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    Worlds Invite Structure announced

    The invite structure has been posted at pokemon.com here.

    For USA
    Top 8 Nationals in each division get an invite.
    Top 4 Nationals in each division get a paid trip.

    For Canada
    Top 4 Nationals in each division get an invite.
    Top 1 Nationals in each division get a paid trip.

    For North America
    Top 40 Points in each division (without passdowns) get invitations

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    Guaranteed top 8 for each division


    Good luck everyone!
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    Just in case anyone outside of North America is interested

    Europe

    Nats invites vary by country
    Ranking: Top 50 in each division

    Latin America

    Nats invites vary by country
    Ranking: Top 5 in each division

    APAC

    Nats invites vary by country
    Ranking: Top 10 in each division
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    Quote Originally Posted by baby mario View Post
    Just in case anyone outside of North America is interested

    Europe

    Nats invites vary by country
    Top 50 in each division

    Latin America

    Nats invites vary by country
    Top 5 in each division

    APAC

    Nats invites vary by country
    Top 10 in each division
    'top 50'? is that a typo?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scorpidad View Post
    The invite structure has been posted at pokemon.com here.

    For USA
    Top 8 Nationals in each division get an invite.
    Top 4 Nationals in each division get a paid trip.

    For Canada
    Top 4 Nationals in each division get an invite.
    Top 1 Nationals in each division get a paid trip.

    For North America
    Top 40 Points in each division (without passdowns) get invitations

    Grinder
    Guaranteed top 8 for each division


    Good luck everyone!
    I hope i understand that right that there are no pass downs at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by evil psyduck View Post
    I hope i understand that right that there are no pass downs at all.
    There were none last year so it wouldnt be out there for there to be none this year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SD PokéMom View Post
    'top 50'? is that a typo?

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    Top 50 by ratings.

    Sorry, should have made that clear.

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    No need for mass panic or moral outrage. There are no pass downs . . .

    Premier Rating invitations are awarded without pass downs as of the 2010 season. This means that players who earn an invitation via a National Championships or who are not opted in to Ratings and Rankings will take one of the invitation slots awarded regardless of their eligibility to collect the invitation.
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    Wow, I can't seem to stop complaining but really, top "1" at CDN Nats gets the trip? IDK how the trophies being cut have done anything for the game other than benefit the few additional US States. For the record, last year CDN Nats had top "2" get trips and we also had trophies. Not trying to sound offensive but could someone explain to me why this has happened and why it was downgraded from top "2"
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    Quote Originally Posted by smacktack15 View Post
    Wow, I can't seem to stop complaining but really, top "1" at CDN Nats gets the trip? IDK how the trophies being cut have done anything for the game other than benefit the few additional US States. For the record, last year CDN Nats had top "2" get trips and we also had trophies. Not trying to sound offensive but could someone explain to me why this has happened and why it was downgraded from top "2"
    Not to say I'm happy about the downgrade in the least, and not to say that Canada doesn't have extra complications, but it was about time Canada got hit in the trip count. Effectively, you guys have been getting 50% of the trips that the United States has for the past three years.

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    Top 10 APAC passdowns....Hmmm....

    S'pose I still need to boost my ratings more :3

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyrus View Post
    Not to say I'm happy about the downgrade in the least, and not to say that Canada doesn't have extra complications, but it was about time Canada got hit in the trip count. Effectively, you guys have been getting 50% of the trips that the United States has for the past three years.

    Glad to see it finally announced. About time...
    This.
    Getting a trip from an invite in the US is at least 10 times harder than Canada, even though we have 4 times the trips. You basically have to not only be one of the top players, but you also have to be the top player that doesn't hit an autoloss through 5 rounds of top cut.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yoyofsho16 View Post
    This.
    Getting a trip from an invite in the US is at least 10 times harder than Canada, even though we have 4 times the trips. You basically have to not only be one of the top players, but you also have to be the top player that doesn't hit an autoloss through 5 rounds of top cut.

    You're forgetting all those extra rounds at nationals, regionals and even in states gives all the American players a HUGE advantage over Canadians in the ranking invites. Of the top 40, 1 MAYBE 2 are Canadian and usually thats including our national champ.

    So in reality US has 43 invites, Canada has 6.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sdrawkcab View Post
    So in reality US has 43 invites, Canada has 6.
    Since the US has 9 times as many people as Canada does, it looks like Canada has one too many invites still.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sdrawkcab View Post
    Sure, if you're going straight population, however thats not the case when you're looking at player population
    Are you saying Canada has more players then the states or percentage wise by population?
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    I'm sorry I should have been clearer. The point I was trying to make was that the invites / player base ratio for Canada and the US are similar once you take in to consideration the ranking invites.

    I'm not saying at all that we deserve more invites, im just trying to defend the ones we have. I'm still thankfull however that we weren't once again reduced to three invites at nationals.
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    Does anyone know around what rating number the top 40 usually gets cut off at?
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    Last year #40 was 1,850.02.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Little Wittz View Post
    Does anyone know around what rating number the top 40 usually gets cut off at?
    Based on past years, 1870 is safe, 1850 is borderline, and 1830 isn't gonna make it. And assume some leeway around those numbers, especially this year...
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    Quote Originally Posted by sdrawkcab View Post
    You're forgetting all those extra rounds at nationals, regionals and even in states gives all the American players a HUGE advantage over Canadians in the ranking invites. Of the top 40, 1 MAYBE 2 are Canadian and usually thats including our national champ.

    So in reality US has 43 invites, Canada has 6.
    I think the argument that Kettler was making was for the ratio of paid trips, not invites.
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    how about senior #40 and does my record show that i can get in?

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    The not opted ins consume invites too.

    Look at last years ratings and allow a little for growth to see what target you might need.

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    Uhm... you complain about trips? You know that all who live in Canada pay only a small part of what Europoean players pay if they have to travel by themselves?

    btw, last year, Germany (biggest Nationals after the US and Japan) got the same amount of trips (2) as our neighbour Austria (about 20 masters, very low competition level), and that was not because of different LDs, it's the same for both countries.

    And at least Canada gets Regionals. Europe doesn't.

    About the invite structure, there's nothing new as far as I see. Top 50 for ratings looks fine to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShadowGuard View Post
    Uhm... you complain about trips? You know that all who live in Canada pay only a small part of what Europoean players pay if they have to travel by themselves?

    btw, last year, Germany (biggest Nationals after the US and Japan) got the same amount of trips (2) as our neighbour Austria (about 20 masters, very low competition level), and that was not because of different LDs, it's the same for both countries.

    And at least Canada gets Regionals. Europe doesn't.

    About the invite structure, there's nothing new as far as I see. Top 50 for ratings looks fine to me.

    I wasn't complaining about anything, didn't I say that I was thankful that we still have 4 invites?

    Europe get's Euro Cup / Euro Challenge Cup, Canada does not. (also, Alberta (where I'm from) Doesn't get it's own regionals....just fyi)
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShadowGuard View Post
    Uhm... you complain about trips? You know that all who live in Canada pay only a small part of what Europoean players pay if they have to travel by themselves?

    btw, last year, Germany (biggest Nationals after the US and Japan) got the same amount of trips (2) as our neighbour Austria (about 20 masters, very low competition level), and that was not because of different LDs, it's the same for both countries.

    And at least Canada gets Regionals. Europe doesn't.

    About the invite structure, there's nothing new as far as I see. Top 50 for ratings looks fine to me.
    The difference is, in Canada if I wanted to go to 2 cities I would have to drive 9 hours (one way). If I wanted to go to 2 provincials I would have to drive 20 hours (one way). In Europe things are much closer together. In 20 hours of driving you could go from Madrid to Berlin. That and that if you wanted, you could go both 2 nationals in a 7 hour drive. In North America, the distance between Canadian and American nationals is 9 hours, not including the full day of driving from where I live.

    While it must suck to not have regionals, it sucks more to have regionals and not be able to go because you'd have to drive 20-25 hours.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chase4787 View Post
    The difference is, in Canada if I wanted to go to 2 cities I would have to drive 9 hours (one way).
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