"Neutral Ground Pokemon Open"

[dtrain]

Date: Saturday March 17
Sign-ups begin @ 10am
Tournament will begin @ 12pm SHARP.
Cost: $5.00
Format: Modified Constructed
1st Prize: $300 Travel Allowance to Nationals

Location:122 West 26th Street on the 4th floor
Between 6th and 7th Avenues
New York, NY 10001
Phone Number: (212) 633-1288
Email: info@neutralground.com

Age divisions will be used during swiss rounds. The top players from each age division will create a top 8 cut. The amount of players from each division taken will depend on the total players in the division. The top 8 will be randomly paired. The winner of the top 8 will receive a $300 travel allowance. Everyone in the top 8 will receive prizes, including cool pokemon merchandise to be announced.

The top 8 will consist of:
Top 4 from Master
Top 2 from Senior
Top 2 from Junior

*Based on attendance, subject to change

[dtrain]

Updated with contact and location information.

[Bolt]

Top cut randomly paired, eh?

Is the $300 prize open to anyone who already won a State Championship?

[ShawofMordor]

im on that like whoa

[deckmaster]

Yes!Neutral Ground rules:pokeball:I love cash tournaments,and pokemon is a great combination.

[GaaRa]

YESSSS BABY i am there .... brian been gone for a gone for a minute ... but i'm back so ya better b ready.... ^_^

[Bolt]

Brian's been gone for like a week, I was next to him during top cut at Time Warp.

LIEGIRL.

[deckmaster]

YESSSS BABY i am there .... brian been gone for a gone for a minute ... but i'm back so ya better b ready.... ^_^

Brian!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Waz up? yo man please come friday and sunday bro we miss you man I want to play cards with you and the crew.

[YugoGV]

Hi guys its Anthony, Frankie's brother. After hearing this piece of good news, I decided to give Pokemon cards another shot, hey $300 dollars is worth trying for; good luck to everyone.

[Shellshock929]

I'm actually going to go to this.

[M_Liesik]

Age divisions will be used during swiss rounds. The top players from each age division will create a top 8 cut. The amount of players from each division taken will depend on the total players in the division. The top 8 will be randomly paired. The winner of the top 8 will receive a $300 travel allowance. Everyone in the top 8 will receive prizes, including cool pokemon merchandise to be announced.

I don't want to rain on anyone's parade, so please don't take it that way. Since the SEF of this tournament does not follow POP rules, it cannot be a sanctioned event. I'm not sure that it really matters to you or not, but I thought I'd put it out there so it didn't come as a surprise later if you tried to sanction it.

I definitely applaud you guys for running an event like this. Back when I still played Legend of the Five Rings one of the larger local stores ran a "Trip to GenCon" tournament every year, where players paid $20 entry fee. $5 of it went toward prizes for everyone that played and the other $15 went to first place. We usually drew 50-70 players, so the winner ended up with a pretty good chunk of cash to get themselves to GenCon.

[dtrain]

Bolt: Yes, open to everyone, even if you already won a states.
M Liesik: Yeah this will not be a sanctioned. NG is the best! The winner can use the $ for the trip and use what ever left over $ they have on other things. :)

[ShadowTogetic]

well, when I went to origins, I left with ~$600 and came home with about $250 (hate food prices) But at least the $300 can help out a little

[deckmaster]

I don't want to rain on anyone's parade, so please don't take it that way. Since the SEF of this tournament does not follow POP rules, it cannot be a sanctioned event. I'm not sure that it really matters to you or not, but I thought I'd put it out there so it didn't come as a surprise later if you tried to sanction it.

I definitely applaud you guys for running an event like this. Back when I still played Legend of the Five Rings one of the larger local stores ran a "Trip to GenCon" tournament every year, where players paid $20 entry fee. $5 of it went toward prizes for everyone that played and the other $15 went to first place. We usually drew 50-70 players, so the winner ended up with a pretty good chunk of cash to get themselves to GenCon.

Yes, we know.Neutral ground is good like that, they are the BEST IN GAMING, and hosts the best Pokemon leauge.

[EternalFire]

Frankie that is your opinion and I won't deny you that freedom, but I would hardly say they are the "best in gaming"... :nonono:

I also really have to wonder what makes you think it's the "best pokemon league" really. There are some major faults I would just love to express but won't say so here to keep this thread on topic. :wink:

[Pokemonplayer2020]

I would like to go but my sisters wedding is that day,sorry but family first.

[RAGECANDYBAR]

Neutral Grounds sucks but I'm still going.

[Magnechu]

$300 to the winner of each age group?

[ShadowTogetic]

I don't think so. T8 is merged

[dtrain]

Yeah MK your right. All age groups will be merged for Top 8 and out of the 8, the winner will get the $300.

[RAGECANDYBAR]

Yeah MK your right. All age groups will be merged for Top 8 and out of the 8, the winner will get the $300.

eww. You've got to be kidding. So what if there are 3 players in Seniors of Juniors? They will have to play the older age groups in swiss which= waste of money for lower age geoups.

[TheDarkTwins]

well, when I went to origins, I left with ~$600 and came home with about $250 (hate food prices) But at least the $300 can help out a little

Um, you left with money?? :nonono: that isnt suppose to happen. Your suppose to spend all your money and your friends money too. :lol: :tongue: :lol:


RageCandyBar - Way to insult a great idea, wow,


JMO tho,
Drew

[RAGECANDYBAR]

RageCandyBar - Way to insult a great idea, wow,


At least I don't brag about my mom! :tongue:

[dtrain]

Neutral Grounds sucks but I'm still going.

If anyone else has any problems you could e-mail Tony who is the Manager at NG at tony@neutralground.com.
Thank you.

[Captain Petey]

wow it suxs to be your jarrett :-P. That senior/master mix does make the top 8 sound very easy a free pass to the top 4 XD. That seems harsh for the senior kids that will spend 5 buxs to play in a tourney that would be a lot harder then a normal states for them.

[Shellshock929]

It's even more harsh if a Master plays a Junior, Edwin. Besides, I know like 2-3 people who wouldn't care.

[Captain Petey]

wait juniors too!? Thats a bit too much aint it o_0. Its bad enough we actually have to be facing aziz and jarrett but 10 year old kids as well!? Well if i manage to win a states before this im prolly wont go then cause i would most likely conceide to one of the 2 brats if i ever had to play them.

[RAGECANDYBAR]

i would most likely conceide to one of the 2 brats if i ever had to play them.

You are a true man! :thumb:

[Captain Petey]

You are a true man! :thumb:

Check that i will go just to beat you brat :-P. I meant i would conceided to master aziz cause of his "connections".....i fear him :redface:

[TheDarkTwins]

At least I don't brag about my mom! :tongue:

Nice comeback. :nonono:

Drew

[RAGECANDYBAR]

Nice comeback. :nonono:

Drew

Well, it's true lol. You kept on making Timmy say that she's cool lol. Soo funny.

[ZAKtheGeek]

Merged top 8 means you need to be undefeated to get in, right?

[Bolt]

Probably something like that, Zak.

My favorite part of this thread are the following kinds of posts:

"I really hate Neutral Ground. I don't like their venue or the events they host, and their TO is inexperienced. However, I will go because I can stand the venue, love the event and think the TO is a genius for doing this."

Lame-o's

[dtrain]

Merged top 8 means you need to be undefeated to get in, right?

Well it reallly depends on the number of people who show up to the event.

Probably something like that, Zak.

My favorite part of this thread are the following kinds of posts:

"I really hate Neutral Ground. I don't like their venue or the events they host, and their TO is inexperienced. However, I will go because I can stand the venue, love the event and think the TO is a genius for doing this."

Lame-o's

Agreed. Seriously people, I created this thread to let it be known that NG is holding a tourny for all of us since Kings Games is having States over there. Not for you guys to keep bickering. Lets stay on track. Anyway, 2 more weeks till the Neutral Ground Pokemon Open!

[TheDarkTwins]

Well, it's true lol. You kept on making Timmy say that she's cool lol. Soo funny.

It had absolutely no relevance to what we were talking about, but she is cool. I mean she taking me to Hawaii for a vacation during the weekend of Worlds. :biggrin:

Probably something like that, Zak.

My favorite part of this thread are the following kinds of posts:

"I really hate Neutral Ground. I don't like their venue or the events they host, and their TO is inexperienced. However, I will go because I can stand the venue, love the event and think the TO is a genius for doing this."

Lame-o's

Um, yeh, okay. Let see here Neutral Ground is sooooo much better than Kings Games by far. I still havent figured out why NG doesnt have states instead. So much nicer imo,
Drew

[EternalFire]

My only "bleh" feeling about this event is the combined Top 8. For some it's gonna feel bad knocking out someone younger than you who made top cut. I hope there's something to reward these specific younger players too.

As for my reasons for not being a fan of the store, it goes much deeper than just venue or TO. If you must know, IM me, since I won't say anything else about it here.

I have ideas to regenerate OP in NYC, I just need support from you guys. >_>

[Shellshock929]

Lawrence, just send me a message about it.

The venue for NG is alright, but my only gripes are the TO, other tournaments going on at the same time, and how the tournaments are ran.

I like Kings Games, but however, I also have some gripes about them too, such as the food, that you can't bring any in the store at all, which I don't like, the tournaments and how they're ran (whether if I am judging it or not, things turn out to be wierd), and the TO not being at the event when needed.

I have no problem with either store other than what I've mentioned. Call me a hypocrite, but that's my opinion.

-Peter

P.S. Rockefeller Plaza is way better than both Kings Games and Neutral Grounds combined, don't you guys agree?

[pikachual]

Rockerfeller Center was the best place....I agree Peter

[RAGECANDYBAR]

It had absolutely no relevance to what we were talking about, but she is cool. I mean she taking me to Hawaii for a vacation during the weekend of Worlds. :biggrin:


Yep I bet that's a weird coincedence that she is taking you to Hawaii that week:tongue: How much begging does it take? Teach me o master Drew lol.

I think Drew should be 2007's easiest person to diss.


I'm still debating if I will play in this. Maybe I can judge. *Prepares to get yelled at*

*food thrown too*

[Zapditto]

Yep I bet that's a weird coincedence that she is taking you to Hawaii that week:tongue: How much begging does it take? Teach me o master Drew lol.

I think Drew should be 2007's easiest person to diss.


I'm still debating if I will play in this. Maybe I can judge. *Prepares to get yelled at*

*food thrown too*

wow. just wow. bragging is okay though, especially when you're as cool as me. i mean, i am a professional skateboarder, have a new gf every week or so (okay i kept the last one for almost 3...), i have a car, and im still a professional skateboarder who can basically make a living doing what i love. wheeeeee self confidence rules....

tournament is a good idea, ill be there.

[Bolt]

If you looked at NG's schedule, I BELIEVE it said that the store is closed off to non-Pokemon for this.

My only "bleh" feeling about this event is the combined Top 8. For some it's gonna feel bad knocking out someone younger than you who made top cut. I hope there's something to reward these specific younger players too.


I'm currently WINLESS against Mikey's YOUNGEST brother. We don't give kids enough credit.

[Shellshock929]

Mikey told me he's not going, Josef.

[Bolt]

It's just an example.

[Shellshock929]

Oh ok. No problem.

[EternalFire]

If you looked at NG's schedule, I BELIEVE it said that the store is closed off to non-Pokemon for this.
So we get the entire floor eh? Who wants to bet me it will change back to "open" if no less than 50 people show up? I can almost guarantee that one... o_o

I'm currently WINLESS against Mikey's YOUNGEST brother. We don't give kids enough credit.
Well there's always the uber-skilled relatives of great players, so yea... :smile:
I guess I meant for those that make it and aren't the next Fulop, Seena or Martin. :tongue:

[Kingpin]

Hi guys its Anthony, Frankie's brother. After hearing this piece of good news, I decided to give Pokemon cards another shot, hey $300 dollars is worth trying for; good luck to everyone.

WELL, IT'S ABOUT TIME! JUST ONE QUESTION. I BELIVE THE TOURNEY IS ON A SATURDAY. DOESN'T THAT CONFLICT WITH YOUR SCHOOL SCHEDULE?

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Hi guys its Anthony, Frankie's brother. After hearing this piece of good news, I decided to give Pokemon cards another shot, hey $300 dollars is worth trying for; good luck to everyone.

WELL, IT'S ABOUT TIME! JUST ONE QUESTION. I BELIVE THE TOURNEY IS ON A SATURDAY. DOESN'T THAT CONFLICT WITH YOUR SCHOOL SCHEDULE?

[RAGECANDYBAR]

^ who are you?

Actually does anyone know? Or is another one of Frankie's

[Shellshock929]

Well, I am not playing. If I go, it's only to make trades.

-Peter

[Zero Hax]

wth? Is this legal?

EDIT: master aziz is here, at your service.

new england clam chowda son.

[GaaRa]

i'm going to this ^_^ i am BRIIIIZOKE ... i needs that dinero for ohizio ... ok i'll stop with the wierd slang that i dont even use on a daily basis >_> ... but yea i'm going ^_^

[Kingpin]

Charles Ortiz is the name. Pokemon is my game. An original league player since the Rockerfeller Center days and before that with Toys r Us. Anyway ask any of the NYC guys and they'll tell about me.

[RAGECANDYBAR]

I know you Charles. Peter told me it was you.

[JohnnyBlaze]

even though this will not count for ratings at this point 300 is 300 so you will most likely see me coming down for this. Never been to Neutral Grounds how is it?

[RAGECANDYBAR]

even though this will not count for ratings at this point 300 is 300 so you will most likely see me coming down for this. Never been to Neutral Grounds how is it?

Bad. They don't give a crap about pokemon. And they try to make up for it with dumb extra prereleases lol

[dtrain]

Bad. They don't give a crap about pokemon. And they try to make up for it with dumb extra prereleases lol

Why don't you tell Tony what you think he should do. I have his e-mail at the beginning of this thread. The least you can do is thank him for having this tournament rather then keep bad mouthing NG.

[deckmaster]

Probably something like that, Zak.

My favorite part of this thread are the following kinds of posts:

"I really hate Neutral Ground. I don't like their venue or the events they host, and their TO is inexperienced. However, I will go because I can stand the venue, love the event and think the TO is a genius for doing this."

Lame-o's

Yeah,Bolt I agree; kids these days, but hey, "its a mans world".Btw Charles my bro said he does not have class that day he will see you there woooooo.

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Why don't you tell Tony what you think he should do. I have his e-mail at the beginning of this thread. The least you can do is thank him for having this tournament rather then keep bad mouthing NG.

Hi dan, yeah, imo ragecandybar probably does not know whats wrong with NG (just let him be).NG is a great place, and if there is anything wrong the way ng runs the league they have the email to complain to.

[Shellshock929]

It seems that there's nothing going on for me this weekend, so I can play after all.

[ShawofMordor]

i am wondering how exactly this randomization process for the top 8 will happen.

[Shellshock929]

That's what I want to know too.

[dtrain]

i am wondering how exactly this randomization process for the top 8 will happen.

Added with how top 8 will look like

[EternalFire]

The top 8 will consist of:
Top 4 from Senior
Top 2 from Junior
Top 2 from Youngster


Err, that's supposed to be Master , Senior , Junior.

[dtrain]

lol fixed opps :)

[Bolt]

Is it gonna be like...

Master v Master
Master v Master Master v Master Master v Senior/Junior
Senior v Senior Senior v Junior
Junior v Junior

or something like

Master v Senior
Master v Senior
Master v Junior
Master v Junior

or what? How random will it be, exactly? I absolutely MUST know!

[ShadowTogetic]

or just MK vs Josef round 1. Like in ALL tournaments

[Bolt]

Actually, it's more like MK vs Josef in round 5 where if one of us loses, we don't make it.

[Shellshock929]

I still don't get how will it work. Hopefully the attendance is big.

[dtrain]

Is it gonna be like...

Master v Master
Master v Master Master v Master Master v Senior/Junior
Senior v Senior Senior v Junior
Junior v Junior

or something like

Master v Senior
Master v Senior
Master v Junior
Master v Junior

or what? How random will it be, exactly? I absolutely MUST know!

Random. It all depends on the attendence.

[Benlugia]

*exhales*
do i want to go?...hmmm...

[ShawofMordor]

My only worry is that the pairings will be "randomly" paired by some NG employee. That would make it very easy for someone to give them $20 and get to pick how the top 8 goes...which would very easily make sure they win the tournament.

[dtrain]

My only worry is that the pairings will be "randomly" paired by some NG employee. That would make it very easy for someone to give them $20 and get to pick how the top 8 goes...which would very easily make sure they win the tournament.

Not to worry. Tony, the manager of NG will be the one pairing the top 8 up.

[SD PokeMom]

If you want to make sure T8 pairings are 'random', I'd suggest doing something like drawing names out of a box, in full view of the participants: put each player's name on a card or somesuch and draw two = pairing #1, etc...

JMHO,
'mom

[dtrain]

If you want to make sure T8 pairings are 'random', I'd suggest doing something like drawing names out of a box, in full view of the participants: put each player's name on a card or somesuch and draw two = pairing #1, etc...

JMHO,
'mom

hmm good idea, I'll tell that to the Manager of the store. See what he thinks of it.

[SD PokeMom]

Even better: a (clear) fishbowl, instead of a box...

'mom

[ChristianOrtiz]

Is it gonna be like...

Master v Master
Master v Master
Master v Master
Master v Senior/Junior
Senior v Senior
Senior v Junior
Junior v Junior

or something like

Master v Senior
Master v Senior
Master v Junior
Master v Junior

or what? How random will it be, exactly? I absolutely MUST know!

i think it will be
Master Vs Master
Master Vs Master
Junior Vs Junior
Senior Vs Senior

then top 4

Master Vs Master
Junior Vs senior

in top 2

Master vs Junior/senior

Thats my opinion on what might happen..


My only worry is that the pairings will be "randomly" paired by some NG employee. That would make it very easy for someone to give them $20 and get to pick how the top 8 goes...which would very easily make sure they win the tournament.


yea i have a fealing that would happen.I dont think the junior and senior kids are going to play Imo. but What are the chances that 1 person will play Junior/seniors up until the finals....If i see that happening im calling shenanigans


Even better: a (clear) fishbowl, instead of a box...

'mom


Fishbowls are nice =).

[JohnnyBlaze]

I found out I'm going out of town this weekend so I will not be there afterall. good luck to all and report back on this thread the lucky winner!

[Bolt]

My win will hardly be luck! ;)

My only worry is that the pairings will be "randomly" paired by some NG employee. That would make it very easy for someone to give them $20 and get to pick how the top 8 goes...which would very easily make sure they win the tournament.

Anyone's free to correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't believe that bribery is an issue we'll have to worry about. I'm pretty sure there's some kind of rule in Pokemon that prevents it, even in non premier events. Either way, I haven't heard any case of NG employees accepting bribes in tournaments for favorable matchups.

Bad. They don't give a crap about pokemon. And they try to make up for it with dumb extra prereleases lol

If this store doesn't, then who does?

Aside from retired John.

[dtrain]

Tomorrow is the Tourny!

[Diaz]

do you think snow will hurt attendance

[ChristianOrtiz]

cool cant wait


edit: Yea it might

[xXxAnthonyGxXx]

if i can get out of my house, ill try and make it ....lol

[Captain Petey]

wont be going cause of the snow as well.

[Bolt]

It will DEFINITELY hurt. I'm considering not going.

[TheDarkTwins]

I am not going but it isnt because of the snow. I had NJ Devils tix but I had no one to go with so I am just gonna chill and watch the game and the NCAA tourney instead at home. I may do some cleaning also and other things, but I wont be there. I could get there even with the snow cuz I would of just taken the train to NYC and taken a cab the rest of the way. No biggie, GL to all that goes tho,
Drew

[Bolt]

I'd be watching the tourney too

IF MY SCHOOL WASNT DIVISION THREE.

D:

[EternalFire]

I'm only playing to win the $ and to prevent one specific person from winning. If all else fails, I'm going to the arcade for some DDR after that. Who's with me? :wink:

[Shellshock929]

I'm going since I want to hang out with friends. However, I am thinking about whether or not if I should play now.

[RAGECANDYBAR]

Here is the top 4:

1st Christian O. with Metanite
2nd Jarrett J. (me) with Lati@s
3rd/4th Frankie D. and Caleb

[pikachual]

Good job Christian....good job NY League guys

[dtrain]

Congrats to Christian for winning the NG Pokemon Open. And thanks to all who participated.