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    Mew Prime the Toolbox Pokemon

    Mew (Prime) – Psychic - HP60
    Basic Pokemon

    Poke-Body: Lost Link
    This Pokemon can use any printed attack on the Pokemon in either player’s Lost Zone. (If it doesn’t have the necessary Energy attached to it for an attack, it can’t use it.)

    [P] Read and Place: Place 1 Pokemon card from your deck in the Lost Zone. Shuffle your deck afterward.

    Weakness: Psychic (x2)
    Resistance: none
    Retreat: 0

    Mew Prime is a yet to be released card that creates a very interesting strategy, by lost zoning a pokemon t1 and then attacking with mew prime with then on can make for an interesting and usually quick paced game. Here's the main idea, look at the opponent's field, determine if they're playing sp or not. IF they're playing SP, lost zone Machamp, and proceed to use take out. If they're not playing SP, I recommend lost zoning jumpluff and keeping a full bench. There's also a few other pokemon that can be Lost zoned as techs, including Umbreon UD, Gengar SF, Gengar Prime, and basically any other pokemon with an attack for one energy and can help out. These are good, but I suggest mainly sticking to machamp and Jumpluff.

    A problem you might first note is Mew Prime's very low 60hp, now if we're using take out against SP every turn, then it's simply a race, and probably one we can win, considering all the set up it takes to get an SP ready to attack compared to mew prime's non-Lv.X one energy attack. Pokemon Rescue is also an essential tool, as you'll more than likely be in this situation of racing with the opponent since mew prime's HP is so low. Fishermen might be nice, but I suggest making sure the list has plenty of energy and running some interviewer's questions, Aaron's Collection might also be the play as well.

    There are 3 main problems I see for Mew prime. Mewtwo, Donphan, and Dialga. Now for the first two, one of my recently favorite techs takes care of these fairly well. Abomasnow SF, it's able to KO mewtwo without even being hit back, and can tank out donphans pretty easily, a 2-2 line is definetely recommended . For Dialga, I suggest Blazekin FB, there's not a lot that can deal with Dialga outright like Blazekin can, and it's another incentive to run Aaron's Collection.

    I highly suggest running snowpoint temple, I know it's not very popular, but if we're playing against sp, we're going to be using take out so that won't be a problem, and if your opponent can't manage to consistently do 80 damage a turn then you'll more than likely get ahead in prizes. Also, it can help against the donphan matchup, forcing them to put up on an expert belt in order to keep the OHKO going, you'll make up for the prizes since you'll still 2HKO him from mass attack.

    Machamp isn't an issue, because not only does Obama deal with him just fine, we're hitting him for weakness so it's not that big of a deal, if it really worries you that much, run a luxario gl, that way you'll only have to mass attack for 70 instead of 100.
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    mew's biggest problem is the auto loss to dialga g, which just about every sp deck is going to tech due to many of the lost link cards such as gengar prime and lost world. so when you say take out, i say with what machamp, cause mews body isnt working anymore. the 60-80 hp is still easy to deal with and sp gets the bonus too. your 80 hp isn't going to comepare to my 120-140 hp pokemon and thats before i drop the e-belt.

    i do like mew prime and it seems like a viable to tech, like 1 in a deck no more no less, but other than that i dont see a point to using it.

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    I'd use 2-2 Snover
    2-1-2 Champ
    0-2 Garchomp C Lv.X
    2-1-2 Pluff


    4 Multi energy
    4 DCE
    3-5 basic

    I think it's a grat Idea Sabett, but we'll have to wait and see if it works!
    (Poor matchup Vs. Gengar Prime)
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    Meh.

    If Mew's Body and attack were reversed it would be worth it I guess, but considering you have to attack for no damage to send a Poke away, I just see you getting KO'd next turn. =\
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    60HP? Are you kidding me? Shuppet can OHKO it without any plus powers or expert belts? Uxie can OHKO it with an expert belt? (or plus power)

    Boy, I just don't see anything surviving with 60HP and double weakness.

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    why don't u just use gengar prime with mew prime? lost zone gengar prime, and then from there, use his attack to lost zone pokemon. this deck could very well work, and with sp engine it could be amazing. blaziken to counter dialga, and that's it. if lost zone isn't cutting it, machamp is a good back up aswell.
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    Hahahahaha @

    Mew Prime
    Abomasnow
    Blaziken FB
    Snowpoint Temple

    in one deck. Is this a joke thread or for real?
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    Quote Originally Posted by tehmoe View Post
    mew's biggest problem is the auto loss to dialga g, which just about every sp deck is going to tech due to many of the lost link cards such as gengar prime and lost world. so when you say take out, i say with what machamp, cause mews body isnt working anymore. the 60-80 hp is still easy to deal with and sp gets the bonus too. your 80 hp isn't going to comepare to my 120-140 hp pokemon and thats before i drop the e-belt.

    i do like mew prime and it seems like a viable to tech, like 1 in a deck no more no less, but other than that i dont see a point to using it.
    Try reading the OP:

    Quote Originally Posted by Sabett View Post
    For Dialga, I suggest Blazekin FB, there's not a lot that can deal with Dialga outright like Blazekin can, and it's another incentive to run Aaron's Collection.
    Why would it be a good tech? It takes 2 attacks in order to attack.

    Quote Originally Posted by Arcanite View Post
    I'd use 2-2 Snover
    2-1-2 Champ
    0-2 Garchomp C Lv.X
    2-1-2 Pluff


    4 Multi energy
    4 DCE
    3-5 basic

    I think it's a grat Idea Sabett, but we'll have to wait and see if it works!
    (Poor matchup Vs. Gengar Prime)
    Why run lines of champ and pluff? We just need the stage 2, and garchomp C Lv.X's attack is 3 energy to use, with Mew Prime's 60hp, it's too much to work with, mew needs to retaliate quickly.

    Quote Originally Posted by kwisdumb View Post
    Meh.

    If Mew's Body and attack were reversed it would be worth it I guess, but considering you have to attack for no damage to send a Poke away, I just see you getting KO'd next turn. =\
    On turn 1? Granted it's not always going to be your starter but it should at the very least be t2, and if this is against SP, they shouldn't be able to keep up with the race of consistently doing 60hp if their active keeps on getting KO'd every single turn as well. I'm not saying it's reassured, but it's close in the SP matchup, for stage 2's and the like it's nothing to worry about, most of the time you should be OHKOing them, and they keep having to set up a stage 2 in order to attack, you'll win the race in no time.

    Quote Originally Posted by Prime View Post
    60HP? Are you kidding me? Shuppet can OHKO it without any plus powers or expert belts? Uxie can OHKO it with an expert belt? (or plus power)

    Boy, I just don't see anything surviving with 60HP and double weakness.
    Shuppet would definitively lose to this, it has no more wall to work with anymore, plus what if I brought out Obama, doesn't seem like he could deal with him too well...

    Quote Originally Posted by freshsenior View Post
    why don't u just use gengar prime with mew prime? lost zone gengar prime, and then from there, use his attack to lost zone pokemon. this deck could very well work, and with sp engine it could be amazing. blaziken to counter dialga, and that's it. if lost zone isn't cutting it, machamp is a good back up aswell.
    Using gengar prime requires eating up a lot of the deck list in order to just work around, it also doesn't help us deal with the opponent's attack as well, like in SP they could just bring up a luxray and attack all day long, and it would also take away a large advantage we have against stage 2 matchups, since now they dont have to worry about consistently making a stage 2 in order to attack. If gengar's attack could pull out more pokemon than was attached to him, then it could work.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheGeneral View Post
    Hahahahaha @

    Mew Prime
    Abomasnow
    Blaziken FB
    Snowpoint Temple

    in one deck. Is this a joke thread or for real?
    Abomasnow is a completely viable teck, it deals with donphan, mewtwo, and machamp all at the same time. Do you have a better choice as a tech against Dialga than Blazekin FB? And mew prime's all about racing the clock since it has such little hp, that extra 20 damage could very well be the difference it needs when racing. Besides SP uses how many techs? Yuta's list ran 4, and it didn't even have promocroak.
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    Mew varients have always been my favorite kind of card, and this one is no exception. Houndoom UD/Drfiblim UD (the 2nd attack is a lot more fun coming from a basic :D) and Gengar Prime are two other cool cards to throw in and be able to use.

    The HP is in my opinion completely balanced by the fact it allows you to pretty much Collector for 3 Jumpluff/Machamp/Gengar/etc and can be Rescued.
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    Worst idea since the Pocket Fisherman. I can't believe anybody would actually see such an underpowered, low HP card that works off so many if this's and if that's as a viable main attacker. Idiocracy.
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    Now a tech? Yeah, I can see this being an amazing tech or secondary attacker.

    Main, no. Much too weak.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kayle View Post
    Now a tech? Yeah, I can see this being an amazing tech or secondary attacker.

    Main, no. Much too weak.
    Agreed 100% on that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by waynegg View Post
    Worst idea since the Pocket Fisherman. I can't believe anybody would actually see such an underpowered, low HP card that works off so many if this's and if that's as a viable main attacker. Idiocracy.
    It only has 10 less HP than Jumpluff with Snowpoint in play >_>
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kayle View Post
    Now a tech? Yeah, I can see this being an amazing tech or secondary attacker.

    Main, no. Much too weak.
    Tech? Tech how? Lost zone something and then attack? Why not just run that tech instead? How is this any better as a tech? Also, how's it too weak if we're making the opponent just as weak from our attacks? What's the difference between Luxray attacking with Flash Impact and Mew Prime using Take Out? What's the difference between Machamp using Take Out, and Mew Prime using Mass Attack hitting on weakness?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shino Bug Master View Post
    It only has 10 less HP than Jumpluff with Snowpoint in play >_>
    Hahaha GREAT argument....

    A x2 psychic weak Pokemon that needs to search out a stadium to have 80hp, and gets OHKO'd by a belted Uxie/Shuppet/Mismagius/Drifblim....yeah, TOTALLY on the same level as Jumpluff

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGeneral View Post
    Hahaha GREAT argument....

    A x2 psychic weak Pokemon that needs to search out a stadium to have 80hp, and gets OHKO'd by a belted Uxie/Shuppet/Mismagius/Drifblim....yeah, TOTALLY on the same level as Jumpluff

    /sarcasm
    A belted uxie? What you plan to keep it out there to keep on attacking or are you going to keep on finding uxies and belts every turn? Cause if you're keeping it out there, I'll do that race any day. Also, how is shuppet going to be viable at all? There's no mr. mime anymore, that archetype is going to crash and burn. With mismagius you're going to have to sacrifice 2 tools a turn, or somehow attach 2 energy a turn, the same goes for drifblim (minus the tool sacrificing).

    Also, the point is that jumpluff planned to be OHKO'd every single turn, this deck does the same thing but can set up a lot easier.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sabett View Post
    A belted uxie? What you plan to keep it out there to keep on attacking or are you going to keep on finding uxies and belts every turn? Cause if you're keeping it out there, I'll do that race any day. Also, how is shuppet going to be viable at all? There's no mr. mime anymore, that archetype is going to crash and burn. With mismagius you're going to have to sacrifice 2 tools a turn, or somehow attach 2 energy a turn, the same goes for drifblim (minus the tool sacrificing).

    Also, the point is that jumpluff planned to be OHKO'd every single turn, this deck does the same thing but can set up a lot easier.
    Lol, stick to your usual theorymon, and I'll stick to what works.

    Have fun with your Mew Prime/Abomasnow/Blaziken FB/Snowpoint Temple deck haha.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGeneral View Post
    Lol, stick to your usual theorymon, and I'll stick to what works.

    Have fun with your Mew Prime/Abomasnow/Blaziken FB/Snowpoint Temple deck haha.
    Because no deck begins as theorymon, ever. I have no idea why you're bad mouthing the deck because it runs techs, didn't gigas t16 with Obama as it's Machamp/Donphan/Mewtwo/ERL tech? Didn't that work?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sabett View Post
    Tech? Tech how? Lost zone something and then attack?
    Yeah, exactly that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kayle View Post
    Yeah, exactly that.
    That takes two attacks, leaving it vulnerable as active for a turn. You really need to focus on the speed of it. Mew prime sounds a lot worse as an attacker.
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    one thing ur forgetting is, that you lose turns equal to the amount of different attacks you need in the lost zone. there has to be a more viable/ faster way, to get those pokes in lost zone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skovtrold View Post
    one thing ur forgetting is, that you lose turns equal to the amount of different attacks you need in the lost zone. there has to be a more viable/ faster way, to get those pokes in lost zone.

    //peace
    You'll only need to lost zone certain pokemon for certain archetypes. SP - Machamp, most everything else - Jumpluff. If SP starts trying to build something like drifblim on the bench they'll have to sacrifice attaching to attack you that turn, giving you the opportunity to respond.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sabett View Post
    Mew Prime is a yet to be released card that creates a very interesting strategy, by lost zoning a pokemon t1 and then attacking with mew prime with then on can make for an interesting and usually quick paced game.
    Quote Originally Posted by Sabett View Post
    Mew prime sounds a lot worse as an attacker.
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    Quote Originally Posted by waynegg View Post
    Taking both sides of an argument is a great way to be correct! half right anyhow, lol!
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    Or we can read all of that quote, it's obvious I meant as a tech.
    "Arceus who art at spear pillar. Pokemon be thy name. The Elite Four done, The champion done. At league as I am in Sinnoh. Give us this day our daily poffin, and forgive us our ego as we forgive those who underestimate us. And lead us not into Galactic but deliver us from Rocket for thine is the Battle Front and power and glory for ever and ever
    I choose you"

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