Gigacontrol Cc Winner 6-0

[Pachi]

THIS IS MY GIGAS BUILD BDIF:\

PK=16
2 GIGAS LA(recovery)
2 GIGAS LV.X
2 MESPRIT
2 UXIE
1 CRESSELIA
1 CRESSELIA LV.X
2 UNOWN G
1 LUNATONE
1 AZELF
2 SPIRITOMB

ENERGY 14

4 METAL
4 FIGHTING
4 WATER
2 MULTI

TRAINERS & SUPS. 30

3 PREMIER BALL
4 SWITCH
4 ROSSEAN'S
4 FELICITY'S
1 LUXURY BALL
2 SNOWPOINT TEMPLE
4 POKEBLOWER
4 SSU
2 TSD
2 BEBE,S SEARCH

STRATEGY: GET THE COLOSSAL GUY OUT AND HIT WITH 100 EVERY TURN AND PUT MESPRIT ON THE BENCH EVERY TURN TOO.CRESS AND THE TOMB ARE HERE FOR ONE REASON GENGAR AND DUSK X. 2 GIGAS X ??? YA THATS THE PLAY NO 3-1 . POKEBLOWER HERE ITS BETTER THAN PALKIA CUZ THE FIRST EFFECT CAN HELP YOU A LOT TRUST ME. I REALLY THING THAT THIS LIST IS PERFECT. WHAT DO U GUYS THINK>>.:thumb::pokeball:

[xgearsx]

Did you go 6-0 in citys with it? If so how many people were in your age catagory and was it masters?

[Pachi]

16 and yes in masters 4 rounds top 4

[Jason]

what location did you play?

[Pachi]

i play it in puerto rico

[Ra2xse]

OK, lets say this, i know guys maked 5-0 with Ampharos/Weavile or Salamence ex last year. It's all about playing, i have done 17-2 with Speed Groudon (i think it's funny deck) in our league but my little sister have made like 9-6.... So i think that maeby your lsit isn't so good, maeby the player is good and opponent's weack, so what did you face in that CC what decks?

[Brady1]

No ssu, 3-1 gigas. Rest looks fine though (though a few more basic energy would be a good sight).

[Vegeta ss4]

I wouldn't say perfect, no offense. Besides, what is perfect, one would say it looks perfect whilst another would point out many flaws.

I think it is a solid build, should be tweaked a bit more in the trainer engine. I will say, if you are running SSU in this energy accel deck, then why have NO Energy Links?


Uxie X is a must in this deck, too good to pass up.

Seriously, not a bad list man, I wouldnt run this version because its not how I play decks, but if this suits your playstyle then you must be doing something right, and you went 6-0 with it so it must be working!

You can go with a 2/2 Reg X, I'd rather play with a 3/1 so I can get a better start.

[Pachi]

ok i played against :
gengar/amu
amu
machamp
kingdra
t4
machamp
t2
gengar/amu
ok about the 2-2 regis is ok cuz in this deck theres no bad starts cuz u have 4 swithc/ssu
and no i,d tested the uxie x a lot but no it is not a most it can help a lot but there is no room for him on my list.

[Rogue Archetype]

No BAD STARTS with this list ???

Now.. I feel like a Bum.. because I can't see these starts being good:

1. Spiritomb start
2. Unown G start
3. Lunatone Start
4. Mesprit LA start
5. Cressalia start
6. Azelf start
7. Uxie start (when you have no LvX)
8. Regigigas start (with no Felicities or Lunatone to play)

That's ALOT to work around.
This probably means I'm not that good. Because I can't weave Gold out of that straw...

[Pachi]

ok about the 2-2 regis is ok cuz in this deck theres no bad starts cuz u have 4 swithc/ssu
and no i,d tested the uxie x a lot but no it is not a most it can help a lot but there is no room for him on my list.[/QUOTE]

i mean if you have a bad start use switch or ssu!!!!! cuz every pokemon that u start its really usefull.

[Brady1]

No BAD STARTS with this list ???

Now.. I feel like a Bum.. because I can't see these starts being good:

1. Spiritomb start
2. Unown G start
3. Lunatone Start
4. Mesprit LA start
5. Cressalia start
6. Azelf start
7. Uxie start (when you have no LvX)
8. Regigigas start (with no Felicities or Lunatone to play)

That's ALOT to work around.
This probably means I'm not that good. Because I can't weave Gold out of that straw...
With his list (and most gigas list), the *only* real bad start of that list is azelf (espically if you prize gigas X) and possibly tomb. Everything else is easy to play around/is a good start in reality (why do people think uxie is a bad start??).

[Pachi]

THAT'S RIGHT BRADY I CAN SEE THAT U KNOW ALOT ABOUT THIS DECK AND THATS TRUE THE ONLY BAD START IS AZELF AND IS NOT THAT BAD:thumb::thumb:

[ryanvergel]

I agree with brady1. Yeah, how is anyone with [C] for retreat (all but regi and tomb) bad? You discard the basic energy attached (one reason not to use call/multi), and retreat, and that energy will still be used to power up regi- so it isn't lost.

There is no bad start besides tomb, and that's only if you can't also get a switch card.

[Pachi]

RIGHT:thumb::thumb: I LOVE THIS DECK IS OWESOME BUT WHAT U THINK ABOUT NOT HAVING UXIE X HERE.?? ITHINK THAT IS NOT NEEDED WHAT ABOUT YOU ??:biggrin:

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[Kingdrax]

no! .,mn

[Ra2xse]

WOW? You have won Machamp and AMU both 2 times with this? C'moon you must be kidding... i can't belive it. Maeby i should aslo try to test Gigas little... But i can't belive that somebody can lose to Gigas with either Machamp or AMU.... There must be something wrong....

[Brady1]

...except amu isn't a hard matchup in any way, and machamp is far more even then anybody thinks (40-60 to 50-50).

[Ra2xse]

How can you get ride of your weakness? And good AMU palyer can take Gigas 75-25...

[Brady1]

....by not focusing on gigas? In both matchups? the amu matchup comes down to whoever can get down the first mespirit and teh first palkia. 75-25 is laughable.

[Vegeta ss4]

^, if I am not mistaken, is wrong of me to say it is 50-50?

[stevo0236]

why no claydol wouldnt it help

[Pachi]

claydol is not needed and seriusly yes i play on puerto rico before cuz it is my country and yes theres a lot of good people there now i move to las vegas 2 weeks ago. thanks

[Ra2xse]

....by not focusing on gigas? In both matchups? the amu matchup comes down to whoever can get down the first mespirit and teh first palkia. 75-25 is laughable.

The thing is that your Palkai isn't going to do anything in first 3-4 turns because of Mesprit LAs powers, good AMU lists plays 2 of them, os even if you should be 1-2 turns faster, can he just lock your powers for that, so i think that AMU can easily be faster, with a good palyer, and even if AMU doenst use Palkia, he can always paly 2 of each pixies on table, so when you KO one he can still hit you next turn... It taks only skill for both but if the skill is same, i would say that with good players AMU have a little adventage, wiht bad players it's mayby 50-50....

[Ardoptres]

The thing is that your Palkai isn't going to do anything in first 3-4 turns because of Mesprit LAs powers, good AMU lists plays 2 of them, os even if you should be 1-2 turns faster, can he just lock your powers for that, so i think that AMU can easily be faster, with a good palyer, and even if AMU doenst use Palkia, he can always paly 2 of each pixies on table, so when you KO one he can still hit you next turn... It taks only skill for both but if the skill is same, i would say that with good players AMU have a little adventage, wiht bad players it's mayby 50-50....

Your Palkia won't be doing anything either, because Gigas plays Mesprit... Actually, you will be powerlocked longer than the gigas player.

[Ra2xse]

Mesprits power Block is also power, so the one who got the first one out can be the winner, anyway, AMU teches manytimes Mewtwo Lv.X and Gigas can't get over it... AMU wins also Kingdra in a good players hands... AMU needs only skill... OK it' not BDIF because it needs the skill but it can win everything with right TeCHs...

[Brady1]

:/ Please, I can easily tech in a 1-1 line to not only crush mewtwo, but also any fighting deck (champ) around. Not hard to fit it in here. Gigas can win against ANYTHING with the right techs as well, but has the room and affordabliltiy to actually play them and use them correctly.

[Blaziken 1111]

I have to admit. I think gigas beats AMU 60-40. True who ever gets up first starts to power lock but as you say AMU only plays 2 lock mesprits. Gigas plays 2 or 3 and restroeing cards. Also true you can one shot a gigas but gigas one shots the sprites easier and its' aslo harder to get the sprites out to use supreme blast. Also good gigases play uxie which ones shot a sprite also easily. Gigas also plays palkia which can pick off hte guy iwth energy or the lone azelf to stop a blast.

[Pachi]

yup gigas can beat everything with the correct techs

[Hatter™]

It can't beat Gengar with 4 Mesprits lol >.>

[gallade]

take out 1 gigas x for 1 slow start and switch gigasis with gigaton punches

[Sabett]

I was wondering that Pachi, why do you run the SF regigigas? Has it tested better for you?

@Vegeta & Dusknoir: Why do you think the other gigas thread got locked? Knock it off, no one cares. If you really do, take it to the PMs, not here please.

EDIT: Sorry to backseat mod, but come on people, this is ridiculous.

[bulbasnore]

This is the type of post that attracts some bad replies. Part of the issue with this topic is that it presents a 'perfect' list. In a case like that, its better to make a tournament report and include your list. Perfect lists don't need help, so they probably don't belong in the deck help forum. We fix 'em, we don't rate em.

As my old boss used to say, "if I want to listen an argument, I'll start it myself." People don't come to the Gym to hear members argue and call each other out. They come here to read and discuss Pokemon strategy. Getting personal with each other may entertain you, but it does nothing for most of us, so its not welcome here.

Except for the various personal attacks, the discussion has actually risen to pros and cons of this type of deck, so post on.

[Sabett]

Why run the SF regigigas? Is there something we're missing? That extra 40 damage could be that little bit more your opponent needs to KO your regigigas.

[stevo0236]

true true about the sf regigigas but would he do it if the opponent needed the extra 40 to ko him and he could just sacrifice

[Pachi]

that's right list edited for recovery gigas. thankssss:thumb: