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Wren5

04/14/2004, 05:07 PM

Could someone please check my math on this? Thanks.

X= the likelyhood of drawing exactly the wanted amount of a certain card in a card deck

D= total number of cards in the deck

C= total number of cards in the deck which are the card you want to draw

N= number of the wanted card that one needs to draw

R= the number of cards to be drawn in trying to find the wanted card(s)

[(D-C)!/(D-C-R+N)!)][C!/(C-N)!]

--------------------------------- =X

D!/(D-R)!

If you're interested, I can e-mail you a pretty big chart of probabilities designed for use in the Pokemon TCG ... wren@mhzs-lair.com

Lanturn_Trainer

04/14/2004, 07:58 PM

that gave me a headache.....*rubs head*

Maverick Hunter Zero

04/14/2004, 09:25 PM

The MOMENT I saw this topic, I KNEW that you of all people would be behind this.

And I'm actually kind of amused by your statement that this took you two hours longer than it should have. :p

Stop complicating the Pokemon TCG with exceedingly simple equations that look really complicated. You'll scare the children.

Bigpoppabeatdown

04/14/2004, 11:33 PM

why am i guessing that only a handful of people understand what the ! means and how to use it....

statistically it looks correct, but that's in a perfect environment.....

u'd have to multiply it by constant K

which is the outside universal constant of irregularity.....

since so much depends on how things are shuffled and cut by the opponent, the constant is necessary....

ok, i'll stop since i've been studying for a test that's in 6 hours and i haven't gotten any sleep yet.... D'OH

Pidgeotto Trainer

04/15/2004, 03:38 AM

Yeah what does the ! mean? I'm trying to figure this out.

bullados

04/15/2004, 05:59 AM

that looks right, but something's buggin me bout it...

I'll figure it out during Math class 2day...

Scyther_trainer

04/15/2004, 06:47 AM

the ! means factorial. n! is the product of all numbers 1 to n

3! = 3 * 2 * 1 = 6

4! = 4 * 3 * 2 * 1 = 24

etc...

It's used in probability calculations.

Bigpoppabeatdown

04/15/2004, 07:20 AM

yeah, u must then use algebra to simplify said factorials since the product of these things jump infinitely fast....

example

(n+1)!/n! and n is at least 100....... think about it..... multiplying 1-100 even on a calculator is too big.....

so think of it this way

(n+1)*n!/n! = n+1 :D

TrueGamerX

04/15/2004, 03:17 PM

I know that when you attach Metal Energies to Steel Pokemon, you also add HP to their original HP.

Like a Dunsparce does 10 to a SS Steelix that has one Metal Energy on it. The Steelix gains 10 HP so when Dunsparce does that 10, it is subtracted to the newly added 110 HP.

110 - 10 = 100, So the 10 does nothing.

Just something I was thinking one day.

Wren5

04/15/2004, 06:51 PM

yeah, u must then use algebra to simplify said factorials since the product of these things jump infinitely fast....

example

(n+1)!/n! and n is at least 100....... think about it..... multiplying 1-100 even on a calculator is too big.....

so think of it this way

(n+1)*n!/n! = n+1 :D

Yes, that would be interesting. The numbers of probability would get absolutely ridiculous if you had a deck with more than 100 cards. If you filled a pokemon deck with singles, then already you can get 386,206,920 different hands when you draw your first 7. And that's if you allow yourself to rearrange the cards in your hand once you've drawn them. If you keep track of what order you draw them in, the number jumps to (calculator rounding here) 1.946482877x10^12 possible hands. That's roughly 2 quadrillion.

Interesting.

lunatone_solrock

04/15/2004, 10:42 PM

Ummm.... huh?!

Water Pokemon Master

04/16/2004, 04:40 AM

I am taking this equation to my math teacher today.

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