National Attendance 2009

[Fireborn]

By request, a new thread! ;) This year with age division breakdowns!

I will keep this updated as the Nationals results roll in. Let's hope for record breaking attendances everywhere!

As usual, if you have any corrections, please let me know!


Played National Championships (sorted alphabetically):

Argentina: 63 (9/26/28), down from 75 (14/29/32) last year
Australia: 75 (18/24/33) up from 58 (9/21/28) last year
Austria: 135 (35/78/22), up from 107 (44/47/16) last year
Belgium: 78 (16/15/47), up from 46 (8/13/25) last year
Canada: 212 (51/39/122) up from 134 (39/31/64) last year
Czech Republic: 38 (6/11/21), down from 43 (5/16/22) last year
Denmark: 91 (18/33/40), down from 125 (38/50/36/1 unknown) last year
Italy: 107 (19/31/57), down from 117 (28/35/54) last year
Finland: 125 (28/56/41), up from 115 (22/59/34) last year
France: 143 (43/34/66), up (!!!) from 72 (14/18/40) last year
Germany: 351 (83/145/123), up from 298 (93/108/97) last year
Malaysia: 47 (4/25/18) down from 66 (8/34/24) last year
Malta: 11 (1/9/1), up from 8 (0/5/3) last year
Mexico: 206 (11/28/167), down from 311 (17/33/261) last year
Netherlands: 147 (26/55/66), down from 149 (49/41/59) last year
New Zealand: 38 (8/17/13), up from 24 (4/7/13) last year
Norway: 165 (40/76/49), up from 153 (46/72/35 last year
Portugal: 90 (9/30/51), up (!!!) from 40 (3/11/26) last year
Slovenia: 22 (13/5/4), down from 30 (17/10/3) last year
Sweden: 69 (24/29/16), up from 57 (24/24/9) last year
Switzerland: 45 (6/21/18), up from 41 (5/20/16) last year
UK: 180 (34/60/84), up from 141 (37/47/57) last year
US: 1190 (225/284/681), up (!!!) from 947 (204/206/536) last year

Played Nationals Championships (sorted by numbers):

US: 1190 (225/284/681), up (!!!) from 947 (204/206/536) last year
Germany: 351 (83/145/123), up from 298 (93/108/97) last year
Canada: 212 (51/39/122) up from 134 (39/31/64) last year
Mexico: 206 (11/28/167), down from 311 (17/33/261) last year
UK: 180 (34/60/84), up from 141 (37/47/57) last year
Norway: 165 (40/76/49), up from 153 (46/72/35 last year
Netherlands: 147 (26/55/66), down from 149 (49/41/59) last year
France: 143 (43/34/66), up (!!!) from 72 (14/18/40) last year
Austria: 135 (35/78/22), up from 107 (44/47/16) last year
Italy: 107 (19/31/57), down from 117 (28/35/54) last year
Denmark: 91 (18/33/40), down from 125 (38/50/36/1 unknown) last year
Portugal: 90 (9/30/51), up (!!!) from 40 (3/11/26) last year
Belgium: 78 (16/15/47), up from 46 (8/13/25) last year
Australia: 75 (18/24/33) up from 58 (9/21/28) last year
Sweden: 69 (24/29/16), up from 57 (24/24/9) last year
Argentina: 63 (9/26/28), down from 75 (14/29/32) last year
Malaysia: 47 (4/25/18) down from 66 (8/34/24) last year
Switzerland: 45 (6/21/18), up from 41 (5/20/16) last year
New Zealand: 38 (8/17/13), up from 24 (4/7/13) last year
Czech Republic: 38 (6/11/21), down from 43 (5/16/22) last year
Slovenia: 22 (13/5/4), down from 30 (17/10/3) last year
Malta: 11 (1/9/1), up from 8 (0/5/3) last year


Scheduled National Championships:

Hong Kong: ??, no Nationals last year (31 May)
Philippines: ??, up/down from 76 (8/23/45) last year (24 May - cancelled on OP website)

Brazil: ??, up/down from 77 (6/25/46) last year (28 June)




No National Championships scheduled (yet?):


Chili: 57 (1/3/53) last year

[Jason]

The Philippines is having theirs on 24th this month.

[bullados]

Can you also post the breakdowns for last year if possible?

[MvdV]

Belgium:
16 juniors, 15 seniors, 47 masters

[ukpokemonpro]

UK Nationals: 180 players

34 Jnrs
60 Snrs
84 Mstrs

6 rounds top 8 for Jnrs and Snrs
7 rounds top 8 for Mstrs

Nicely up on last year

[Fireborn]

Thanks for those numbers!

Updated also with last year's breakdowns :)

[Jason]

Danish nats is on 6th/7th june as quoted by Tego himself in another thread in this international forum.

This year, I've been giving the chance to not only work with making Norway Nationals (May 23 & 24) happen, but also Denmark Nationals (June 6 & 7)! I always enjoy working with Norway Nationals, and I feel lucky to get the chance to be part of another Nationals this season. :)

[SuperE]

I know that the attendace to the danish nationals will drop a lot, since the location is bad. It will be great if we reach 100 people, but I dont think so...

[Fireborn]

Updated with last weekend's Nationals. Looking good so far, all but 2 of all Nationals have been up in numbers since last year :D

I'm not sure about the Netherlands either. On the one hand, it wouldn't surprise me if we had a lot of players, but on the other hand, the location is not as good as last year (especially for players from the region I'm from) and the fact that the tournament is on 2 days instead of 1 may put several people off... But we'll see :)

[Tego]

Norway Junior: 40
Norway Senior: 76
Norway Master: 49

TOTAL: 165

6 rounds, top 8 for Junior
7 rounds, top 16 for Seniors
6 rounds, top 8 for Masters

[ice_brakerz]

apparently numbers is malaysia dropped very badly with only 47 players in total that attended nats :S

[Jason]

MY Nats:
47 players
4 JR
25 SR
18 MA

Cheers.

[Kenta]

Italy: 107 (I think), down from 117 (28/35/54) last year (30 May) because of bad organization. 19/31/57 if i recall well.

[Fireborn]

Thanks for the information guys! :D

I updated the post with all the numbers I know now. France and Portugal have gone up immensely!

[NoPoke]

Numbers... It is very risky to draw conclusions from numbers. Instead I'll pose a question: are we seeing the junior division is declining in Europe? Or is it that there are lots of Juniors who just don't go to Nationals?

[luca]

I think personally that they don't go to Nationals because we had here more Juniors at City Championships than at Nationals. So my conclusion is to do Nats were most Juniors players are^^

[nnaann]

^ Tbh I think both are true.

Of all the player divisions, Juniors are the players who tend to play more casually. Alot of Masters and some Seniors would be prepared to travel 4-5 hours and stay overnight in a hotel for Nationals. Most Juniors wouldn't do this. Looking at the Europe Invite thread, the Juniors has alot lower cut off for an invite than Masters and Seniors. They don't attend as many tournaments as seniors and masters.

However I have noticed some bad attendences in the Junior division. Is the problem that the Juniors that move up to Seniors each year aren't replaced? I've seen alot of Junior attendences of 2-3 at tournaments which is pretty worrying.

[Fireborn]

I think that the fact that a lot of European Nationals are now spread out over 2 days discourages a lot of Junior players from going.

For instance, I have several (decent/good) Junior players at my leagues who will play in BRs/CCs, but whose parents won't travel 2-3 hours for Nationals, especially when they know they will probably have to spend the night if their child makes the top cut.

[Rainbowgym]

Originally Posted by Fireborn

I think that the fact that a lot of European Nationals are now spread out over 2 days discourages a lot of Junior players from going.

For instance, I have several (decent/good) Junior players at my leagues who will play in BRs/CCs, but whose parents won't travel 2-3 hours for Nationals, especially when they know they will probably have to spend the night if their child makes the top cut.

So those parents prefer to have their kid playing untill 9-10 PM and than travel home?
That is another sound than I heard last year when they were complaining it ended to late.
It's never oké no matter how you do it.

[Fireborn]

Originally Posted by Rainbowgym

So those parents prefer to have their kid playing untill 9-10 PM and than travel home?
That is another sound than I heard last year when they were complaining it ended to late.
It's never oké no matter how you do it.

No, those parents prefer tournament that end at around 4 PM and that are within 30 minutes driving distance... Mind you, these are kids that only play local tournaments, and they and their parents have no idea what it's like playing a National Championship.

The parents with kids who do actually travel to Nats, know what Nats is like, etc. obviously do prefer to stay there for 2 days. But that's not the majority of the Junior attendance, I think...

[Jason]

Australia:

18 JR
24 SR
33 MA
Total: 75 players, up from 58 last year.

[sandshrew]

Quote Fireborn: "No, those parents prefer tournament that end at around 4 PM and that are within 30 minutes driving distance... Mind you, these are kids that only play local tournaments, and they and their parents have no idea what it's like playing a National Championship."

And that's why leagueleaders step in and tell/show them how much more fun it is to participate.....

[Fireborn]

Originally Posted by sandshrew

Quote Fireborn: "No, those parents prefer tournament that end at around 4 PM and that are within 30 minutes driving distance... Mind you, these are kids that only play local tournaments, and they and their parents have no idea what it's like playing a National Championship."

And that's why leagueleaders step in and tell/show them how much more fun it is to participate.....

I'm sorry that there were no players from my leagues at Nationals... Oh, wait, there were! About 16, which was more than 1/10th of the entire tournament. Which I thought was really good for a location that takes most of our kids over 3 hours to get to...

But like I said, I can convince the Seniors/Masters to go. The Juniors just rely on their parents to take them, and the parents just don't feel like travelling for so long for a Pokemon tournament. There's little I can say to convince them, even though it's pretty easy to convince the kids that it'll be a great experience. The distance and the idea of there possibly being 2 days of play just puts some of the parents off.

And looking at the Junior numbers all over Europe, I think that goes for other countries, too, which is what Ian's remark was about.

[Tego]

Same thing in Norway. The little peninsula of Nesodden where my sister and I run a League has almost only Junior players. Out of the 10-11 regular Junior players, only two of them traveled to Nationals, even though we gave them all big, colorful A4 flyers that besides Dragonite also featured a helpful map of how to get to the locaton. And getting there would only take one and a half hour at most! Several parents are very supportive of their kids' hobby, but only two of them are willing to wake up at 6.30 on a Saturday to take them to some tournament in Oslo.

[Dual_Draw]

Canada
47 Juniors
40 Seniors
123/122 Masters
210/209 Players

Up 76/75 from last year.