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Thread: Werewolf xvi the rise of team plasma: Town wins

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    For goodness' sake, whoever has that stupid "PEW" gun (Appears to be boots guy), YOU DON'T HIT A SEER-Unless you're not town, which looks very likely.

    I got paralyzed/Roleblocked.


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    Day 4 starts, 22 players left...I feels we probs know some of them to be townie by now, or is it too early to tell?

    Shall we work on who is confirmed townie, most likely townie, those unknown and work out from there to find out who could be wolfy?
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    ^That sounds like a solid plan!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jason View Post
    Day 4 starts, 22 players left...I feels we probs know some of them to be townie by now, or is it too early to tell?

    Shall we work on who is confirmed townie, most likely townie, those unknown and work out from there to find out who could be wolfy?
    You've been really quiet this game, why don't you start this conversation by posting your thoughts?

    I have a final at 8:30 am (about to start right now). Expect posts in a couple hours. It'll be nice to spend the day without a speech impediment.

    Also, the wolves are dumb. Napoleon said he would trade 1 for 1 with them if he died, and they still targeted him.
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    Sorry Wayne - you're kinda dead. XD

    On my way home, will post some thoughts very soon.

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    Hahaha, Waynegg went back to replacement list, cauz he didn't really have a chance as Redados' role...
    /quit.

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    @ Jason: These are our currently confirmed townies:

    Confirmed Townies:
    DragonClyne725
    jpulice
    AbsolTrainer
    KingPiplup
    Son_of_Apollo
    PokeChampOfPokeBeach

    Aside from that, I don't have much to add. I really thought Scottistru was going to be a wolf, I am surprised he isn't. I think our best course of action is to look to the past. I'm gonna look through older posts and try and find anything that might be suspicious.

    Also, the elephant in the room: PMysterious.

    What are we going to do about him? Is he just a really bad townie? Or could be he scum? I'm interested in people's thoughts on this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by King Piplup View Post
    For goodness' sake, whoever has that stupid "PEW" gun (Appears to be boots guy), YOU DON'T HIT A SEER-Unless you're not town, which looks very likely.

    I got paralyzed/Roleblocked.


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    Or, you hit a seer because you're can/are required to shoot someone (vigilante perhaps) and you had to take a guess as to who to shoot. I wouldn't automatically assume someone is anti town because they killed a seer. It happens.

    Quote Originally Posted by PokeChampofPokeBeach View Post
    @ Jason: These are our currently confirmed townies:

    Confirmed Townies:
    DragonClyne725
    jpulice
    AbsolTrainer
    KingPiplup
    Son_of_Apollo
    PokeChampOfPokeBeach

    Aside from that, I don't have much to add. I really thought Scottistru was going to be a wolf, I am surprised he isn't. I think our best course of action is to look to the past. I'm gonna look through older posts and try and find anything that might be suspicious.

    Also, the elephant in the room: PMysterious.

    What are we going to do about him? Is he just a really bad townie? Or could be he scum? I'm interested in people's thoughts on this.
    How are any of these confirmed townies? I know some are, but what about Absol? I missed a lot the last game day due to finals hell, so I would like, if possible, a brief explanation on how we know this info.

    PMysterious is either a really bad townie, or he could also be a really bad wolf. It would be hard to tell the difference. Can't really say for sure, since they both would play the same way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DarthPika View Post
    Or, you hit a seer because you're can/are required to shoot someone (vigilante perhaps) and you had to take a guess as to who to shoot. I wouldn't automatically assume someone is anti town because they killed a seer. It happens.



    How are any of these confirmed townies? I know some are, but what about Absol? I missed a lot the last game day due to finals hell, so I would like, if possible, a brief explanation on how we know this info.

    PMysterious is either a really bad townie, or he could also be a really bad wolf. It would be hard to tell the difference. Can't really say for sure, since they both would play the same way.
    Paralyzingly/Roleblocking a seer isn't anti-town?


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    My mistake, misread what it did. I thought it was killing people.
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    wolves usually dont have the seer or the roleblock roles.

    Pretty sure Diaz is not a wolf....so could add him to "more likely townie"
    /quit.

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    My final went both quickly and very well.

    Quote Originally Posted by King Piplup View Post
    For goodness' sake, whoever has that stupid "PEW" gun (Appears to be boots guy), YOU DON'T HIT A SEER-Unless you're not town, which looks very likely.

    I got paralyzed/Roleblocked.


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    The "PEW" guy is a wolf. Read through the old updates. He role-blocked me day one. I've been talking about this for days lol.


    Quote Originally Posted by Jason View Post
    Hahaha, Waynegg went back to replacement list, cauz he didn't really have a chance as Redados' role...
    AAM, Is he really back on the replacement list? (I see that he is, but it might just not be updated.)

    Quote Originally Posted by DarthPika View Post
    How are any of these confirmed townies? I know some are, but what about Absol? I missed a lot the last game day due to finals hell, so I would like, if possible, a brief explanation on how we know this info
    I think everyone but AT on that list has name-revealed as a character who could be hard-refuted by the town. AT gave us that superb wolf kill day 2. I think that that is enough to make him a less desirable lynch than anyone not on that list. (At least for now.)
    @Omega (aka Dr. Who, aka Guy who needs help when seer-ing, aka I know who you are): It seems like this is you?
    Two purposeful silhouettes stood up from the wall near the main entrance and began walking towards the opposite corner of the lounge. The shadows spoke in whispers and then remained silent for their journey. One of them was wielding some object and cautiously peered around the room as they glided. The other shadow did not seem to care for such paranoia and walked upright at a quick pace.
    I would suggest you don’t reveal who you are or the info you got last night. Leave that for the person that helped you.
    I’d also like to point out to the two of you (Omega and last night’s helper):
    If you found a wolf, the helper should say this right away.
    If you found a townie, confirming who the townie is now would probably be helpful.
    If you aren’t sure (if you only get partial information from your role), maybe it would be better to wait for that player to role-reveal, then either confirm or deny their story.
    Because there are two of you who know this info, you are in a unique position. Usually seers run the risk of dying before they reveal their info. It is highly unlikely that both of you will die at the same time, so you do have some wiggle room.
    Also, Omega, in the future I suggest using PokeChampofPokeBeach to help you seer (if you haven’t already). I think he has a null role at this point (searching for a dead person to become masons with). He can help you out and relay the info to the town.
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    @Diaz: I think I have nagged you about LaL enough. Don't do it again. There is a better target than you today from my research.

    @Jpulice, pikamaster, diaz, jewelquest: Would have been nice if you had listened to me a bit about scott. He didn't defend himself because he was away as he had said.

    @Darthpika: Glad your back, was worried that AAM would replace you.

    Bit of a thought.

    I don't think it is right to assume the wolves were stupid.

    It is quite possible that they traded one player who they did not value highly for taking out someone who was a huge threat.

    Which leads to the conclusion that the wolves were afraid of Napoleon. Very afraid.

    Once I realized this, I looked back for some changes in play style once Napoleon started posting yesterday. I haven't looked through the whole group of peeps yet. However one who was on my suspicion list jumped out to me when reviewing his posting style.

    Pmysterious' posting style changed drastically once napoleon started talking that day. He posted 12 times before napoleon posted. He posted twice after napoleon posted. This coupled with the fact that after reading through his posts he has been defending himself with unsubstantiated claims and making people feel guilty for attacking a new person.

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    Just posting between finals and working on psychology.

    Cantor, from my last post on the last game day to when that day ended, I had no chance to post and little chance to read new posts as I was having serious internet issues (the same ones that prevented DP from posting). I was surprised I could even bump.
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    I really didn't think Scott was a wolf. 2/2 now.

    Before I make my vote, this is important for my argument: did the wolves choose who to die? Did they know desufnoc was the one who was going to die?
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    Quote Originally Posted by PokeChampofPokeBeach View Post
    @ Jason: These are our currently confirmed townies:

    Confirmed Townies:
    DragonClyne725
    jpulice
    AbsolTrainer
    KingPiplup
    Son_of_Apollo
    PokeChampOfPokeBeach

    Aside from that, I don't have much to add. I really thought Scottistru was going to be a wolf, I am surprised he isn't. I think our best course of action is to look to the past. I'm gonna look through older posts and try and find anything that might be suspicious.

    Also, the elephant in the room: PMysterious.

    What are we going to do about him? Is he just a really bad townie? Or could be he scum? I'm interested in people's thoughts on this.

    Quote Originally Posted by DarthPika View Post
    How are any of these confirmed townies? I know some are, but what about Absol?
    @ DarthPika, welcome back and good question!

    I think that if you want to claim anyone CONFIRMED town, you need to backup your claims. As I had explained before its very risky to assume anyone belongs in this list because if a wolf somehow ends up here, he will be freed from scrutiny for a long time. Just because Absol gave us a kill, does not confirm him a townie. Again, I don't think his actions were suspicious, just that he cannot be CONFIRMED.

    Please refer to THIS link for a possible scenario as to why Absol cannot be CONFIRMED.

    That list would be more appropriately named "Not-Likely Scum" list.

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    3. Bluenation
    4. Jason
    5. Benzo
    9. Thunderjolt
    10. Pokemonfreak5
    11. Akane
    15. Jellyisher
    16. PikaMaster
    18. TheKing
    23. DarthPika
    24. JewelQuest
    25. Ultimatedra
    26. ProHawk
    28. PMysterious

    Here's my list of people that could be wolves. I took out the dead, the ones who revealed, and Diaz/Absoltrainer/Cantor. The last three aren't 100%, but they have contributed to the town's effort. I'm willing to give them the BOTD, maybe just for today.
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  19. #1644
    Question for Diaz, During the last game, you were sure that this list contained Ghetsis, why are you not advocating the continuation of probing from this list? The odds have gotten better.

    Quote Originally Posted by Diaz View Post
    From update. Implies Ghetsis voted for SS7, no? Maybe other wolves too. Common wolf strategy.

    SandSlash7 (10): AbsolTrainer, Diaz, DragonClyne725, PMysterious, Scottistru, Jellyfisher, Son_of_Apollo, PokechampOfPokebeach, Redados1, KingPiplup
    List of votes. Bump.
    I agree with Cantor, I believe that we should be focusing on PM, its time to put some substance behind our threats.

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    Actually, I think I can be cleared.

    King Piplup, I interacted with you in a certain way last night, and you should've received a PM or something from AAM telling you of this (something that wasn't a PM about you being role blocked). However, I'd rather not say what this interaction was, if I can avoid it.
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    ^ I also sugguest you disclosing this being avoided. I did in fact get a little message regarding that. Thank you, by the way.

    Also, I was wrong about the PEW gun. More concerning was the person that hit me with the laser last night. Very rude, and clearly YOU are anti-town.


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    @ DP: Believe it or not, everyone on that list (with the exception of Absoltrainer) has name/role-claimed. Absoltrainer practically gave us SS7, unless he's playing one of the riskiest gambits I've ever heard or something, I'd assume he's a complete townie.

    @ Jason: I know of at least one game where the Werewolves had a role-blocker. Keep in mind, AT gave every Wolf last time an ability of some sort. There were no vanilla wolves. Even considering that, they STILL lost. There is no telling what sort of advantages they have this game, I would think that Wolf role-blockers are the least of our worries at this point (and now apparently they have control of Reshiram...? It's not good, dude).

    @ Diaz: You are correct, my role is null. If Omega would like to enlist my assistance at this point, I'd be happy to help.

    @ Prohawk: True, with the exception of myself actually, now that I come to think of it, I'm not sure if anyone on that is list is 100% confirmed. I'm curious to hear other people's thoughts on the matter.

    In general, the only backup to my list is that everyone on the list (except for AT) has name-claimed. But I agree, that's more of a "not-likely scum list." So, just keep that list and read it is as such. It works for that purpose.

    @ Cantor:

    I agree. PMysterious has always been kinda fishy from the beginning of the game, we've spared him because he's new to the game, but his play has gotten no better. And that point you made about his play is excellent. I think it very much seems like PMysterious was playing around Napoleon, one of the greatest threats to the wolves at that point.

    PMysterious, time to make a credible defense. None of your play before now can save you, if you want to a chance of living through today, your play has got to improve VASTLY.

    Vote: PMysterious
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    Quote Originally Posted by King Piplup View Post
    ^ I also sugguest you disclosing this being avoided. I did in fact get a little message regarding that. Thank you, by the way.

    Also, I was wrong about the PEW gun. More concerning was the person that hit me with the laser last night. Very rude, and clearly YOU are anti-town.


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    Ignore the last part. I was stupid and read the update wrong. Boots guy is a wolf though? He's the one that for sure hit me.


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  24. #1649
    Players that have signed up:
    1. Diaz Boots guy Got hit by wolves
    2. DragonClyne725 GL Brycen 99% town
    3. Barkjon Bluenation ???
    4. Jason
    5. Benzo
    6. jpulice Probably the tired woman in the update 75% town
    7. Cabd - Gandalf the Grey: Killed Night 1
    8. AbsolTrainer Single-handedly took down SS7 99% town
    9. Baby Mario Thunderjolt
    10. Pokemonfreak5
    11. Akane
    12. Scottistru - Doc Brown: Lynched Day 3
    13. Sandslash7 - Saruman the White: Lynched Day 2
    14. KingPiplup Shauntal Seer 99%town
    15. Jellyisher
    16. PikaMaster
    17. AlmightyGoldenGarchompSon_of_Apollo GL Clay 99% town
    18. TheKing
    19. Dave628 - Team Plasma Defector: Lynched Day 1
    20. PokeChampOfPokeBeach Drayden 99% town
    21. Cantor
    22. Redados1 - Dobby: Killed Night 3
    23. DarthPika
    24. JewelQuest
    25. Ultimatedra
    26. ProHawk
    27. OrcMonkey2000 - Iris: Killed Night 1
    28. PMysterious
    29. Lil_Magma Napoleon - Bianca: Killed Night 3
    30. Desufnoc - Team Plasma Grunt: Killed Night 3
    31. Sdrawkcab - Arcanine: Killed Night 2


    Taking out the confirmed guys, this leaves us with:

    3. Barkjon Bluenation No info
    4. Jason Doesn't post much
    5. Benzo I don't have much of a read on him
    9. Baby Mario Thunderjolt I know I'm town, but that's not enough evidence for y'all.
    10. Pokemonfreak5
    11. Akane
    15. Jellyisher
    16. PikaMaster
    18. TheKing
    21. Cantor Makes contributing posts
    23. DarthPika
    24. JewelQuest Makes contributing posts
    25. Ultimatedra
    26. ProHawk Makes contributing posts
    28. PMysterious Village Idiot so far, kind of recovered himself.

    Out of these candidates, I still would not know who to vote for, but I hope this narrows things down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by King Piplup View Post
    ^ I also sugguest you disclosing this being avoided. I did in fact get a little message regarding that. Thank you, by the way.
    So you want me to say what this interaction was? I will, if you want me to.
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