Murkrow

[Burninating_Torchic]

Even though the TFG isn't out in English yet, some figures are already being talked about.
Among those highly anticipated figures is Murkrow.
Its Whirlwind attack is INCREDIBLY broken, but then again, it's only about 1/3 of its spinner.
What are your thoughts on Murkrow?
Discuss.

[Psyco Pedestrian]

Well, it can move 3 spaces, it's fast, and Whirlwind is a really good attack.

[DarkJake]

One of the best that I know of

[supertyranitar]

Mukrow owns so much.

[Psyco Pedestrian]

Would Meowth go good with it?
It moves 2 or 3 spaces.
One attack makes you switch spots with the Defendind Pokemon, good for surrounding. They both move pretty fast.

[metricus]

so do they just role a big poke'mon dice to see what poke'mon thier gonna make broken

[Azure Kite]

well is there a place on the gym where people can read the rules? cause i have no idea how its played and i have my doubts about even playing it as i am...how you say....poor.:frown:

[LionheartEX]

Even though the TFG isn't out in English yet, some figures are already being talked about.
Among those highly anticipated figures is Murkrow.
Its Whirlwind attack is INCREDIBLY broken, but then again, it's only about 1/3 of its spinner.
What are your thoughts on Murkrow?
Discuss.

I has one! in english!

Murkrow is by far the most broken figure in the game that i've seen

I will upload all my pics tomorrow.

[Curry]

My pictures should be up by the end of the day hopefully. Also, when most people say english, they are talking about the US release even though I think most of the AU/EU figures are in english.

As far as Murkrow goes, I agree taht he is good, but he is not the end-all-be-all. I think condition teams will actually play a bigger role since most pokes that inflict conditions have either a large purple attack, two average ones, or an attack that can inflict a status condition. For example Raich(one of my personal favs) paralyzes anyone who KOs him when he is knoecked out while using thunderbolt which is over 50% of his attack wheel.

[Shellshock929]

Yeah, Murkrow is the most annoying Fugire I've seen so far. I haven't seen all of them, but I know I will see a lot of Murkrow around.

[Curry]

My personal problem with Murkrow is that, while he does have the amazing 1/3 whirlwind attack, he has another 2/3 of attacks that are either misses or might as well be. There are other figures that may not be as fast as Murkrow, but they get the job done beter IMO.

Here's a direct comparison between Murkrow and a figure with a similar attack with full text spoilers:

Dratini 2 MP
Miss 8 1/3%
Push Aside ** The Defending Pokemon returns to the Bench and has Wait 25%
Dragon Rage 80 damage 12 1/2%
Tail Snap 30 damage 54 1/6%

Murkrow 3 MP
Miss 8 1/3%
Surprise 20 damage 29 1/6%
Whirlwind * The Defending Pokemon returns to the Bench and has Wait 37 1/2%
Peck 10 damage 25%

Based on this, while Murkrow does have a better chance of sending the Defending Pokemon back to the bench, his other options are definitely NOT things that you want to spin making it difficult to decide when to actually use Murkrow in battle or use him to attempt to deflect the assault of you opponent.

[Burninating_Torchic]

Wow, Dratini looks great, but there are definitely pros and cons to both it and Murkrow.

Dratini:
Pros: Can hold its own in an actual battle assuming it doesn't get Push Aside.
Cons: Only 2 MP

Murkrow:
Pros: 3 MP
Cons: If you don't get whirlwind, you're dead.

Where did you get those text spoilers from? And what do those numbers like the 37 in whirlwind and the 8 in miss mean?

[Curry]

The numbers are percentages and the text came from my own personal figures. Any others you guys want, I'll gladly post them and I hope to begin writing articles on the figures soon.

[Burninating_Torchic]

Bulbapedia also has spoilers for a FEW Pokemon.
Lugia's interesting.

Lugia 1 MP
Dodge 8.3%
Hurricane *** The Defending Pokemon returns to the Bench and has Wait. 25%
Aeroblast: 90 Power: 2 sections of 25%
Miss: 2 sections of 8.3%

Looks GREAT except for its single MP.

[(TYranitarFReak)]

can someone explain ^ to me? i couldnt understand the %

[DarkJake]

Bulbapedia also has spoilers for a FEW Pokemon.
Lugia's interesting.

Lugia 1 MP
Dodge 8.3%
Hurricane *** The Defending Pokemon returns to the Bench and has Wait. 25%
Aeroblast: 90 Power: 2 sections of 25%
Miss: 2 sections of 8.3%

Looks GREAT except for its single MP.

I don't like how it only moves 1 space, perhaps that's too much of a liability

[Curry]

can someone explain ^ to me? i couldnt understand the %

The percentages are based on an X/72 equation where the X is represented by the number of light and dark hash marks on the figures attack wheel. The common miss spot has 6 marks on it which gives you 6/72 or 1/12 which equates out to 8.3333333333 or 8 1/3%

[louist200]

u make my head hurt

[Curry]

u make my head hurt

No offence, but I don't see how simple math can make your head hurt.

[Burninating_Torchic]

Woah, I never saw those hash marks before. I figured people were just guessing.
That helps.

[Curry]

No I measured the cicumference of the circle and found out what percentage of the area was occupied by whatever specific attack I was analyzing. Then I found the square root of the surface area of any given sports ball in comparison to a pie or, at least, a piece of one. anyone with half a brain could figure it out:rolleyes:

[darkmagick15]

No I measured the cicumference of the circle and found out what percentage of the area was occupied by whatever specific attack I was analyzing. Then I found the square root of the surface area of any given sports ball in comparison to a pie or, at least, a piece of one. anyone with half a brain could figure it out:rolleyes:

I am a maths genius [read my profle] with an I-Q of 126 [I cant remember must be about this],
An you basicially just posted the formula of calculating the area of a circle in smarrt language.
The rest is preaty much giberish.
Dratini looks way better but harder to get lugia is a simple look and the window to find pokemon[But like hard to get in the eu].

[Curry]

The rest of it was gibberish for a reason. It was a joke post. I personally think that Dratini is the best of the three because he can move fairly well, has a good purple attack, and can hold his own in a battle. Aside from the purple attacks on these three figures though, there are better figures out there IMO because of special conditions or better attack effects.

[darkmagick15]

The rest of it was gibberish for a reason. It was a joke post. I personally think that Dratini is the best of the three because he can move fairly well, has a good purple attack, and can hold his own in a battle. Aside from the purple attacks on these three figures though, there are better figures out there IMO because of special conditions or better attack effects.

Well Ill just buy a few starters and mess around[[eu]bosters have no spinner or marker right, which I think sucks].
Ill find out in about a month which is the best team from set 1.

[Prime]

I feel in the 6-on-6 events, speed isn't as important since you can easily have pokemon guarding the goal while you have other pokemon going to the opponent's goal. I feel a medium pokemon with more strength would do better on the 6-on-6 events than a fast pokemon with very little strength. And then the strong ones with a lot of strength can do well if you can stop/block your opponent enough that the slow one can get it them.

[darkmagick15]

I feel in the 6-on-6 events, speed isn't as important since you can easily have pokemon guarding the goal while you have other pokemon going to the opponent's goal. I feel a medium pokemon with more strength would do better on the 6-on-6 events than a fast pokemon with very little strength. And then the strong ones with a lot of strength can do well if you can stop/block your opponent enough that the slow one can get it them.

Absoul seems good for 6 vs 6.
MP 2 [I think]
Half Purple
Half Withe
No miss's
Sounds good to me.

[Burninating_Torchic]

I feel in the 6-on-6 events, speed isn't as important since you can easily have pokemon guarding the goal while you have other pokemon going to the opponent's goal. I feel a medium pokemon with more strength would do better on the 6-on-6 events than a fast pokemon with very little strength. And then the strong ones with a lot of strength can do well if you can stop/block your opponent enough that the slow one can get it them.

Well, I think it depends on your team strategy. Should this game become popular like the TCG, I can definitely see "archetypes" emerging - one of which will inevitably be a "Blitz" type team.
A more balanced team might include powerful, slow guardians as well as some fast Pokemon for the offensive.

[Marshtomp]

Murkrows ability is good because murkrow can move three spaces. Murkrows attack only had one star which keeps it from being broken in my opinion.

[(TYranitarFReak)]

what are these stars and damage ? does the figures actually have HP?

anyway, just find 2 fast mover, 2 tank, and 2 tech pokemon. the tanks or techs will prevent them from reaching our goal (dont move it out off the safety line) while ur fast movers quickly dash to their goal.