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    http://pokegym.net/forums/view.php?pg=stdformat

    The Expanded and Standard legal card lists have been updated.
    Not too much changed on Expanded, but I'm sure I've missed some things on the Standard list.
    Please let me know and I'll fix them.
    Thanks!
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    Corrections to the Standard List:

    Potion {KSS} should be Potion {BKP}
    Double Colorless Energy {PHF} should be Double Colorless Energy {FCO} or {GEN}
    Maintenance {FFI} should be Maintenance {GEN}
    Switch {KSS} should be Switch {ROS}

    There is quite a few old references that doesn't point to the lastest version.

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    I'm not looking for those corrections.
    I will update them when I have time.
    Looking for missing cards
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    Well, you did leave NVI Pawniard in as legal in Standard when KSS rotated out.

    The big one, though, is that for whatever reason, the 2014 McDonald's set is still legal, which is entirely comprised of cards from KSS and XY, which means there are a LOT of missing cards. The Furfrou alone is in KSS, both halves of the Sylveon/Noivern Trainer Kit, Flashfire and Phantom Forces.

    Another big one is the number of older Pokemon reprinted in Generations. There are a LOT of them. (Probably more than half the set is reprints of cards from sets that rotated out, mostly Flashfire and Furious Fists.) It contains (bet I'll miss some):
    From XY: Shellder, Cloyster, Pikachu, Raichu (also in the RC), Diglett, Dugtrio, Tauros, Yveltal (RC)
    From FLF: Caterpie, Metapod, Butterfree, Ponyta, Rapidash, Geodude, Graveler, Golem, Snorlax, Flabebe (RC), Floette (RC), Meowstic (RC)
    From FFI: Magmar, Jynx, Machop, Machoke, Machamp, Hitmonlee, Hitmonchan, Clefairy, Clefable
    From PHF: Krabby, Zubat, Golbat, Swirlix (RC), Diancie (RC)

    The XY Venusaur-EX and Blastoise-EX, and Combustion Blast FLF Charizard-EX were reprinted as Black Star Promos.

    Several older XY Black Star promos have been reprinted as well. (1-3 were in the 2014 McDonald's set, 5 in Steam Siege, 6 in Generations' RC, 13 in Generations, 27 is also Champions Festival (incidentally, you misnamed the BW promo one), 28-30 are the EXes mentioned in my previous point.)


    Might have missed some stuff, but that'll probably keep you busy anyway, huh.

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    Great! Thanks. Something to do this weekend!
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    The list is missing also Fletchling from Phantom Forces which was reprinted in Latias Trainer Kit, making it the only card saved from rotation by Trainer Kits this year. Adding to what rivershock mentioned above, Charizard-EX XY29 is the rotated one (Stoke) not the one which was later reprinted (Combustion Blast).

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    Incidentally, I missed Phantom Forces Wobbuffet from my list, which was reprinted in Generations' Radiant Collection.

    And oops, sorry about the Charizard. Honestly, I forgot those tins even existed until I was looking through the promos to see what was still in.

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    Also, the prerelease Machamp promo, and Clefairy and Clefable from the Wigglytuff Trainer Kit, were all reprinted in Generations.
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  9. #284
    Hey PokePop! It seems that four sets from which you removed Super Scoop Up after the Standard rotation were wiped by accident entirely. No cards are listed in these sections: Neo Genesis, Expedition, DP: Majestic Dawn and HS: Unleashed.

    The other three that had it EX: FireRed LeafGreen, EX: Delta Species, and Diamond & Pearl seem to be unaffected but I would double-check the card lists, just in case.

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    That reminds me. The Standard list also only lists the first of the four XY Trainer Kits. (Not a big deal for the last 2, since they're within the legal sets, but it does matter for the Bisharp/Wigglytuff since it's out of rotation but contains subsequently reprinted Tierno, Potion, Swirlix, Clefairy and Clefable.)

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    Just checked the whole list against my own database. These are the cards I am missing, already in your format ^_^

    Expedition:
    Potion 156/165 {KSS} Errata issued. No reference needed.
    Switch 157/165 {KSS}

    Majestic Dawn:
    Poké Ball 85/100 {KSS}

    Noble Victories:
    Pawniard 81/101 {KSS} ---> REMOVE

    XY:
    Venusaur EX 1/146 {XYP}
    Blastoise EX 29/146 {XYP}
    Shellder 31/146 {GEN}
    Cloyster 32/146 {GEN}
    Pikachu 42/146 {GEN}
    Raichu 43/146 {GEN}
    Diglett 58/146 {GEN}
    Dugtrio 59/146 {GEN}
    Tauros 100/146 {GEN}
    Venusaur EX 141/146 {XYP}
    Blastoise EX 142/146 {XYP}

    XY: Flashfire
    Caterpie 1/106 {GEN}
    Metapod 2/106 {GEN}
    Butterfree 3/106 {GEN}
    Charizard EX 12/106 {XYP}
    Ponyta 14/106 {GEN}
    Rapidash 15/106 {GEN}
    Spheal 24/106 {PRC}
    Meowstic 43/106 {GEN}
    Geodude 45/106 {GEN}
    Graveler 46/106 {GEN}
    Golem 47/106 {GEN}
    Flabébé 63/106 {GEN}
    Floette 65/106 {GEN}
    Snorlax 80/106 {GEN}

    XY: Furious Fists
    Magmar 10/111 {GEN}
    Jynx 37/111 {GEN}
    Machop 44/111 {GEN}
    Machoke 45/111 {GEN}
    Machamp 46/111 {GEN}
    Hitmonlee 47/111 {GEN}
    Hitmonchan 48/111 {GEN}
    Clefairy 69/111 {GEN}
    Clefable 71/111 {GEN}

    XY: Phantom Forces
    Krabby 13/119 {GEN}
    Zubat 31/119 {GEN}
    Golbat 32/119 {GEN}
    Wobbuffet 36/119 {GEN}
    Swirlix 68/119 {GEN}
    Diancie 71/119 {GEN}
    Fletchling 89/119 {XY Trainer Kit: Latios & Latias}

    TPCi Blackstar Promos
    N BW100 {FCO}
    Xerneas XY05 {STS}
    Yveltal XY06 {STS}
    Machamp XY13 {GEN}
    Champions Festival XY27 {XYP}
    Venusaur EX XY28 {XYP}
    Blastoise EX XY30 {XYP}

    McDonalds Sets [NB: Only legal now is 2015 collection. 2014 collection is marked as legal, this is not correct]
    Pikachu 5/12 {GEN}

    XY Trainer Kit: Wigglytuff & Bisharp
    Clefairy {GEN}
    Clefable {GEN}
    Potion {BKP}
    Tierno {BKP}

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    Thanks, this was a big help!
    I could have sworn that the Standard announcement included McD 2014. Did they remove that?
    Quote Originally Posted by Melkor View Post
    Just checked the whole list against my own database. These are the cards I am missing, already in your format ^_^

    Expedition:
    Potion 156/165 {KSS} Errata issued. No reference needed.
    Switch 157/165 {KSS}

    Majestic Dawn:
    Poké Ball 85/100 {KSS}

    Noble Victories:
    Pawniard 81/101 {KSS} ---> REMOVE

    XY:
    Venusaur EX 1/146 {XYP}
    Blastoise EX 29/146 {XYP}
    Shellder 31/146 {GEN}
    Cloyster 32/146 {GEN}
    Pikachu 42/146 {GEN}
    Raichu 43/146 {GEN}
    Diglett 58/146 {GEN}
    Dugtrio 59/146 {GEN}
    Tauros 100/146 {GEN}
    Venusaur EX 141/146 {XYP}
    Blastoise EX 142/146 {XYP}

    XY: Flashfire
    Caterpie 1/106 {GEN}
    Metapod 2/106 {GEN}
    Butterfree 3/106 {GEN}
    Charizard EX 12/106 {XYP}
    Ponyta 14/106 {GEN}
    Rapidash 15/106 {GEN}
    Spheal 24/106 {PRC}
    Meowstic 43/106 {GEN}
    Geodude 45/106 {GEN}
    Graveler 46/106 {GEN}
    Golem 47/106 {GEN}
    Flabébé 63/106 {GEN}
    Floette 65/106 {GEN}
    Snorlax 80/106 {GEN}

    XY: Furious Fists
    Magmar 10/111 {GEN}
    Jynx 37/111 {GEN}
    Machop 44/111 {GEN}
    Machoke 45/111 {GEN}
    Machamp 46/111 {GEN}
    Hitmonlee 47/111 {GEN}
    Hitmonchan 48/111 {GEN}
    Clefairy 69/111 {GEN}
    Clefable 71/111 {GEN}

    XY: Phantom Forces
    Krabby 13/119 {GEN}
    Zubat 31/119 {GEN}
    Golbat 32/119 {GEN}
    Wobbuffet 36/119 {GEN}
    Swirlix 68/119 {GEN}
    Diancie 71/119 {GEN}
    Fletchling 89/119 {XY Trainer Kit: Latios & Latias}

    TPCi Blackstar Promos
    N BW100 {FCO}
    Xerneas XY05 {STS}
    Yveltal XY06 {STS}
    Machamp XY13 {GEN}
    Champions Festival XY27 {XYP}
    Venusaur EX XY28 {XYP}
    Blastoise EX XY30 {XYP}

    McDonalds Sets [NB: Only legal now is 2015 collection. 2014 collection is marked as legal, this is not correct]
    Pikachu 5/12 {GEN}

    XY Trainer Kit: Wigglytuff & Bisharp
    Clefairy {GEN}
    Clefable {GEN}
    Potion {BKP}
    Tierno {BKP}
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    Quote Originally Posted by PokePop View Post
    Thanks, this was a big help!
    I could have sworn that the Standard announcement included McD 2014. Did they remove that?
    Yes, they did at some point. Had to resettle the legality of several cards as a result of this, but it was probably better to remove this collection as it reprinted several cards from rotated collections, resulting in a bit of a mess.

    TPCi just edited this list, no announcement made:
    http://www.pokemon.com/us/pokemon-ne...tion-for-2017/

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    I'll make sure to update my list with that info as well.
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    Me again, Judge and Rare Candy are missing from HS: Unleashed in Standard.

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    Mew EX has been reprinted by XYP 126.

    Official release date: 14 September
    Standard format since: 30 September
    http://www.pokemon.com/us/pokemon-tc...um-collection/

    Reprints the following cards:

    BW: Dragons Exalted
    Mew EX 46/124 {XYP}
    Mew EX 120/124 {XYP}

    BW: Legendary Treasures
    Mew EX RC24/RC25 {XYP}

  17. #292
    Evolutions Caterpie, Weedle and Surfing Pikachu are identical to their original counterparts. (Base Set/Base Set 2/Legendary Collection for Caterpie and Weedle, and Wizards Promo and Rising Rivals for Surfing Pikachu.)

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    Updated with the corrections noted above and changes due to Burning Shadows and new Ban List.
    Please let me know what I have missed, as always.
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    The following cards also survived the rotation:

    Taillow (Roaring Skies 70) - Pikachu Libre/Suicune Trainer Kit
    Electrike (Roaring Skies 24) - Pikachu Libre/Suicune Trainer Kit
    Manectric (Roaring Skies 25) - Pikachu Libre/Suicune Trainer Kit
    Fletchling (Roaring Skies 82) - Pikachu Libre/Suicune Trainer Kit
    Eevee (Ancient Origins 63) - Pikachu Libre/Suicune Trainer Kit/McDonald's 2016
    Vulpix (Primal Clash 20) - McDonald's 2016
    Torchic (Primal Clash 25/Promo XY37/McDonald's 2015) - McDonald's 2016
    Fennekin (XY 24) - McDonald's 2016
    Totodile (Phantom Forces 15) - McDonald's 2016
    Pikachu (Roaring Skies 20/McDonald's 2015) - McDonald's 2016
    Scraggy (Furious Fists 66) - McDonald's 2016
    Jigglypuff (XY 87/Bisharp-Wigglytuff Trainer Kit) - McDonald's 2016
    Togepi (Roaring Skies 43) - McDonald's 2016
    Dedenne (Phantom Forces 70) - McDonald's 2016
    Meowth (Ancient Origins 61) - McDonald's 2016
    Swablu (Roaring Skies 73) - Breakthrough/Generations
    Articuno (Roaring Skies 16) - Generations
    Zapdos (Roaring Skies 23) - Generations
    Latios EX (Roaring Skies 58/Roaring Skies 101) - Promo XY72
    Tangela (Primal Clash 4) - Generations
    Rhyhorn (Primal Clash 74/Latios Trainer Kit/McDonald's 2015) - Generations
    Super Scoop Up (BW 103) - Burning Shadows
    Gardevoir EX (Primal Clash 105/Primal Clash 155) - Generations Radiant Collection
    M Gardevoir EX (Primal Clash 106/Primal Clash 156) - Generations Radiant Collection
    Machamp EX (Ancient Origins 37/Ancient Origins 90) - Promo XY108
    Pokedex (Base Set 2 115) - Evolutions

    Phantom Forces Fletchling should no longer Standard-legal. (The Latios Trainer Kit rotated.)
    Flashfire Spheal should no longer be Standard-legal. (Primal Clash rotated.)
    You misspelled Rayquaza in Roaring Skies and TPCi Black Star Promos.

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    Thanks for the list!
    I hadn't finished updating it yet which is why I hadn't announced it, but this will help me finish it up!

    Quote Originally Posted by rivershock View Post
    The following cards also survived the rotation:

    Taillow (Roaring Skies 70) - Pikachu Libre/Suicune Trainer Kit
    Electrike (Roaring Skies 24) - Pikachu Libre/Suicune Trainer Kit
    Manectric (Roaring Skies 25) - Pikachu Libre/Suicune Trainer Kit
    Fletchling (Roaring Skies 82) - Pikachu Libre/Suicune Trainer Kit
    Eevee (Ancient Origins 63) - Pikachu Libre/Suicune Trainer Kit/McDonald's 2016
    Vulpix (Primal Clash 20) - McDonald's 2016
    Torchic (Primal Clash 25/Promo XY37/McDonald's 2015) - McDonald's 2016
    Fennekin (XY 24) - McDonald's 2016
    Totodile (Phantom Forces 15) - McDonald's 2016
    Pikachu (Roaring Skies 20/McDonald's 2015) - McDonald's 2016
    Scraggy (Furious Fists 66) - McDonald's 2016
    Jigglypuff (XY 87/Bisharp-Wigglytuff Trainer Kit) - McDonald's 2016
    Togepi (Roaring Skies 43) - McDonald's 2016
    Dedenne (Phantom Forces 70) - McDonald's 2016
    Meowth (Ancient Origins 61) - McDonald's 2016
    Swablu (Roaring Skies 73) - Breakthrough/Generations
    Articuno (Roaring Skies 16) - Generations
    Zapdos (Roaring Skies 23) - Generations
    Latios EX (Roaring Skies 58/Roaring Skies 101) - Promo XY72
    Tangela (Primal Clash 4) - Generations
    Rhyhorn (Primal Clash 74/Latios Trainer Kit/McDonald's 2015) - Generations
    Super Scoop Up (BW 103) - Burning Shadows
    Gardevoir EX (Primal Clash 105/Primal Clash 155) - Generations Radiant Collection
    M Gardevoir EX (Primal Clash 106/Primal Clash 156) - Generations Radiant Collection
    Machamp EX (Ancient Origins 37/Ancient Origins 90) - Promo XY108
    Pokedex (Base Set 2 115) - Evolutions

    Phantom Forces Fletchling should no longer Standard-legal. (The Latios Trainer Kit rotated.)
    Flashfire Spheal should no longer be Standard-legal. (Primal Clash rotated.)
    You misspelled Rayquaza in Roaring Skies and TPCi Black Star Promos.
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    Some Help For The Main Article

    First time poster, but very interested in how the Standard legal list is laid out. Helps a lot for a new-ish player to figure out what physical cards from rotated sets can be kept within a Standard legal binder.

    With that said, here are a few comments/omissions, mostly to do with Items:

    Latest Reprint Updates:
    • Maintenance - Most recent reprint is in {EVO}. Currently listed as {FFI} and {GEN}
    • Potion - Most recent reprint is in {SUM}. Currently listed as {KSS} and {BKP}
    • Switch - Most recent reprint is in {SUM}. Currently listed as {KSS}, {BKP}, and the correct {SUM}
    • Double Colorless Energy - Most recent reprint is in {SUM} (or {GRI} for the Secret Rare). Currently listed as {XY}, {PHF}, and {FCO}
    • Poké Ball - Most recent reprint is in {SUM}. Currently listed as {XY}, {PHF}, and {FCO}
    • Energy Switch - Most recent reprint is in {SUM}. Currently listed as {FFI}, {ROS}, {EVO}, and the correct {SUM}
    • Rainbow Energy - Most recent reprint is in {SUM}. Currently listed as {XY} and {BKT}
    • Rare Candy - Most recent reprint is in {SUM} (or {GRI} for the Secret Rare). Currently listed as {PRC}, {PLB}, {KSS}, and the correct {GRI}
    • Great Ball - Most recent reprint is in {SUM}. Currently listed as {XY} and {BKP}
    • Energy Retrieval - Most recent reprint is in {SUM}. Currently listed as {PRC}, and the correct {SUM}
    • Revive - Most recent reprint is in {EVO}. Currently listed as {ROS}, and the correct {EVO}
    • Crushing Hammer - Most recent reprint is in {SUM}. Currently listed as {KSS} and {GEN}
    • Max Potion - Most recent reprint is in {GRI}. Currently listed as {BKP}
    • Pokemon Catcher - Most recent reprint is in {SUM}. Currently listed as {KSS} and {BKP}
    • EXP. Share - Most recent reprint is in {SUM}. Currently listed as {PRC}, and the correct {SUM}
    • Enhanced Hammer - Most recent reprint is in {GRI}. Currently listed as {PHF}, {PRC}, and the correct {GRI}
    • Ultra Ball - Most recent reprint is in {SUM}. Currently listed as {FLF}, {ROS} and {FCO}
    • Devolution Spray - Most recent reprint is in {EVO}. Currently listed as {FCO}
    • Skyla - Most recent reprint is in {BKP} for the Secret Rare. Currently listed as {BKT}
    • Escape Rope - Most recent reprint is in {BUS}. Currently listed as {PRC}, and the correct {BUS}
    • Tierno - Most recent reprint is in {TK:PS}. Currently listed as {BKP}


    Formatting Issues:
    • In the BW: Next Destinies row, the formatting needs to be fixed to place DCE on its own line
    • In the XY row, the formatting needs to fixed to place Shellder on its own line


    Other:
    • Devolution Spray BS - Is the Base Set version not legal at all or does it require errata?
    • Double Crisis had no Basic Energy cards so the note needs to say that "No cards from this set are legal in Standard"
    • The McDonalds 2017 Set is missing from the list. All 12 Basic Pokémon are reprints of a Sun & Moon era Pokémon except for Pikachu which is a reprint of SM04
    • As above with Double Crisis, there are no Basic Energy cards in all the McDonalds sets, and to be honest, a lot of the promo sets so it may be better to just state that no cards from those sets are legal rather than the current statement


    Hope this helps maintaining the main initial post.
    Last edited by Nyth; 09/12/2017 at 07:17 AM. Reason: Spray was missing from Devolution Spray description

  22. #297
    You seem to have missed the Primal Clash Mega Gardevoir EX. (Though I could have sworn it was on there at one point.) The Generations Radiant Collection print is indeed a reprint of it.

    You mislabeled M Charizard EX (Flashfire 13) as a regular Charizard EX.

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