it should be discussed circumspectly.

GymLeaderPhil

01/14/2004, 03:38 PM

Maybe we should have a TO-only forum to get into these Compensation issues. But for the general boards, it should be discussed circumspectly.
Tournament Organizers should care about compensating their own staff. Some don't and its clear that this is an issue that should be addressed publically since the TO mailing list is not a publicly accessed place Pop.

Thus far the "trickle down" effect for staff compensation has failed at many events, with some PTOs retaining that product for their own personal or commercial use. A system needs to be established that rewards Professors and TOs for their active involvement in sanctioned tournaments... like judge three events, get a promo, judge fifty, here's a tee shirt. Will this roll out before City Champs? Probably not, but it's still something that should be considered.

In many respects, the City Championships are small Super BattleZones. I know that I recall recieving some limited compensation for my volunteering at the Skyridge one, but it was no more than twelve packs. Was compensation a requirement and provided for the SBZs?
-Phil

DaytonGymLeader

01/14/2004, 04:01 PM

Steve, there was a posting on the OP web site quite some time back that there would be some type of incentive for Professors to volunteer for the City Championships. Sorry, but I can't find the original posting on their site. However, it was never said what. It could be points towards Master Professor Status, could be product, who knows. The only folks who do, aren't talking.

Phil, if I remember correctly, there was a Box of Skyridge provided for Judge Compensation with the SBZs.

BJJ763

01/14/2004, 08:05 PM

Compensation? Isn't the fact that the event was run with staff who knew what they were doing enough?

But it is nice to get boosters. Our PTO was rewarding us a box and a half (like he does for his Premier Magic events staff).

But points? It sucks when only one person can get them.

SteveP

01/14/2004, 09:52 PM

GLPhil said it right. TOs report to PUI. Judges/staff report to the TO. PUI takes care of its TOs. (I wish I could say how they're taken care of without getting my post deleted.) TOs take care of their staff. Now, if PUI wants to help the TOs take care of their staff, like they did at the SBZ, then fine.

Anyway, bjj brings up an interesting issue. It's a virtue to desire to serve others. Those who live in a nobler realm will agree. But, (man, I'm gonna get deleted here) TOs will be compensated. For those of us living in this baser realm, TOs should follow the parable of the Unjust Servant. That is, they should justly treat their servants (staff) like their master (PUI) justly treated them. That's all.

PokePop

01/14/2004, 10:13 PM

Steve: You're not going to get deleted for saying TOs get compensated.
The devil is in the details.
It's not public info as to what that compensation is.
Do you want your paycheck published on the internet?
That is what you are doing to every TO by doing that.

old man

01/15/2004, 03:36 AM

I recall the post about Professors being compensated. There wasn't much details at the time, but it seems like it had something to do with earning points towards some goal, like a very special card or something.

Gym Leader Blaine

01/15/2004, 08:14 AM

Maybe we should have a TO-only forum to get into these Compensation issues. But for the general boards, it should be discussed circumspectly.

I like that idea. I know the PTOs have something they used. Something on these boards might not be a bad idea also and invite PUI to used them also.

marril2k

01/15/2004, 12:26 PM

I'm not really a TO but just want to voice off on the judges deal. For all the premier events, I drive my self a little over an hour down from New Hampshire to Mass every time to judge. I don't do it for the product payment, but because I like that feeling the players get knowing that they are getting a good quality event... that warm feeling knowing that they had a great time and want more. Sure the professor shirt, or product is nice, but its primarly the enjoyment from judging I get and I keep returning for. When I drove the 13+ hours to Origins last year, I played in only 2 events; the Professor Championship and Team Multiplayer Sealed. I spent the rest of my time either working the open-league for wizards or demoing for PUI. For the product or rewards? No. Because I enjoyed doing it... and the learning experence was great too (that gaming hall was cold for my shorts and sitting for 3 hours in a row @_@).

If they want to pay judges, they are more than welcome. But I dont think any amount of product/payment will overtake that feeling that is the true reason I return to judge every time :)

-marril

Gym Leader Blaine

01/15/2004, 12:47 PM

I know PUI was looking at a rewards program for the Professors that help judge the City Championships, but I have not see anything on it.

Rainbowgym

01/15/2004, 03:03 PM

For Global equalty, all (P)TO benefits should be public.
Some of you seem to be forgotten what happened at the pre-releases in Europe.
NO boosterbox for the first price, not a single piece of product for the Judges or (P)TO.
If you want this game to be played and honoured worldwide the same, you should publish it.
Now Local (National) distributors are making their own rules and because this info is not public people are being cheated/subordinated. (P)TO's overhere do the same job as overseas, so why should they be treated/awarded different. Players overhere play the same game, why don't they get the same pricesupport.

What's the problem. Who cares if the amount of his "paycheck" is published. The only one who can spend the money of the paycheck is the owner of it and in case of being jalous on that check, get yourself the same job.

The same applies for (P)TO's, If you want to be one,you can be one and "earn" the same benefits. You have to do the (P)TO job.

GreatFox

01/15/2004, 03:18 PM

Los Angeles, CA - 3/6 Ruben F. Salazar Park@11:00amDue to some scheduling conflicts, this event might end up changing Date and Location. I'll get back to you with the final details as soon as I get them ironed out. :mad:

Chrisbo

01/15/2004, 07:26 PM

Also, due to scheduling conflicts, Fountain Valley CA and Riverside CA will be switching dates. Riverside will be on Feb 21 and Fountain Valley (O.C.) will be on Feb 28 (pending PUI approval).

Thanks,
- CHRISBO

Pokedok

01/15/2004, 07:30 PM

I just talked to Sensei about the email that I got from Pokemon USA, Inc. So here it is Pokemon Organized Play will be sending Volunteer Support Stuff along with the Prizes for the City Championship.

SteveP

01/15/2004, 10:31 PM

I just talked to Sensei about the email that I got from Pokemon USA, Inc. So here it is Pokemon Organized Play will be sending Volunteer Support Stuff along with the Prizes for the City Championship.

That's interesting. So, who are these "Volunteer Support Staff?" PUI employees, or carefully selected Professors? Maybe they're scouting us out to see which places are best for the State Championship and/or Gym/Stadium Challenges.

Big Daddy Snorlax

01/15/2004, 11:22 PM

Uh .... Steve ..... That's STUFF, not STAFF. :D

BDS

psycodad

01/16/2004, 02:49 AM

Without knowing what the VIP package is, I hesitate to join this post. However, I know for a fact the post would be shorter if previous CC winners were not allowed to play in another championship. My only concern is for the states with only 1 CC. Imagine this, you live in Michigan and there is only one CC. It is near the boarder and folks from 3 other states could easily make the drive. Say a CC winner from Ohio wins in Michigan. Which state championship does he go to? Ohiio of course, it's closer. So @ the Michigan State Championship, no one gets the VIP. Does that make sense? Am I missing something here?

P_A

01/16/2004, 03:25 AM

That's interesting. Not sure what that might be, but all the judges AND the organizer will share at our CC. Let's face it, we all got into this game for the fun of it. Those of us that applied for a CC WANTED to do this. We wanted to do it without hearing anything about compensation, or perhaps you could say "incentives". Those of us here doing the CC for Barrie, Ontario Canada are all good friends. If we desire to help each other, while we judge a tournament to help even more, then so be it. That doesn't mean that others should be compelled to do the same, perhaps guilted into something they don't want to do. On a side note, I figure I've given away a lot of my money, my time, and my cards, maybe even more than anyone here in the Barrie area. I could be wrong on that, ... in fact I even hope I'm wrong on that. It's nice that some recognition is finally happening. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying I deserve this, but I certainly appreciate it none the less. If either of the other professors in our league was accepted to organize this city championship, I'm sure we'd share anyway. I just feel that what each individual tournament organizer does is his/her business. There's my 2 cents, for what it's worth.

SteveP

01/16/2004, 03:27 AM

farbsman

01/16/2004, 04:24 AM

Stuff, not Staff. Man, am I relieved. One letter makes a WORLD worth of difference.

psychodad, I thought I heard someone mention that CC VIP packages would be delivered to the respective State Championship in which the CC occured. That would certainly make things interesting for those who drove "all night" just to play and win a CC. They'd have to do it again just to pick up their VIP package. Wouldn't it be funny if that same person won a CC "on the road," then later won their local CC? Because of the single-VIP policy, they'd have to go back on the road to pick up their VIP package, if they wanted to collect.

So, maybe there is a bit of a "de-incentive" for players to win multiple championships, especially if they don't get to "pick and choose" where they can pick up their one-and-only-one VIP package. :cool:

From what the PTO's were told, the VIP package goes to the State Championship in which the player lives. I am kinda curious what happens if you are from a state without a state championship. Since PTO's are running the State Championships, what about the states without one? I mean I know there are states that haven't had prerelease tournaments. So that means they have no PTO. So what do those players do?

Oh and Rainbowgym, we can't publish what the PTO's get for the tournaments, it is against our contract with Pokemon USA. They probably should have had the TO's for the CC sign the same thing.

Gym Leader Blaine

01/16/2004, 08:23 AM

Gym Leader Blaine

01/16/2004, 08:29 AM

I am kinda curious what happens if you are from a state without a state championship. Since PTO's are running the State Championships, what about the states without one? I mean I know there are states that haven't had prerelease tournaments. So that means they have no PTO. So what do those players do?.

From what I was told what PUI would like is that if a state has even one City Championship then it will have a State Championship. Even if that means having PTOs from other area come and run it. This might change from what I was told last month though, but that is what I have heard so far.

RainbowRichards

01/16/2004, 08:36 AM

So, has anyone that applied between the original deadline and the new one (yesterday) heard back on their apps?? :)

farbsman

01/16/2004, 08:36 AM

From what I was told what PUI would like is that if a state has even one City Championship then it will have a State Championship. Even if that means having PTOs from other area come and run it. This might change from what I was told last month though, but that is what I have heard so far.

That is logical. I mean kinda dumb to have a City Championship and not have a State to go to. Hopefully what you heard is true. :cool:

farbsman

01/16/2004, 08:38 AM

So, has anyone that applied between the original deadline and the new one (yesterday) heard back on their apps?? :)

I applied for 3 more (after the original one I applied for) City Championships since the original deadline and haven't heard back on any of them.

Gym Leader Blaine

01/16/2004, 08:49 AM

That is logical. I mean kinda dumb to have a City Championship and not have a State to go to. Hopefully what you heard is true. :cool:

So do I, and Im sure it will happen, but Im sure PUI is not worring about it for the reason they have the City Championships and Team Magma VS Team Aqua Prerelease to get through first before starting on how State is going to work.

farbsman

01/16/2004, 08:54 AM

Tournament locator is up, it is at Click here for City Championship Locator (http://op.pokemon-tcg.com/events/event_locator.asp?event_type=1&location=north_america)

RainbowRichards

01/16/2004, 08:58 AM

And ALL already registered as sanctioned events! :thumb:

Gym Leader Blaine

01/16/2004, 09:00 AM

Tournament locator is up, it is at Click here for City Championship Locator (http://op.pokemon-tcg.com/events/event_locator.asp?event_type=1&location=north_america)

Man I just about to post that. Looks like PUI santioned the City Championship tournaments for us. So if you are the TO you can now input all the information on the Pokemon-TCG website about your tournament since there is a link to it with the locator.

farbsman

01/16/2004, 09:02 AM

WARNING Don't edit your City Championship info to include details, I did and it took mine off the list of locations!!

Gym Leader Blaine

01/16/2004, 09:19 AM

WARNING Don't edit your City Championship info to include details, I did and it took mine off the list of locations!!

:rolleyes: Ya figured that one out also. It took off two of mine and the third one is screwed up and will not let me edit at all.

Gym Leader Blaine

01/16/2004, 11:22 AM

WARNING Don't edit your City Championship info to include details, I did and it took mine off the list of locations!!
I lost two of mine, but they are back with the correct information so maybe it takes the system a little bit to update itself before it puts it back on. Chech you CC and see if it is back on the list also.

Big Daddy Snorlax

01/16/2004, 11:35 AM

One thing I noticed was a number of the tournaments, including mine, were sanctioned as Limited inshead of Modified. I was able to change that, as well as an incorrect time, and the link from the PUI web page remained. I didn't change any details however, and I resisted the urge to put a title on the tournament. It does seem like you can edit the basic data and have the link remain, but that's about all.

BDS

Scizor

01/16/2004, 12:58 PM

With everyday that goes by, it looks more and more like the VIP packages are BYES at the State Champ and that the State Championship gives away trips and invites to Nationals/Worlds. Anyway i am excited about this! FINALLY a constructed tournament tour, now we can really see what the best decks are.

Scizor

01/16/2004, 01:09 PM

I know your not really supposed to post back to back but i just read on their website (OP pokemon) that the winner of each city championship recieves a FIRST ROUND BYE AT THE STATE CHAMPIONSHIP. Hmm i guess i was right.

Pidgeotto Trainer

01/16/2004, 01:30 PM

Wasn't Nationals going to be open to anyone anyways? And Worlds was the invite only tourney? If that is so is there really a higher prize for winning state? Maybe a VIP package at Nationals.

Scizor

01/16/2004, 01:30 PM

Gym Leader Blaine

01/16/2004, 02:15 PM

DaytonGymLeader

01/16/2004, 02:29 PM

State Championships - April 2004
Each State will have a State Championship Event this April. The first place winner of each age division will win an invitation to Pokemon US Nationals at the Origins Convention. This is also where you can pick up your VIP package if you placed first in one of your state's City Championships.

So that means just invitations for winning states, not free trips.
I wouldn't go that far. We still don't know what's in the VIP package. Also, none of the Prize Structure (along with where and when these events are going to take place - outside of the generalized "April") has been announced, outside of the invite. Maybe there's a VIP Package there as well. Until it's announced, it's all blind speculation.

PokePop

01/16/2004, 03:59 PM

I sure hope that you are wrong Jermy. If it is just invitations they give out, i agree with what someone said about the game being dead in the water. Ohio is pretty far from ANYONE on the west coast, not to mention getting a hotel and getting into Origins is a COMPLETE joke. If they are going to do Nationals and Worlds in the East, then they should give trips and then it should be the same for next year, but instead of Natl's and Worlds in the east, they are in the west.

We have heard some info that there will be trips awarded at some of the events. And I think people will be happy with what will be awarded.

Just remember, PUI is running a ton of tournaments this year. City, State, & National, as well as Challenges and Stadiums and Worlds.

You can't expect trips to be connected to ALL of those various things.

RainbowRichards

01/16/2004, 04:05 PM

More venues approved for City Championships! Email from Steve:

Severn, MD - 2/28 Provinces Library @ 10:00am

:D :clap:

There are nearly a dozen more, but it's time to sing Happy Birthday to Benjamin!

Adv1sor

01/16/2004, 05:08 PM

Congratulations Professor!!!

RainbowRichards

01/16/2004, 05:14 PM

New venues (okay, there are only 8 with mine):

Virginia Beach
VA
2/21/2004
Comic Chest

Severn
MD
2/28/2004
Provinces Library

Asheville
NC
2/28/2004
Craftish Geeks

Lakewood
WA
3/20/2004
The Game Matrix

Federal Way
WA
2/21/2004
Sea Tac Mall

Renton
WA
2/28/2004
DJs Sports Cards

Ridgeland
MS
2/22/2004
Game Zone

yoshi1001

01/16/2004, 06:09 PM

Are those 100% official? In other words, can I put them on the map?

Sensei

01/16/2004, 06:13 PM

Yoshi:Yes.

`Sensei

RainbowRichards

01/16/2004, 06:39 PM

Hmm, I'm not used to having my authority questioned! LOL (oops, I have no authority here...)

Forgot for a moment, I'm a new TO.

That's okay, yoshi, you're forgiven.

yoshi1001

01/16/2004, 06:43 PM

Thanks Sensei. I wasn't trying to question anyone's authority-just making sure my facts are straight.

By the way, I updated the map:

http://pokewatch.nick15.com/pirn/2004cc.jpg

bulbasnore

01/16/2004, 07:39 PM

Yoshi:Yes.

`Sensei

So, do you know if that is the last of them...i.e. is that all the approvals from the applicationcs received under extension to the 15th?

TeamBlackthorn

01/16/2004, 07:54 PM

Wow, are you serious another NC City Championship. Dang So now we have Winston Salem on the 7th, Charlotte on the 21st and Asheville on the 28th. Whoa, sorry I'm just surprised we have three. Can someone assure me of this because my eyes seem their decieving me. Wait they always do what am I talking about.
Nick G.

BJJ763

01/16/2004, 07:58 PM

Each State will have a State Championship Event this April.
That's going to be pretty much impossible..... Maybe Each State that held a City Championship but not just each state.

Sensei

01/16/2004, 08:19 PM

So, do you know if that is the last of them...i.e. is that all the approvals from the applicationcs received under extension to the 15th?

The 8 new ones are listed as "received after Jan 7th" so there may be more on the way.We`ll have to wait and see.

`Sensei

yoshi1001

01/16/2004, 08:37 PM

"The 8 new ones are listed as "received after Jan 7th" so there may be more on the way.We`ll have to wait and see." You mean I gotta add more dots to the map? :( ;)

TBT: I'm not surprised. NC has a very good Pokemon following.

RainbowRichards

01/17/2004, 04:11 AM

I wasn't trying to question anyone's authority-just making sure my facts are straight.

I was just kidding...I knew that. Sorry if you thought otherwise.

mysterioustrainer

01/17/2004, 08:38 AM

That's going to be pretty much impossible..... Maybe Each State that held a City Championship but not just each state.
You're right. like try and get one started in Wyoming, I just don't see that happening.

yoshi1001

01/17/2004, 08:46 AM

Actually, there is a league in Wyoming, so there could be tournaments there.

RRichards: I know. I was just pointing out I was fact-checking.

RainbowRichards

01/17/2004, 08:57 AM

Can the link to the map be added to the first post?? (maybe at the bottom following all the locations) TIA! Oh, and maybe the new locations... TY

mysterioustrainer

01/17/2004, 09:27 AM

Actually, there is a league in Wyoming, so there could be tournaments there.

I question the legality of this league, the phone number doesn't work and I don't remember such a store called Anothny's card shop. Not to mention the league times are all messed up.

yoshi1001

01/17/2004, 09:45 AM

After doing some research (aerial photos circa 1994), it appears the location given is in a residential area. Very suspicious.

GymLeaderPhil

01/17/2004, 10:39 AM

After doing some research (aerial photos circa 1994), it appears the location given is in a residential area. Very suspicious.
It's giving me "This number has been disconnected." Who would believe a League location that is in a residental area, has no phone number, and these league times:

Monday: All Day
Tuesday: 9:00AM, 9:30AM, 10:00AM, 10:30AM, 11:00AM, 11:30AM
Wednesday: 4:30PM
Friday: 4:30PM
Saturday: 6:30PM

If this place is still running, it is an insult to the entire Pokemon Organized Play system. =/
-Phil

yoshi1001

01/17/2004, 10:44 AM

I guess someone should report them. Back on topic, however, I'm mailing out some flyers today to leagues in the area. Any other promotional ideas?

DaytonGymLeader

01/17/2004, 06:41 PM

Advertising on the cheap -

The local paper ususally has a Go section or a Weekend section. These event and festivity listings are usually at zero cost. Drop a line to your local paper.

Flyers, flyers everywhere. Local grocerie stores, libraries, card shops, retailers (Wal-mart, what have you).

Radio/TV - PBS/NPR affiliate? Local AM station? They usually have a "Community Calendar" type piece. It's also usually free.

That's all I can ping off the top of my head for now.

Sensei

01/18/2004, 01:49 PM

Just a quick note,the original post has been edited for convenience and safety.Please read.:)

`Sensei

mysterioustrainer

01/18/2004, 10:51 PM

I guess someone should report them.
I emailed POP, hopefully they will check it out. Since I am the closest Professor, I also plan to visit Laramie to see if this league really is a league.

Anyways back to the topic...

I have made advertisements for my store and for the public, I am working to find every store possible that has anything to do with Pokemon-e TCG.

I also made smaller sized flyers so that players may take one.

I have also requested that my store update their website as well.

Gym Leader Blaine

01/19/2004, 07:54 AM

That's going to be pretty much impossible..... Maybe Each State that held a City Championship but not just each state.

I have heard this, that for every state that holds a City Championship then it should also have a State Championship.

Gh0st11

01/19/2004, 12:27 PM

Hey, I live in Casper, mysterioustrainer. We have a shop here called Dave's Darts and Billiards here. Just to help you out.

DaytonGymLeader

01/19/2004, 12:50 PM

Just a note - the Parma event has moved to 2/28.

mysterioustrainer

01/20/2004, 08:41 AM

Hey, I live in Casper, mysterioustrainer. We have a shop here called Dave's Darts and Billiards here. Just to help you out.
No I am investigating a mostly likely fradulent league in Laramie. Which I got word back from Prof. Dave saying he is looking into it.

Gh0st11

01/20/2004, 07:03 PM

Yeah, heard about that--I thought you said the following: "I have made advertisements for my store and for the public, I am working to find every store possible that has anything to do with Pokemon-e TCG."

Yeap, there's one in Casper, like I said, but as far as I know, it's only active in M:TG and YGO. It might still be active in Pokemon, but I don't know.

And for the "legality of the league" thing, from what I've heard, the kid(guy?) probably lives in a house and his name is Anthony. He probably wanted to start up his own league, and just submitted it or something. I don't know, it's been a LONG time since I've played this game regularly...

WeileMom

01/21/2004, 06:07 PM

I guess there is no news of a San Diego City Championship yet?
---Nicole

Gym Leader Blaine

01/22/2004, 08:06 AM

I guess there is no news of a San Diego City Championship yet?
---Nicole

Sorry to say as of this morning I dont see anything on the CC listing for one.

Jim Ferrell

01/22/2004, 08:51 AM

Gym Leader Blaine

01/22/2004, 09:30 AM

I know the possibility of a player winning in a state outside of their home state has been brought up...

...So here is my scenario. Tentatively, I am planning to travel to North Carolina to compete in the Charlotte City Championship. Now, if I were to win, from what I have read, is that my VIP Package would go to my home state of Ohio. So here's my question...

Do I HAVE to play in MY State Championship of Ohio?

From what I have seen and been told your VIP package will be sent to your home State Championship. Im sure at the City Championships the TOs will take you name and information so PUI can work it out were to send you VIP package. This doesnt mean you have to play in your State Championship, but if you want your VIP package you will have to go there.

Or am I able to travel again to North Carolina for the State Championship? Or would I be elgible for one or the other? Both?

You can play in as many State Championships as you would like as long as they are on different areas. They are open to everyone to come and play, so you could travel to North Carolina and play there if you want, but the VIP package is sent to Ohio.

From what I have seen and been told it is sent to your home

I would think that I would have my choice on where I would like my package sent. Unless of course the State Championships have residency restrictions unless the OPEN City Championships...

From what I know of the VIP package they will be sent to the TO running the State Championship to be given out then and not to the players home. Your VIP package would be sent to your home State Championship , not to North Carolina you can not decided which one you want it sent to. This is what I have heard.

DaytonGymLeader

01/22/2004, 01:34 PM

OK, definite date change for the Detroit and Delaware locations as seen here:

http://www.pokegym.net/showthread.php?t=3886

Detroit is 2/21
Delaware is 2/14

marril2k

01/22/2004, 02:00 PM

From what I have seen and been told your VIP package will be sent to your home State Championship.

Just wondering... What if in the event your from a state like New Hampshire... where we don't have a State Championships. Say a player drives to the Maine City Championships and wins there. Will their VIP package be sent to the Massachusetts State Championships or the Maine State Championships (since both those states are the only New England states to run a City Championship). I know I'm getting into the "what if" questions but who knows what my leaguers will come up with when I hand out the championship flyers ;)

-marril

Gym Leader Blaine

01/22/2004, 02:18 PM

Just wondering... What if in the event your from a state like New Hampshire... where we don't have a State Championships. Say a player drives to the Maine City Championships and wins there. Will their VIP package be sent to the Massachusetts State Championships or the Maine State Championships (since both those states are the only New England states to run a City Championship). I know I'm getting into the "what if" questions but who knows what my leaguers will come up with when I hand out the championship flyers ;)

-marril

Marril,

None of the State Championships have been anounced yet only the City ones. I do know that is a CC is held in a state, even if there is only one, then they will have a State Championship. I could not tell you what will happen in the case if no CC is held in a state, and players play in another win a VIP packs what will happen. I guess PUI will cross that road when they get to it. My question is that if you have a good turn out at your league that you are handing out flyers, how come the store didnt apply for a City Championship for your area?

Sensei

01/22/2004, 02:30 PM

Date and time change to the Stafford,Va. CC.It will be on Feb. 21st.Registration is from 10am-11am.Will make a thread in the near future.:)

`Sensei

marril2k

01/22/2004, 03:07 PM

My question is that if you have a good turn out at your league that you are handing out flyers, how come the store didnt apply for a City Championship for your area?

I'd like to apologize in advance if this is starting to make this topic drift a little off course. Believe me, I do everything in my state for OP as possible. Being under 18, I'm unable to apply to become a TO and Sanction tournaments. But I am over 15, professor, and league leader (thanks to the store for at least allowing me to apply for a league status). The store I run the league at doesn't have enough space to host a tournament... we can fit maybe 8 players comfortably, but can fit 15 if we condense it elbow to elbow... another venue would need to be looked into to run such at thing (and the store agrees on this so it doesn't affect their traffic flow either). Also I was explaining the idea of running a Sanctioned tournament at the local gameing convention my store runs, but the store owner didn't seem to thrilled with the idea of POP Sanctioned events, and collecting players info to submit via Internet, etc. Another problem with sanctioning events, there isn't anyone up here that has a strong rules knowledge and lack of the want to help promote the game and run OP besides me. I would run tournaments if I could. I would run a City Championship if I could. But I'm under 18, and PUI set their restrictions just out of reach for me. But my quest for doing whatever I can for this game continues :)

-marril

Gym Leader Blaine

01/22/2004, 03:28 PM

But I'm under 18, and PUI set their restrictions just out of reach for me. But my quest for doing whatever I can for this game continues :)

-marril

It is a good quest to have, I wish you the best on it. :thumb:

farbsman

01/23/2004, 08:33 AM

New events have been added to the Tournament Finder on Pokemon-tcg including an event in San Diego, 3 in Indiana, and one in Sedalia MO

RainbowRichards

01/23/2004, 08:43 AM

farbsman

01/23/2004, 08:49 AM

Without going back and reading all the many posts - have we established that the TO can safely edit the CC tournament info (add details, etc) without being permanently knocked off the listing???

TIA!
:D

Yes you can now go in and edit your Tournament info without it getting removed. If you need proof check out any of the Indiana events. I just did it to all 4. :)

yoshi1001

01/23/2004, 08:52 AM

Speaking of which, POP added some new events to the list, which I have added to the map.

Gym Leader Blaine

01/23/2004, 10:50 AM

So how many total CC are there now? I know PUI was hoping for around 100 of them.

RainbowRichards

01/23/2004, 11:07 AM

Yes you can now go in and edit your Tournament info without it getting removed. If you need proof check out any of the Indiana events. I just did it to all 4. :)

TY!

Gym Leader Blaine

01/26/2004, 08:33 AM

So how many total CC are there now? I know PUI was hoping for around 100 of them.

K, to answer my own question there is 84 CC right now.

mysterioustrainer

02/14/2004, 11:31 PM

Just to announce, it has been decided that the Littleton CO will be moved to the 2/28/04.

Feraliblastoise

02/17/2004, 12:46 PM

Hi Everybody I´m From mexico and i´d like to report that the city championship hold at Distrito Federal Norte, was a mess, the TO (Abraham Carrillo) doesn´t know anything of tournament organizing, he doesn´t know nothing about rules, doesn´t have the support of pokemon professors, more info here http://www.pokegym.net/showthread.php?t=4463

I´ve heard that another City championship will be hold, and will be organized by one master proffessor, ives R. I don´t know what the R means, but it hears better, and also cheaper and say that will be according to what nintendo said.

Don´t you know what can be done, with this "Tournament Organizer" (Abraham Carrillo)

farbsman

02/18/2004, 11:59 AM

Feraliblastoise

02/18/2004, 04:58 PM

Abraham Carrillo's first tournament isn't until March 27th according to the event locator for City Championships. So this can't be true.
Actually dates were not updated, so it really was this weekend, and indeed it sucked, today, there is still a seconmd placed player who hasnt received even a congratulations.

old man

02/19/2004, 06:41 AM

Abraham Carrillo's first tournament isn't until March 27th according to the event locator for City Championships. So this can't be true.

Maybe you haven't noticed but it appears once the TO has completed a tournament that it disappears & doesn't show on the main listings.

DaytonGymLeader

02/24/2004, 02:42 PM

OK, as everyone's probably read, the Parma, OH CC is no more. We're currently working on getting this event to run on a different day somewhere in the Cleveland area. More info to follow as we get it.

DaytonGymLeader

02/24/2004, 10:22 PM

Cleveland Area City Championship’s date is March 27, 2004

Well it took 2 days of calling around but Margaret finally found a place. It is about 20 minutes from the original venue. She tried to get closer but with such short notice, the number of players and being able to have side events limited to where we could have this. The medals will be engraved with Parma, Ohio. We hope that everyone will understand. All attending should send a Thank You email to Stephen McLaughlin at tournaments@pokemon-tcg.com (tournaments@pokemon-tcg.com). Without his help this event never would have happened. Please direct any questions about the event itself to Steve or myself. Our email address is listed below.

When: March 27, 2004
Where: Independence Days Inn, 5555 Brecksville Road, Independence, OH 44131, 219-524-3600, http://www.the.daysinn.com/independence12775/hotelhome/ (http://www.the.daysinn.com/independence12775/hotelhome/)
Registration: 10:00 AM- 11:00 AM, 1st Round: 11:15 AM
Cost: $5.00
Structure: Age Modified Swiss
Format: Modified. Team Aqua Vs. Team Magma WILL NOT BE LEGAL FOR THIS EVENT PER PUI! Cards from the following sets will be allowed:
Expedition
Aquapolis
Skyridge
EX Ruby/Sapphire
EX Sandstorm
EX Dragons
Black Star Promos numbered 001 and up
Side Events: We will post more as soon as we get more details.

We will have everything set up so that those who want can get the Jirachi patch, so bring your GBA/SP, Ruby and/or Sapphire GBA Cartridge!

Please email any questions to Dayton_tcg_leagues@netzero.net

This event has NOT hit the City Championships Tournament Finder yet, so we need anyone and everyone to pass the word via word of mouth, email, whatever so that this event can be a success!