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  1. #26
    Quote Originally Posted by Charranitar View Post
    Don't the full arts just go in the "random foil slot" of a box, which should work out to 2 full arts and 1 shiny in most boxes, if it's just factored in as 6/103 for ex's and 4/103 for shinies.

    I don't think you can base it too much off of one box though. I had an Emerging Powers box that netted me 3 Full Art Tornadus and 2 Full Art Thundurus, so I imagine there are boxes that go the other way with less full arts than you would expect in a box too.
    Unlike every other card in the history of the Pokemon TCG, the FAs don't seem to be random. 2 FA are pulled so consistently that it's ridiculous.

  2. #27
    Quote Originally Posted by Charranitar View Post
    Don't the full arts just go in the "random foil slot" of a box, which should work out to 2 full arts and 1 shiny in most boxes, if it's just factored in as 6/103 for ex's and 4/103 for shinies.

    I don't think you can base it too much off of one box though. I had an Emerging Powers box that netted me 3 Full Art Tornadus and 2 Full Art Thundurus, so I imagine there are boxes that go the other way with less full arts than you would expect in a box too.
    Where do you get your boxes...? I've never heard of +3 FA's.

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    Yeah, where are people hearing about people opening boxes? How are people already getting boxes?
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    Quote Originally Posted by King Piplup View Post
    Where do you get your boxes...? I've never heard of +3 FA's.
    For all previous sets, I got my boxes from Troll and Toad.

    That Emerging Powers box I got was probably the most broken box of pokemon cards ever. 5 full arts, 2 good Gothitelle, playset of Beartic, blinged out playset of Tornadus (3 FA/1 RH), full playset of Thundurus, I think 4, maybe 5 pokemon catcher. Just bought one box of the set, and that one box gave me everything I needed, especially since I never had any urge to play Gothitelle.

    As for my other boxes from them, it was pretty standard stuff. 6 primes per box, with 2 legends. 2 Shinies in COL. In Noble Victories, in both 2 boxes got 2 FA and the Meowth in both boxes....but only 1 Kyurem between the box.

    For Next Destinies I pre-ordered from Potomac Distribution because Troll and Toad has gone crazy with their shipping prices, while Potomac gives free shipping. Never used them before this, but they had a perfect 5 star rating on Google Shopping, so they seem legit.

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    I got the news by word of mouth, so it may/may not be true. I cant imagine that anyone would straight up lie with news that awful so it may actually be factual. Being as prereleases start this week some TOs might already have their supplies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RandomCaterpie View Post
    I got the news by word of mouth, so it may/may not be true. I cant imagine that anyone would straight up lie with news that awful so it may actually be factual. Being as prereleases start this week some TOs might already have their supplies.
    That's a logical fallacy is I ever heard one. People lie, are wrong, or baselessly speculate all the time. Not to mention word of mouth is fairly inaccurate most of the time.
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    I wouldnt be surprised if it is wrong, and i hope to Arceus that it is. I would hate for the EX's to be so rare, it would drive the price of Mewtwo out the roof. But also looking at it from the point of Pokemon, making the EX pokemon that rare would be a great business plan because it would move huge amounts of product. Just try not to be too disappointed when you only pull 3 total EX pokemon.

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    Yet most PTO's open at least one box for their own usage as soon as they get their hands on their supplies for prereleases - I know, since I used to be one. Whether or not they would verbally give out info regarding pull ratios to generate player enthusiasm is for you to decide. Personally .... I know I did. Perhaps they may be a bit careful not to put that info online, but I certainly don't think some minor verbal info has ever been kept entirely secret, and even then I have a feeling the PTO's would tell the truth. What profit would it be to the PTO's to lie about pull ratios? If they were wrong by overstating the set's worth, do you think people would ever trust them again?

    So essentially, if the pull ratios are high, then great. If they are not, ... then TPCi may not have control of what the ratios are. It's kinda tough to call without knowing all the facts so premature anger is probably not a good idea. Then once the facts are known, it's best to direct the anger (if any) to the proper source. Lets just wait until next weekend.
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  9. #34
    Quote Originally Posted by Tagrineth View Post
    I doubt the EX this time around will be more rare than Primes, considering the *old* EX are basically the slot that our FA cards take up now. So with 6 FA cards I'd expect 2 per box.

    Likewise with the "shiny" cards, there are 4 different ones, 1 per 3 boxes would make individual ones ungodly difficult to get, I'm expecting those to be 1 per box (so 2 FA, 1 shiny per box). Usually with those kind of cards (eg Pikachu, Meowth) when they are 1 per 3 boxes, there's only the one "special rare" card, rather than 4... so if they're 1 per box that means each unique shiny is 1/4 boxes but you always get one of the four.
    I'm sorry but Primes were too frequent. There weren't even really chasers. I think that you are wrong, I think it will go back to what it use to be, not what Primes were, plus they appeared in a different slot in the pack.

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    Drew, I seem to remember different pokemon-ex ratios for RS and SS. I think RS had upwards of double-digit exs, and SS had at least 6-8.
    Yeah, those two sets had 6 per box, not 8. However after that set, and for the next 14 sets it was the ratio that I gave.

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    When you open up 2 boxes and STILL have to buy 3 tins to get an appropriate number of Typhlosion Prime, it's still a Chaser type of card...
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDarkTwins View Post
    1-4 Ex/Lv. X - 1 per box
    5-7 Ex/Lv. X - 2 per box
    8-10 Ex/Lv. X - 3 per box
    11-14 Ex/Lv. X - 4 per box
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  12. #37
    I really hope that bit about 3 EXs per box, including the FAs, is not true. That would be absolutely horrifying in terms of completing Next Destinies. I mean there's six of EACH and that's not even counting the shiny cards!

  13. #38
    I hope its not because half of them are gonna come out in tins so its just such a downer when you pull those.

  14. #39
    Quote Originally Posted by Thundergod92 View Post
    I hope its not because half of them are gonna come out in tins so its just such a downer when you pull those.
    No way, there are a lot of people (myself included) that collect sets. Pulling any EX will be fine at any rate since there are no shortage of people looking for those cards to either play or collect. :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by nickgonzo View Post
    No way, there are a lot of people (myself included) that collect sets. Pulling any EX will be fine at any rate since there are no shortage of people looking for those cards to either play or collect. :)
    Sorry I was looking at it as a players only point of view. Every card is great for collectors since they collect every card (lol). But from a players standpoint the chances of pulling a mewtwo are now a little lower than expected. Still loving the set though nonetheless.
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    We are players as well. Trying to accrue 3-5 mewtwo before states( with a dismal 3 ex/box) will be daunting but I'm beginning to see that this set will be a proper challenge to collect as well. We got lucky @the NV prerelease and walked away with 1 of each FA. Which left only the meowth to find. That was a holdout card though, do to the condition of many early copies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ogremarauder View Post
    We are players as well. Trying to accrue 3-5 mewtwo before states( with a dismal 3 ex/box) will be daunting but I'm beginning to see that this set will be a proper challenge to collect as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDarkTwins View Post
    I'm sorry but Primes were too frequent. There weren't even really chasers. I think that you are wrong, I think it will go back to what it use to be, not what Primes were, plus they appeared in a different slot in the pack.
    The problem with Primes wasn't so much their rarity as their quality. Most of them just weren't really significantly better than the other versions.

    But if you didn't think Primes could be chased, look at Triumphant. EVERY Prime in the set save Absol has or has had a solid value. Even Celebi is climbing in price from at one point being a $3 card.
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    Anybody with any early PR numbers they care to share?
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    As I posted in another thread, at the prerelease I attended, the box we pulled from had 1 full art, and 2 regular ex, with no secret rares. And in the whole prerelease with well over 30 people and extra side events (first side event had 19 players stay, and second side event there were 6 of us), only 1 Mewtwo ex was pulled. However there were a number of secret cards pulled, Zoroark, Hydreigon, and another (can't remember which).
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    Quote Originally Posted by ogremarauder View Post
    Anybody with any early PR numbers they care to share?
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    The one I went to, it seemed like pretty much everyone got an EX. It looked like it is probably 2 regular EX per box, and 2 FA/SR per box.

    Of the EX's pulled, I'd estimate about 70 percent were Kyurem EX, followed by Mewtwo EX/Shaymin EX with 3-4 copies, and I think there were 2 each of Reshi EX and Zekrom EX.

    I managed to make it out with a Mewtwo EX, Zekrom EX, and Kyurem EX FA.

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    Those are fairly dismal #s. This is not going to be easy......
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    I've opened 2 boxes so far. I have 4 EX, 2 FA EX (both Zek), and a Shiny (Chandy).

    I'm thinking that the pull ratios will be something like 2-3 EX, 1-2 FA EX, and 0-1 Shiny (3 per case, maybe?)
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    Looks like 3 Mewtwo at our Prerelease. One FA, two Regular. Interestingly enough, 1 of the FA and 1 Regular sat right next to each other.

    EDIT-Four were pulled, one in the hands of a clueless new senior...
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