Legend Maker Cradily

MattDarksands · 02/24/2006, 09:31 AM

I was wondering if anyone has found any decent combos with the new Cradily yet. Being able to shuffle evos back into the opponent's deck is awesome, but I was thinking of sticking it in with something that c an hit multiple pkmn at one time (ie: Dark Raticate's Poison Spread) but if there's something better that'd be great since Rocket is on the way out.

*Ditto* · 02/24/2006, 09:39 AM

There are quite a few pokemon now that can spread damage around (Jynx, Gengar, Medicham, etc...) but it seems like there are better combos for those cards than Cradily. Jynx seems like it would fit the easiest, since it's easier to get out, but who knows. Personally, I really like the Cradily, but as you said, not sure what to play it with.

MattDarksands · 02/24/2006, 02:04 PM

yea I was considering Jynx too. I pretty much decided against Gengar because, like you said, there are better combos. I'm thinking of trying a Cradily/BanetteEX combo if I can get enough.

Kempley05 · 02/24/2006, 02:11 PM

Personally the obvious choice seems to be Drk Ampharos in a rock lock style deck, you could just use Cradillys 2nd attack to spread damage rather than Jynx and everything. Or even Ninjask so they can't attack - Amphy seems the best though.

*Archaic* · 02/25/2006, 02:22 PM

Is it though? Cradily shuffles the evolutions back into the deck, it doesn't just put them into the hand like ATM Rock does.

I've seen a combination between Cradily and Registeel ex EM played, which was rather interesting, but unless you're going to somehow tech Cradily into a Mercury style of deck (which I would highly not recommend), then it's a bit hard to see those cards working well together. I do think they had the right sort of idea though. Combine Cradily with a Pokémon that has a Spinning Tail like attack, preferably either basic or stage 1, and with a low retreat cost (or on which you can at least throw a Fluffy Berry or Holon Energy WP or something).

zapdos ex · 02/25/2006, 02:24 PM

u could use d ttart with spinning tail i guess.

*Archaic* · 02/25/2006, 06:44 PM

Problem there being it's a 2rd stage evo, and needs special energies.

Dark_Jirachi · 02/25/2006, 08:10 PM

think jynx is better.
1. maybe basic or syage
2. if stage 1, it is not affected by DRE.
3. 4 damage counter is pretty much to take out a basic.
4. It has no weakness! if it evolves.

*Ky00ber the III* · 02/26/2006, 03:35 AM

D. Amphy
1. More HP
2. Can use darkness
3.Does not need to be active
4. Better typing, imo.

zapdos ex · 02/26/2006, 12:12 PM

or just use a stupid flippin yanma.

arctic_frost · 02/26/2006, 12:22 PM

Cradilly as a card is broken, but it's not playable. I've tried a Cradilly deck, and there comes a point where you just think "what now?" If you're playing against a deck with big basics in it, then you're screwed, as 50 a turn isn't enough to win.

zapdos ex · 02/26/2006, 12:23 PM

yeah, so basically, against a zre, your pretty much screwed.

MattDarksands · 02/27/2006, 09:25 AM

I haven't seen to much trouble from big basics because I have a couple of the Legend Maker Tangela's in my deck. Sure they are freakin' weak, but they can't be hit by basics when they use thier first attack, plus I can either Briney them or attach a React energy should they take too much damage. The only downside is only having 60HP. Anyone else besides me miss the old days where Basics that don't evolve always had 70HP...

*DarkMagnus* · 02/27/2006, 10:03 AM

see i like the card too and i've been testing the crap outta it but i find it lacking. it has nothing that can back it up well, and has 100hp and weak to fire which is gunna be a storm right now with K9( cough crap cough) which will still see play and typhlo. and even with an nrg root its still not gunna survive much. and the format is to fast right now for it.. i think we might just have to wait to see what future sets will release to help it

P.S this is what part of the alphabet would look like if Q and R were eliminated.

P.P.S. we could all just say that we should use it with huntail/Delcatty (Cough crap Cough)

MattDarksands · 02/27/2006, 10:06 AM

Yea, fire is big now cuza RK9. I hate him so....

*DarkMagnus* · 02/27/2006, 11:03 AM

and he's such garbage imo .... well nothing super anyway he's only got 120 hp thats like 2hko range for almost anything.... heck even the lily could do it if done right... but that still doesn't make it any less dangerouis for lily

zapdos ex · 02/27/2006, 04:15 PM

tho some grs isn't weak against fire.
arcanine ex is cool, you try using it.

BENDINGSPOONS1 · 03/01/2006, 03:15 PM

i don't know but maybe Cradily/espeon ex/pidgeot/jirachi DX

or for players that want a deck that is really cheap.. try

roselia, pidgeot, cradily, wynaut and wobbefet.. ER2, react energy, switch, desert ruins

first poison the foe with roselia while pulling uip something vulnerable such as jirachi, have wobbefets out they can't retreat then send up cradily use the liner attack while healing every turn with react energy thanx to roselia. then devolve them when it's time.......... kinda like rock-lock and medicham put together poor mans style...

zapdos ex · 03/01/2006, 03:36 PM

just use a fossil swarm or something.

02/24/2006, 09:39 AM	#2
Ditto Images: 4	There are quite a few pokemon now that can spread damage around (Jynx, Gengar, Medicham, etc...) but it seems like there are better combos for those cards than Cradily. Jynx seems like it would fit the easiest, since it's easier to get out, but who knows. Personally, I really like the Cradily, but as you said, not sure what to play it with. __________________ doeiqts's Pokemon Price Guide PTCGO Code Scanner +doeiqts @doeiqts Facebook: doeiqts

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02/24/2006, 09:31 AM	#1
MattDarksands	Legend Maker Cradily I was wondering if anyone has found any decent combos with the new Cradily yet. Being able to shuffle evos back into the opponent's deck is awesome, but I was thinking of sticking it in with something that c an hit multiple pkmn at one time (ie: Dark Raticate's Poison Spread) but if there's something better that'd be great since Rocket is on the way out.

02/24/2006, 02:04 PM	#3
MattDarksands	Yea yea I was considering Jynx too. I pretty much decided against Gengar because, like you said, there are better combos. I'm thinking of trying a Cradily/BanetteEX combo if I can get enough.

02/24/2006, 02:11 PM	#4
Kempley05	Personally the obvious choice seems to be Drk Ampharos in a rock lock style deck, you could just use Cradillys 2nd attack to spread damage rather than Jynx and everything. Or even Ninjask so they can't attack - Amphy seems the best though.

02/25/2006, 02:22 PM	#5
Archaic	Is it though? Cradily shuffles the evolutions back into the deck, it doesn't just put them into the hand like ATM Rock does. I've seen a combination between Cradily and Registeel ex EM played, which was rather interesting, but unless you're going to somehow tech Cradily into a Mercury style of deck (which I would highly not recommend), then it's a bit hard to see those cards working well together. I do think they had the right sort of idea though. Combine Cradily with a Pokémon that has a Spinning Tail like attack, preferably either basic or stage 1, and with a low retreat cost (or on which you can at least throw a Fluffy Berry or Holon Energy WP or something). __________________ Webmaster, Bulbagarden.net Home of the Bulbapedia - the community-driven Pokémon encyclopedia; and Bulbanews - your community Pokémon newspaper

02/25/2006, 02:24 PM	#6
zapdos ex	u could use d ttart with spinning tail i guess. __________________ Co-Founder of Team SoCal 14- Elites:11-14 Corps ^Leaves you to wonder if i should actually play this game, 'cause i suck at this game 1st at Irvine Gym Challenge! hehe, and number 35 at worlds 2006....with ZRE...hehe.

02/25/2006, 06:44 PM	#7
Archaic	Problem there being it's a 2rd stage evo, and needs special energies. __________________ Webmaster, Bulbagarden.net Home of the Bulbapedia - the community-driven Pokémon encyclopedia; and Bulbanews - your community Pokémon newspaper

02/25/2006, 08:10 PM	#8
Dark_Jirachi	think jynx is better. 1. maybe basic or syage 2. if stage 1, it is not affected by DRE. 3. 4 damage counter is pretty much to take out a basic. 4. It has no weakness! if it evolves. __________________ I don't have any signature. Do I?

02/26/2006, 03:35 AM	#9
Ky00ber the III	D. Amphy 1. More HP 2. Can use darkness 3.Does not need to be active 4. Better typing, imo.

02/26/2006, 12:12 PM	#10
zapdos ex	or just use a stupid flippin yanma. __________________ Co-Founder of Team SoCal 14- Elites:11-14 Corps ^Leaves you to wonder if i should actually play this game, 'cause i suck at this game 1st at Irvine Gym Challenge! hehe, and number 35 at worlds 2006....with ZRE...hehe.

02/26/2006, 12:22 PM	#11
arctic_frost Images: 1	Cradilly as a card is broken, but it's not playable. I've tried a Cradilly deck, and there comes a point where you just think "what now?" If you're playing against a deck with big basics in it, then you're screwed, as 50 a turn isn't enough to win.

02/26/2006, 12:23 PM	#12
zapdos ex	yeah, so basically, against a zre, your pretty much screwed. __________________ Co-Founder of Team SoCal 14- Elites:11-14 Corps ^Leaves you to wonder if i should actually play this game, 'cause i suck at this game 1st at Irvine Gym Challenge! hehe, and number 35 at worlds 2006....with ZRE...hehe.

02/27/2006, 09:25 AM	#13
MattDarksands	Tangela I haven't seen to much trouble from big basics because I have a couple of the Legend Maker Tangela's in my deck. Sure they are freakin' weak, but they can't be hit by basics when they use thier first attack, plus I can either Briney them or attach a React energy should they take too much damage. The only downside is only having 60HP. Anyone else besides me miss the old days where Basics that don't evolve always had 70HP...

02/27/2006, 10:06 AM	#15
MattDarksands	Yea Yea, fire is big now cuza RK9. I hate him so....

02/27/2006, 04:15 PM	#17
zapdos ex	tho some grs isn't weak against fire. arcanine ex is cool, you try using it. __________________ Co-Founder of Team SoCal 14- Elites:11-14 Corps ^Leaves you to wonder if i should actually play this game, 'cause i suck at this game 1st at Irvine Gym Challenge! hehe, and number 35 at worlds 2006....with ZRE...hehe.

03/01/2006, 03:15 PM	#18
BENDINGSPOONS1	i don't know but maybe Cradily/espeon ex/pidgeot/jirachi DX or for players that want a deck that is really cheap.. try roselia, pidgeot, cradily, wynaut and wobbefet.. ER2, react energy, switch, desert ruins first poison the foe with roselia while pulling uip something vulnerable such as jirachi, have wobbefets out they can't retreat then send up cradily use the liner attack while healing every turn with react energy thanx to roselia. then devolve them when it's time.......... kinda like rock-lock and medicham put together poor mans style...

03/01/2006, 03:36 PM	#19
zapdos ex	just use a fossil swarm or something. __________________ Co-Founder of Team SoCal 14- Elites:11-14 Corps ^Leaves you to wonder if i should actually play this game, 'cause i suck at this game 1st at Irvine Gym Challenge! hehe, and number 35 at worlds 2006....with ZRE...hehe.