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    Kaijudo: Rise of the Duel Masters

    So as you may have already heard, Wizards of the Coast and Hasbro are already planning on bringing back the Duel Masters TCG to the U.S. with a brand new Animated Series being aired exclusively on The Hub. The catch is that they are basically starting the game over from scratch instead of trying to keep up with the Duel Masters OCG in Japan right now and the New Animated Series is not a continuation of the 1st Duel Masters Anime starring Shobu as the Main Protagonist.

    With that said, what do you guys feel will become more popular in the U.S.? Kaijudo or Cardfight!! Vanguard? Now I've been going on other forums talking about this and I feel personally that Vanguard will become more popular than Kaijudo here in the U.S., I could be wrong however it's hard for me to tell since I haven't seen any episodes of the Kaijudo Animated Series yet to resurrect this poorly marketed franchise that died in the wake of Yu-Gi-Oh!'s ongoing popularity.

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    Whichever company markets there game better will win. It's that simple.

    EDIT: I'll expand on this a little bit. Wizards of the Coast and Hasbro are a massive marketing machine. Cardfight! Vanaguard is only a tiny niche game where most of the players import Japanese cards and the American distributor is tiny and has very little money.

    I think we know who wins this one. (And I actually think Kaijudo looks really, really good. I may try this one).
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    While Duel Masters had great game mechanics, the anime made me want to rip my eyes out and set them on fire. I feel the anime totally killed the game and from what i understand the new anime isn't much better.
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    Well there is a new Duel Masters Animated Series premiering on The Hub and apparently it's more convienent for the show to be aired on that channel instead of Cartoon Network cause Hasbro owns The Hub as a Channel. The new Animated Series in terms of Animation is sort of akin to the Avatar Series on Nickelodeon. So I think it's apparent that Kaijudo wins over Vanguard simply because well Raen hit the nail on the head on this one.

    I remember when I used to play Duel Masters before I got out of Yu-Gi-Oh! back in 2004 and it was pretty fun. I think the biggest problem with Duel Masters was that alot of people judged it as a terribly dumbed down version of Magic: The Gathering for kids where as they see something like Vanguard and they're like "Wow this is cool and the Game Mechanics are original!" That sort of thing plus it's sort of more Mature oriented. In terms of Game Mechanics I say Vanguard is better since I'm looking into Kaijudo knowing it's going to play exactly like Duel Masters with a few gimmicks here and there.

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    So Wizards of the Coast and Hasbro already have the Online Demo setup for the Kaijudo TCG and someone on YouTube is seen here playing through it although some people are saying that the Online Demo has nothing to do with the actual Kaijudo TCG. Click the video below to judge for yourself:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rMdy...ature=youtu.be

    From what I understand of the Demo, the actual TCG game rules are simple. Each player starts with 3 Shields, in Duel Masters you had 5. The first player to break all 3 of the other players' Shields wins the game. You have your Main Creature to do battle and the other Creatures you play are called "Supporters" to boost the attack power of your Main Creature to overpower your Opponent's Main Creature. When you overpower your Opponent's Main Creature you break a Shield.

    The "Supporters" that are played to boost the attack power of your Main Creature do have special abilities or card effects that kick off depending on what Colors/Civilizations you're playing based on them. For example If you're playing the Water Civilization (Blue in MTG) then you're going to get alot of drawpower as in the case with the demo portrayed in the YouTube link I posted here.

    For the Creatures themselves they are basically the same as in the old Duel Masters TCG but modified to fit into the new game mechanics of the Kaijudo TCG which confirms that the Kaijudo TCG isn't backwards compatible with the old English Duel Masters TCG. The TCG still also has the same 5 Civilizations of the old Duel Masters TCG, judging from the gameplay I saw of the Online Demo I'm going to go out on a limb and say it plays ALOT like Cardfight!! Vanguard except it's more like a dumbed down version of it I suppose.

    There's no blocking for your Main Creature or playing cards from the top of your deck to boost the power of your Main Creature. It just seems too straightforward with not much skill involved as compared to Cardfight!! Vanguard which does have quite a bit of skill involved depending on which Clans you're running but it is about as luck based as
    Yu-Gi-Oh! with the topdeck triggers and all. Judging from the Online Demo again, I'd still say Vanguard is WAY more fun than Kaijudo.

    The YouTube user whose video I linked to also uploaded a new video regarding her reactions to Kaijudo: Rise of the Duel Masters with some interesting feedback as well:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FE4BHPwTfwQ

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    So...this is like a spinoff of Duel Masters specifically "dumbed down" for the US market? Or what exactly...I vaguely remember Duel Masters when it came over to the US, like BJJ763 I wanted to rip my bleeding eyes out of my sockets to stuff them in my ears when it came to the anime, but the TCG itself didn't seem too shabby, almost like a simple (in ways, mind you anything could get elaborate) version of YGO and MTG combined. But this new version seems kinda eh...

    Then again I've never heard of this card vanguard thingy either, so eh. For me, Pokemon is enough of a TCG to be involved in lol, the only one I reeeaaallllyyy miss from back in the day was Magi-Nation, as that had great concept, awesome artwork and lore, and a great funny GBC game to go with it (unlike its current fail cartoon incarnation, which should be set on fire and never spoken of again).
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    Let's be frank here gentlefolk.

    Kaijudo isn't Duel Masters. It's Vanguard where your damage zone is replaced with your three shields. It's also just Vanguard without the balancing effect of triggers. It's also just Vanguard for people who can't play Vanguard.

    Nobody who sees this new Duel Masters and then sees Vanguard would ever consider Kaijudo.
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    Lol, Napoleon. Just lol.

    Kaijudo is Duel Masters. Truly, the card games will be no different, except that some balancing will be done for the US.

    The Battle Game on their website has VERY LITTLE to do with the card game.
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    There's a Wiki now available for the Kaijudo TCG with cards already spoiled from the new Starter Decks and Base Set. You can check it out by clicking the link below:

    http://kaijudo.wikia.com/wiki/Kaijudo_Wiki

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    Is there a list of already revealed cards anywhere?
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    All the current Kaijudo TCG cards are on the link below:

    http://kaijudo.wikia.com/wiki/Tatsur...r_Battle_Decks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raen View Post
    Whichever company markets there game better will win. It's that simple.

    EDIT: I'll expand on this a little bit. Wizards of the Coast and Hasbro are a massive marketing machine. Cardfight! Vanaguard is only a tiny niche game where most of the players import Japanese cards and the American distributor is tiny and has very little money.

    I think we know who wins this one. (And I actually think Kaijudo looks really, really good. I may try this one).
    HAH!

    I'm sorry, this made me laugh.

    I've already put 2,000 dollars into Cardfight!! Vanguard, as well as other people in the Edmonton area. Lots of people, in fact. And y'know what? It's consistently selling out.

    For such a tiny marketing machine, they sure are popular by word of mouth alone.

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    Guy who put 2 grand into a game thinks it will be successful. Imagine that.
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    The anime will kill it.
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    It's not an anime it's a western cartoon series similiar to shows like Young Justice, Thundercats 2011, and Avatar: The Legend of Korra. Here's the first three episodes of the Kaijudo Cartoon Online:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qAoO...eature=related

    Also for more Kaijudo TCG news, here's a photo of the actual TCG being played:

    http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/6...9070815482.jpg

    Yep it's Duel Masters 2.0...
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