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    The PERFECT Gyarados counter for SP decks!!!

    So, for a long time now, my friends and I have strived to find a Gyarados counter for SP's. I finally discovered it! 1 Miasma Valley + 1 Skarmory FB!!! It works even better for Dialga players, since we already run Energy. If you get both into play, whenever a Magikarp comes into play, it is automatically KO'd! They can NEVER get Gyarados out!

    If you are going to make suggestions, these are for people who do NOT run Luxray GL Lv.X!!!
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    They play so many bts's, and skarmory is such a horrible attacker, that it is not worth it, if they get one up, or play luxray, your dead.
    I'm donezies.

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    Nice try, but your opponen't can still play BTS to remove the Miama's Valley in play, leaving the Karps with 10 HP left. However, if you play Metagross SV/Skarmory FB/Miasmas Valley, that would be a nasty combo against decks with basic Pokemon that have low HP like Hopips and Magikarps.
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    Just a single lookers and a lukario along with luxray should be enough.

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    Hmmm.... Well, what else is there that places damage when they're benched?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blaziken 1111 View Post
    Just a single lookers and a lukario along with luxray should be enough.
    and... a 2-2 Luxray with a Lucario GL is an autowin.
    especially if you're packing 3 or 4 power sprays.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogue Archetype View Post
    and... a 2-2 Luxray with a Lucario GL is an autowin.
    especially if you're packing 3 or 4 power sprays.
    Some of us aren't fortunate enough to have a LuxrayGL Lv.X.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rikko145 View Post
    Some of us aren't fortunate enough to have a LuxrayGL Lv.X.
    That's cool and informative, man.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogue Archetype View Post
    and... a 2-2 Luxray with a Lucario GL is an autowin.
    especially if you're packing 3 or 4 power sprays.
    well too bad my opponent played what you just posted, and i beat him down with my gyarados deck....the way to win is with a 1-1 donphan tech with 2 fighting energies.

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    Double Mime counter ftw!
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    I've always found that Lucario + Trash Bolting with Luxray is a good way to defeat Gyarados if you want a counter, but typically I think you should snipe their support before anything else. Knocking out an early Sableye can mean the game, imo.

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    Needs more Metagross SV. Unless Gyarados has a Dialga G pal randomly.

    But not for SP decks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rikko145 View Post
    Some of us aren't fortunate enough to have a LuxrayGL Lv.X.
    That's an EXCELLENT point!

    Suggestion #2:

    If this is the case, you can tech in a Lightening Arceus and 2 Mr Mimes.

    Simply hit and promote the Mr. Mime.

    They'd HAVE to have Pokemon Reversal to get out of that lock.
    (even if they had a tech Luxray LvX, they'd have to bright look ALOT to win vs. this)

    This would be nice vs. Jumpluff, Gyrardos, and Shuppet
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    Make them use all their Felicity's to set up.
    Get rid of BTS.
    Shuffle their hand in.
    KO the Gyarados.

    OR
    Play a deck that KO's 60-80 HP guys on the first or second turn.
    Go up in prizes before Gdos gets out.
    Be able to trade prizes back and forth for the rest of the game.

    There's no such thing as a "counter" card or combo to Gyarados, or any deck for that matter. Just learn how Gdos works, then adapt your strategy to "counter" it.
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    If you dont have Luxrays play something else? Why would you play a Gengar deck without Gengars, either you get the gengars or you better move on :/

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheChosenOne View Post
    well too bad my opponent played what you just posted, and i beat him down with my gyarados deck....the way to win is with a 1-1 donphan tech with 2 fighting energies.
    How so? Gyarados OHKO's Donphan!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogue Archetype View Post
    and... a 2-2 Luxray with a Lucario GL is an autowin.
    especially if you're packing 3 or 4 power sprays.
    Not true at all... Gyarados beats Luxchomp on a regular basis.
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    There's already Gyarados counter for SP decks. It's called Luxray GL.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rikko145 View Post
    Some of us aren't fortunate enough to have a LuxrayGL Lv.X.
    Then why are you playing SP?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DIZZtheWHIZZ View Post
    Then why are you playing Pokemon?
    Corrected for you haha
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    Someone please tell me why gdos is trouble at all for sp (ie luxchomp)
    I have never feared it, and actually love playing against gdos with luxchomp in tojrnesy

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    Quote Originally Posted by DIZZtheWHIZZ View Post
    Then why are you playing SP?
    I run DialgaChomp!!! That's why I run SP!!! The deck that has several LuxChomp victories under its belt! So if you think Luxray GL Lv.X is so good, bring it on! I'll battle you on RedShark right here, right now!
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    Quote Originally Posted by DIZZtheWHIZZ View Post
    Then why are you playing SP?
    SP decks don't rely on Luxray - many SP decks can be played without it.

    To name a few:

    PalkiaChomp, DialgaChomp, BlazeChomp, InferChomp, Sabelock, Honchkrow G Variants, Gallade, HoPe

    Of course, all of these decks can be played with a Luxray tech, but it's not absolutely necessary.

    btw, notice the abundance of "Chomp" in everything
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    ^ so you are saying w/o Chomp or Lux...SP players are pretty done for?
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    Quote Originally Posted by yoyofsho16 View Post
    Not true at all... Gyarados beats Luxchomp on a regular basis.
    Judging in YOUR meta, I've seen Luxcomp simply own G'dos.

    But then again... I wasn't over there with the Masters during Regionals :/
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