Anti-Dusknoir Techs

[prodigal_fanboy]

I was looking for cards that could be teched in as one-ofs, since Pokemon doesn't allow for Sideboards.

I thought I could use mismagius for it's crash chant, but that, correct me if I'm mistaken, doesn't hit stadiums.

So...

1) Play another stadium.
2) Solrock (GE).

What else?

[vietgamer1021]

lunatone not solrock o:

[KAZUTO!!!]

Unown G and a couple Stadiums that benefit your deck.

[octillery49]

Unown G and a couple Stadiums that benefit your deck.

Yeah, also Weavile and lake boundary would work.

[prodigal_fanboy]

What stellar stadiums exist in this format?

I run an all-dark deck, so I'm guessing this means I chip in a single moonlight stadium, although that'd benefit the Dusknoir player more than myself, as most of my retreat costs are 1 or 0.

Also, does Unown G shelter a single pokemon from the placing counters, or does it some way stifle the creation of a Lv. X stadium?

[machampX]

no one is playing dusknoir anymore it sucks
everyone is playing machamp that is what is winning citties

[charchar]

just becasue ur name and u liek machamp whatever, dosent mean its gonna win like every single city. =.=

i mean it'll win quite a few but how would you know what everyone is playing around the nation?

dusknoir does not suck, it has pros and cons like every other single pokemon.

[Sandslash7]

no one is playing dusknoir anymore it sucks
everyone is playing machamp that is what is winning citties

Except there haven't been any cities yet....

And, who says no one is playing Dusknoir anymore? There haven't been any major tournies since the release of SF...

[KAZUTO!!!]

What stellar stadiums exist in this format?

I run an all-dark deck, so I'm guessing this means I chip in a single moonlight stadium, although that'd benefit the Dusknoir player more than myself, as most of my retreat costs are 1 or 0.

Also, does Unown G shelter a single pokemon from the placing counters, or does it some way stifle the creation of a Lv. X stadium?

In a Dark deck, if you're trying to counter Dusknoir, Lake Boundary. =)

But if you have Weakness (not x2) to a type just as popular, if not more so, than Dusknoir in your area (say, Machamp), you might want to just use Moonlight, or just not lay down Lake Boundary vs. Champ. Another pro of playing Moonlight is that it helps vs. Gengar, another very hyped deck.

Unown G protects any Pokemon you like from Damage Counter, which helps ALOT with Dusknoir's Damage Even AND Dusknoir Lv.X (though not so much Noir Lv.X). Also it protects vs. Bronzong, if they play it.

[machampX]

and its not b/c of my name
get ur facts right thank-you very much
and im playing eveelutions
dusknoir is soo slow
machamp is faster
learn
exactly
and machamp won st.louis cc's
by the way

[Professor Elm]

Honestly, I feel Dusknoir/Gengar, is the strongest city championships contender. It's spreading potential is stellar and Shadow Command and Dark Palm combined with Dusknoir Lv. X's power make for extremely versatile and annoying pokemon.

It also has the power of abusing Gengar's attacks and power which are both very powerful.

Anyway, every deck with powers should play at least 2 Unown G and 1-2 Counter Stadiums. That's really the best you can do against such decks.

[empoleonperson]

Bronzong MD is good.

[Darkwater]

Chatot discards stadiums doing 20 for 2 energy.

[prodigal_fanboy]

My main line is Honchkrow, which has electric weakness.

My only fighting weakness is my single darkrai copies.

I'll look for some lake boundaries, then, as I've yet to see an insanely solid electric contender that I can't beat with overpowering CA.

Chatot discards stadiums doing 20 for 2 energy.
Lunatone does the same, for one energy. :)

[FutureTrainer]

Chatot discards stadiums doing 20 for 2 energy.

Is that an active Chatot? I don't see which attack removes statiums.

Palkia's Spacial Rend attack (DP & GE) lets you discard the active stadium, and also search your deck for a stadium. That will help with the current round, and will let you get setup to counter the next turn. Downside is you need 1 water energy.

[TOYBOX]

honestly I would just play 2 Warp Point and 2 Unknown G.

If you try too hard to counter Dusknoir which isn't unbeatable, you're going to be completely blindsighted by all the other amazing decks out there which'll make those techs pointless. Instead of filling your deck with dozens of things to work against Dusknoir, add in things that'll make your deck more consistant and faster than Dusknoir. I play 2 Warp 2 G and 1 Sabeleye. None of them are useful ONLY for Dusknoir which is the good thing about them. Sabeleye is pretty amazing in any situation and Warp and G are pretty much staples for this season anyways. Alongside 1-2 counter stadiums like a Dawn in Kingdra or whatnot you should be set. Now, if Dusky is like EVERYWHERE, by all means play 4 Sabeleye. lawl.

[Wood811]

no one is playing dusknoir anymore it sucks
everyone is playing machamp that is what is winning citties

lol I laughed a little bit. Dusknoir is gg all over again. It's sad that ppl don't see it but history does repeat itself...

[machampX]

why is every one playing unown G
its waste of space
no one i know is playing that card
its a waste on the bench
and dusknoir is slow
everyone can kill the deck if u just play the right card or do the right thing

[Dual_Draw]

Dusknoir ain't slow, T2 Dusknoirs come nearly every game
Unwon G waste of bench? You do know that you discard it

[PokePockets]

why is every one playing unown G
its waste of space
no one i know is playing that card
its a waste on the bench
and dusknoir is slow
everyone can kill the deck if u just play the right card or do the right thing

Unown G is probably the best tech in the game, once you start playing it, you'll start winning more often, but i must agree with you on the Machamp though, it has already won 2 CC's in the Seniors division, we have yet to see it in the Masters (wait, maybe 1 Machamp deck)

Except there haven't been any cities yet....

Sorry to tell ya guy, but we have already had 2, some peoples are just farther ahead than others

[DarthPika]

Honestly, I feel Dusknoir/Gengar, is the strongest city championships contender. It's spreading potential is stellar and Shadow Command and Dark Palm combined with Dusknoir Lv. X's power make for extremely versatile and annoying pokemon.

It also has the power of abusing Gengar's attacks and power which are both very powerful.

Anyway, every deck with powers should play at least 2 Unown G and 1-2 Counter Stadiums. That's really the best you can do against such decks.

And I feel that Dusknoir/Gengar has got to be the easiest deck in the world to counter. Come one guys, you can do better than that. Mono weakness and messed up by unown G AND both stage 2? Please... to easy.

[prodigal_fanboy]

lol I laughed a little bit. Dusknoir is gg all over again. It's sad that ppl don't see it but history does repeat itself...

Pardon my ignorance, what's GG?

All I can think of is Ghazi-Gifts, Greater Gifts, and Good Game, but all of those are M:tG.

[mewbreon]

And I feel that Dusknoir/Gengar has got to be the easiest deck in the world to counter. Come one guys, you can do better than that. Mono weakness and messed up by unown G AND both stage 2? Please... to easy.



thank you

and to the guy above me
GG is gardivoir, galade (the deck that EVERYBODY and their mothers played last year)

[JWittz]

electivire X seems to save the day for me often against the dusknoir stadium, but he's hardly an often-played card. Teched correctly though in a raichu or magnezone deck, must dusknoir decks have a lot of trouble.

[Darkwater]

Sorry I was thinking of Lunatone my bad. dude

[The Phenom1993]

From personal experience i have to say that unown G, bastiadon MT and any pokemon that prevent any damage or effects done to your bench pokemon, really counters dusknoir.

[Zathaz]

Ive said it before I'll say it again weavile is the way to go if you have room lake boundary too

[PokemanMaster]

Dusknoir doesn't really have any bad matchups, just bad draws. Stadiums CAN slow it down, but it can always come back. Most people also tech in with Dusknoir for THOSE bad matchups...

[DarthPika]

That was a cocky reply.

I can't wait to see what happens when you come across a good anti Dusknoir deck. >_>

Dusknoir doesn't have bad matchups... pehhh