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Nick15
09/04/2003, 08:30 PM
No need to wait until Saturday to find out what's in Sandstorm, Scyther no 123 posted this on my site (http://www.fakecard.com/news/). :D

Rares:
Cacturne 2/100
Golduck 17/100
Pichu 20/100

Uncommons:
Anortih 27/100
Delcatty 34/100
Lileep 43/100
Lombre 46/100
Quilava 51/100

Commons:
Cyndaquil 59/100
Duskull 62/100
Growlithe 65/100
Marril 68/100
Mysterious Fossil 91/100
Root Fossil 92/100

Here's the deal now; Growlithe is not part of Japan's ADV2 series (or ADV3 for that matter), yet it's a card in Sandstorm. Interestingly enough, outside of promos, the only Growlithe not released in English is.... Vending Growlithe (http://www.fakecard.com/tcg/vending/images/040-growlithe.jpg). Problem is that Scyther left AIM before I could confirm whether or not that THIS is the Growlithe in his pack, but I wouldn't be surprized if it was. :)

So far though, Sandstorm is beginning to look more like ADV2 + Vending more than ADV2+ADV3. Though anyone is free to chime(cho) in and put in their ideas of what it may be. :)

Quick requestion for anyone going to the Sandstorm Prerelease tournaments though... Do everyone a favor and study this page (http://www.fakecard.com/tcg/vending/list.shtml). If you see any of these cards in your packs during the Sandstorm tournament, then that means that Vending cards are the other 40-something in the set. Good times. ;)

Orange Soda
09/04/2003, 08:38 PM
The only other possibility I can possibly think of would be that it could be cards from the so-called Wizards-made set.

But considering the inclusion of Mysterious Fossil, Vending seems the most likely answer.

Nick15
09/04/2003, 08:42 PM
True, Orange Soda. It's a pity Scytherno123 left AIM before I could figure out which Growlithe it was. So it won't be a day or so before I could find out (but by that time, everyone would know, so....) :D

soslowpoke
09/04/2003, 08:54 PM
Hmmm...I'd like to know what "franchise store" these boosters came from...

Pidgeotto Trainer
09/04/2003, 09:03 PM
This doesn't necessarily dismiss anything but its worth taking note that Scyther (My Gencon TMP partner BTW) has Growlithe as a common. In vending it is uncommon. That could've been changed. This does look like the most probable situation. Good going Scyther. :D
Now that I see Vending I NEED that Pidgeotto! :D

Nick15
09/04/2003, 09:07 PM
The last thing I want to do is look like a tool by posting this.... I'll find out about this... [glares]

The Dark Llama
09/04/2003, 09:22 PM
that promo wiggly look great..... 90 HP... a good power... cool.

dkates
09/04/2003, 09:51 PM
You have to wonder if the Omanyte's Power can be cumulative...
BTW, the Female symbol on Nidoran Female is tilted.

Gym Leader Blaine
09/05/2003, 12:35 AM
I have no clue as to how he could have "gotten" those boosters, especially 4 weeks before release date figuring TOs havent even gotten theres yet

=x

Maybe I can shed some light on this. You are incorrect, the TOs do have the cards as of Thursday, or at least the TOs that are running events for this weekend. I have gotten the 28 booster boxes of Sandstorm for the Salt Lake City Prerelease tournament, but to make sure that I am not tempted to post anything about that set or take a early peek at it. I have locked away the booster boxes till Saturday. That way even I wont know what is in the set till the tournament. It is always a nice surpise to find out your gifts on Christmas morning, and that is who I am looking at it. :thumb:

Pablo
09/05/2003, 05:56 AM
man, i really hope 1 TO opens up a box or something, so we can see the reprnts/vending cards. Also if mysterious fossil is in the set, it may be that they will allow the eblock in the new modified, since there are no fossil pokemon that i know of in ADV 3... interesting...

farbsman
09/05/2003, 07:32 AM
Pity those arent actual numbers and after calling literally every store within a 30 mile radius of me (Chicago area where scyther resides pretty much), I have no clue as to how he could have "gotten" those boosters, especially 4 weeks before release date figuring TOs havent even gotten theres yet

=x

Actually, all of the Tournament organizers for this weekends tournaments got there shipments of Sandstorm on Thursday. Well at least that is when I got mine.

farbsman
09/05/2003, 07:34 AM
man, i really hope 1 TO opens up a box or something, so we can see the reprnts/vending cards. Also if mysterious fossil is in the set, it may be that they will allow the eblock in the new modified, since there are no fossil pokemon that i know of in ADV 3... interesting...

We have been told by nintendo that we are not allowed to post any information about what is in the sets and if we did we would possibly lose our ability to run tournaments for them. We have had set lists since Tuesday. I had planned on posting some scans of the cards and a set list, but I would rather keep running tournaments for Nintendo.

Gym Leader Blaine
09/05/2003, 07:36 AM
man, i really hope 1 TO opens up a box or something, so we can see the reprnts/vending cards. Also if mysterious fossil is in the set, it may be that they will allow the eblock in the new modified, since there are no fossil pokemon that i know of in ADV 3... interesting...

Im sure that some TO's have open up a box, but they might not be saying anything :p about what they find. ;) Just wait by Saturday night Im sure that everyone the went to the Prereleae tournament will put what they got on the boards. :rolleyes:

meganium45
09/05/2003, 07:57 AM
Any TO who opens a box, and puts their ability to run premiere events on the line with Nintendo is a blithering idiot.

I wish there was a way that we could keep it blind until the second weekend, but I know there will be those who want to post what they get, and of course cash in a bit.

It is the ULTIMATE test, to play what you have never seen. Next time I will be running my prerelease on the 1st Saturday available!!!!

Meganium45

farbsman
09/05/2003, 08:02 AM
Any TO who opens a box, and puts their ability to run premiere events on the line with Nintendo is a blithering idiot.

I wish there was a way that we could keep it blind until the second weekend, but I know there will be those who want to post what they get, and of course cash in a bit.

It is the ULTIMATE test, to play what you have never seen. Next time I will be running my prerelease on the 1st Saturday available!!!!

Meganium45

I agree with you. If you are opening a box and posting the info not only do you ruin it for those who don't want to know what is in the set, but also those that go to your events after Nintendo takes it away from you.

As far as Scyther having two packs and posting it. The only TO near him that would have packs is the one at Pastimes. Hmmm sounds fishy to me, especially if he bought them.

Pablo
09/05/2003, 08:06 AM
you are right meganium45, it would be more interesting to play with what you dont know, i think the people who play tomorrow, will be the ones who enjoy the most this prerelease, because after that, spoilers and setlists will be flying around everywhere. If i were playing at one prerelease, I would keep myself away from the boards, because it would ruin the surprise... man why can't nintendo support international OP sooner, Mexico has always been like excluded from anykind of OP and it is closer to the US than places like the philippines and Europe....

Note: I'm not complaining that people in Europe and Philippines have OP and we dont, I'm just wondering why Wizards didn't support OP here in Mexico, yes they sent legue kits, but never supplied any kind of prizes or anything for big events, such as a SBZ...

meganium45
09/05/2003, 09:16 AM
Not to throw stones, but hasn't that store just ruined its own event??

This is supposed to be the first place the cards are seen, at the event, not after people have bought 2 boxes, studied the cards, then drafted.

Feh, hope someone is paying attention.

Gym Leader Blaine
09/05/2003, 10:01 AM
It is the ULTIMATE test, to play what you have never seen. Next time I will be running my prerelease on the 1st Saturday available!!!!

Meganium45

THat is one of the reasons why I wanted my Prerelease tournament to be run one th first day possible, just so the players dont know what they are going to play with. l'm not even openning any boosters cause I want it to be a surpise for me just as much it will be for my players.

GLB

Gym Leader Blaine
09/05/2003, 10:06 AM
Not to throw stones, but hasn't that store just ruined its own event??

This is supposed to be the first place the cards are seen, at the event, not after people have bought 2 boxes, studied the cards, then drafted.

Feh, hope someone is paying attention.

I hope it is not a store that is selling them. Not only is it bad that someone got some and posted it, but Nintendo even stated to the TOs that you cant sell any of the extra product till after the event. If they are selling they have broken two of Nintendo's big rules with this event.

:( :rolleyes:

meganium45
09/05/2003, 10:41 AM
I was told the only day, before the official release date, that I would be able to sell my extra product would be on the DATE of the event I was holding.

If I have any extra after that, it cannot be sold until the official release date. Keeps the TOs from throwing it out on e-bay and the like. Also protects the other pre-release events on the 2nd weekend.

That is what I was told.....

Meganium45 - yes, a premier TO for Nintendo in St. Louis!!!

Gym Leader Blaine
09/05/2003, 11:07 AM
I was told the only day, before the official release date, that I would be able to sell my extra product would be on the DATE of the event I was holding.

I have been told the something similar.

soslowpoke
09/05/2003, 01:22 PM
Umm I can assure you that Pastimes hasn't sold anything yet.

Gym Leader Blaine
09/05/2003, 01:49 PM
Umm I can assure you that Pastimes hasn't sold anything yet.

Soslowpoke, I think you are right about Pastimes not selling anything, Im sure that you would keep a better eye on stuff then that. :thumb:

soslowpoke
09/05/2003, 02:02 PM
After interrogating scyther for hours we can only get "he got it out of a franchise store in Niles". I guess truth will tell when we see scans.


However I do recall seeing an advertisement somewhere stating 100 all-new cards... I didn't think Mysterious Fossil was a new card..

Nick15
09/05/2003, 02:14 PM
What an interesting little caper this has turned into. .... But then again, for all I know Scyther's list could be a hoax. :) (If so, I certainly didn't endorse it...)

The Echidna
09/05/2003, 02:27 PM
well the growlithe is definatly not from vending... unless there's a vending growlithe that i dont know about and has the same rulings as this one ;)

just trying to determine if we want to post scans, or wait until the pr's have been run...

GymLeaderPhil
09/05/2003, 02:33 PM
well the growlithe is definatly not from vending... unless there's a vending growlithe that i dont know about and has the same rulings as this one ;)

just trying to determine if we want to post scans, or wait until the pr's have been run...

Something tells me some fake carders have been or did work on some actual cards. That or my spider sense is reminding me that I didnt put my parking brake on.
-Phil

Gym Leader Blaine
09/05/2003, 02:43 PM
Something tells me some fake carders have been or did work on some actual cards. That or my spider sense is reminding me that I didnt put my parking brake on.
-Phil

Ummmm GLPhil you forgot to put your parking brake on, and Im sorry to say that's your car is now starting to roll down the hill. :( But on a bright side of things the first Sandstorm Prerelease are in less then 24 hours away till we get to play with the new cards :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

Nick15
09/05/2003, 03:34 PM
Yeah, the Growlithe isn't from Vending. [mouth is smoking from when he shot it off his face] ... These scans I have though aren't fake. Even I couldn't fake 24 of these in 24 hours.

There's a definite possibility though that these may be cards that Wizards made for Jamboree, but was obviously not released. I guess Nintendo found a way. :)

The Echidna
09/05/2003, 04:19 PM
three of the cards i've seen... growlithe, duskull, and delcatty are all ones that have not [to my knowledge] been released in japan...

veeeeeery interesting.

the growlithe could be from jamboree, but the delcatty and duskull definatly arent.

and i concur with nick. these aren't fake... considering we both have the same scans ;)

GOROY
09/05/2003, 04:21 PM
Quote by Nick15
"Rares:
Cacturne 2/100
Golduck 17/100
Pichu 20/100

Uncommons:
Anortih 27/100
Delcatty 34/100
Lileep 43/100
Lombre 46/100
Quilava 51/100

Commons:
Cyndaquil 59/100
Duskull 62/100
Growlithe 65/100
Marril 68/100
Mysterious Fossil 91/100
Root Fossil 92/100"


Wait, if this is true aren't a couple commons missing?

Orange Soda
09/05/2003, 04:23 PM
Wait, if this is true aren't a couple commons missing?

Could've been repeats...

UncleBob
09/05/2003, 04:24 PM
I agree with you. If you are opening a box and posting the info not only do you ruin it for those who don't want to know what is in the set,

For those who don't want to know what was in the set... couldn't they just not read posts about the new series? ?:\

The Echidna
09/05/2003, 04:24 PM
scyther got 4 duplicates in his packs, he got an extra marril, growlithe, mysterious fossil, and root fossil

Ultramew
09/05/2003, 05:53 PM
Please forgive me if I sound rude, but quit ya yappin'. We here in Australia JUST got Ruby and Sapphire, and there's NEVER anything here. It's just not fair, so stop feeling sorry for yourselves with not knowing Sandstorm, and feel sorry for US, the Aussies. We NEVER have anything good here...NEVER.

UncleBob
09/05/2003, 05:55 PM
You got kangaroos. :(

/me wishes he could ride to work in a kangaroo.

Pablo
09/05/2003, 06:22 PM
lol, i wish i could ride a kangaroo too, and hug a koala :p

Nick15
09/05/2003, 06:52 PM
I give a nod to what Ech said; there are actually 4 cards in the scans provided that weren't part of ADV2 (Growlithe, Duskull, Delcatty, and the Lombre). But none of hese are part of ADV3, Vending, or Jamboree (since they feature Ruby/Sapphire Pokémon), or any other promo cards. So where they came from is a complete mystery now.

Now I know for a fact that the Growlithe could not have come from Jamboree. :) So I'm guessing that this is a sneak peak of ADV4 somehow, or maybe Nintendo made these cards up on their own and we're getting cards that are Western-first. :D That's ANOTHER mystery that'll be solved soon...

Pokekid
09/05/2003, 06:58 PM
By any chance could we get the scans up :P?

bullados
09/05/2003, 07:17 PM
NOOOOOOOO

At least, not until AFTER the Prerelease. I want to go in there completely blind, with the only knowledge of what's in the set given to me directly from Nintendo, namely, Shiftry, and the 2 Fossils.

Nintenfreak
09/05/2003, 07:31 PM
NOOOOOOOO

At least, not until AFTER the Prerelease. I want to go in there completely blind, with the only knowledge of what's in the set given to me directly from Nintendo, namely, Shiftry, and the 2 Fossils.

What about us that are not going to the prerelease, or those who are, but want spoilers?

SD PokeMom
09/05/2003, 07:37 PM
Isn't the whole idea of a prerelease tourney about getting one's _first look_ at the cards, right there and then? With a level playing field for all, since NO ONE knows whats in the set? Testing one's deck-building-on-the-fly skills, rather than using spoilers?

JMHO,
'mom

marril2k
09/05/2003, 07:50 PM
I just published the Zeo update (which lauched slightly early tonight) with EX: SandStorm scans from Scyther... If anyone's intrested

Into The Eye of The Storm (http://www.sugarshock.net/zeo/)

-marril

Pidgeotto Trainer
09/05/2003, 09:48 PM
Cool :cool:
I wasn't gonna be able to wait a week for my tournament anyways.
Scans can never replace the feel of those cards for the very first time. And to go right into a tournament with them! This is still gonna be great!!! This is still really the 1st Pokemon pre-release.

Pablo
09/06/2003, 06:14 AM
damn, i cant see the scans posted at Zeo.... guess I'll have to wait until tonight to find out all the info about Sandstorm :(

Nick15
09/06/2003, 05:33 PM
I have some posted on my site (http://www.fakecard.com/news/), it's on the front page, top most news post. :)

Gym Leader Blaine
09/06/2003, 10:37 PM
Isn't the whole idea of a prerelease tourney about getting one's _first look_ at the cards, right there and then?


That is what I thought, and all my players at the Salt Lake one today had a lot of fun with the new cards. I was a surpize to eveyone to open up there packs and see what they got. It was like Chrismas morning, and all the Players were getting something. If I run one of these events again I will have it hold on the first day that they can be just so the players will once again not know what is in the set, and have fun with it.

soslowpoke
09/06/2003, 10:57 PM
We've got a whole set list and pics of most of the cards in the set at Zeo..Enjoy..


The just HAVE to be Vending Cards (http://www.sugarshock.net/zeo/tcg/sandstorm/)

TheRealWobbuffet
09/07/2003, 09:32 AM
They don't look like Vending cards to me. It's certainly refreshing that we are getting new cards (still drawn by the Japanese artists, which is nice) not yet released in Japan. Also, the cards' backgrounds have to do with the desert, and that's usually what they do with cards released in Japan first, so it's fairly obvious they were made for Sandstorm.

PS: That Lileep is not from ADV2. The one with Ken Sugimori art is new, the other art one is the one from ADV2.