Donphan Prime Deck Help

[FlareonMaster]

Ok, this is a deck I might consider for States. It is based on the new Donphan Prime with a Flygon/Nidoqueen tech for healing, free retreat and back up attacking (Flygon). All help is great so thanks in advance!

(Granite Titan)

Pokemon X 22
Donphan x3 Prime
Phanphy x3 HGSS
Flygon Lv.X x1 RR
Flygon x2 RR
Vibrava x1 RR
Trapinch x2 SW
Nidoqueen x1 RR
Nidorina x1 RR
Nidoran F x1 RR
Claydol x2 GE
Baltoy x2 GE
Uxie x1 LA
Unown G x1 GE

T/S/S X 25
BTS x2 PL
Stark x2 LA
Roseanne x4 P8
Bebe x3 RR
Rare Candy x4 GE
Pokemon Reversal x3 HGSS
Warp x2 MD
Expert Belt x2 AR
Pokemon Communication x2 HGSS
NM x1 P8
Luxury Ball x1 SF

Energy X 13
Fighting x6
Psychic x1
Call x3 MD
DCE x3 HGSS

[goliaththegreat]

-1 Machamp
-1 Machop
-2 Donphan
+2 Prime Donphan
+1 Flygon
+1 Trapinch

The Machamp is not really needed,the Flygon gives your Donphans free retreat and the Nidoqueen can heal the benched one.The non Prime Donphan is jsut BAD.If you do put in the Flygon line then take out the switch for one more Pokemon Reversal.

[FlareonMaster]

I love the Prime as well, it is just because IDK how easy it will be to get 4 of them, but if I do then I will. Otherwise I like all your suggestions and will take them. I don't think I need the Flygon X so I will just do as you said. Ya, I guess I don't need two donking pokemon in one deck. :P

[Nekizalb]

You're running Stark Mountain. I think that that would work well with Regirock. It also helps you bypass the Mr. Mime wall. Plus, Regirock only takes up one space and can discard cards that you don't need later in the game.

[big daddy]

i would play 4 prime donphan cause it is so much better. me and my team built it and its way better with the 4 prime.

[Tombstoner]

He's gonna put 4 Prime once he can.

Anyway, Blower + > Reversal when you run 4.

[Happiny13]

I say stick with at least one of the SW donphans. It is a great counter to expert belt.

[big daddy]

yes but i found it to slow you down and if ur deck is all about the donk then go 4 prime.

[Politoed666]

I'd suggest going 4-4 Donphan, 4-4 Claydol, and stuff like Uxie and Unown G. Just go all out. I mean, it will take eight Donphan attacks to KO a Claydol. Since Donphan is a low energy deck, there should be plenty of room for T/S/S such as SSU and Poké Healer +. It's my belief that a fast Stage 1 like Donphan shouldn't be slowed down by a Stage 2.

[big daddy]

so does kingdra beet donphan hands down?

[FlareonMaster]

Originally Posted by big daddy

i would play 4 prime donphan cause it is so much better. me and my team built it and its way better with the 4 prime.

I already said I will add them in when I can as I stated in the first post. However I like the idea of 1 SW one either way so 3 Prime and 1 SW. Also, as for Kingdra, he could pose a problem but I do have Flygon and Nidoqueen to defend Donphan if I must.

Thanks everyone for suggestions so far, anything else I can do other than add in 4 Prime as I already said I will do stuff like that when and if I get them.

[Politoed666]

Originally Posted by big daddy

so does kingdra beet donphan hands down?

Yeah, Kingdra thrashes Donphan. It's easily an autoloss. Throw an Expert Belt on Kingdra and it's KOing Donphans in one hit.

[FlareonMaster]

Ya, Kingdra posses a problem, good for me he isn't popular in my area any more. :P

[thepliskin5005]

This card would be good with blissy prime and hipowdown level x because it can do so much for one energy.

[A z u l]

4 Donphan Prime works best, or you can tech a 1 SW if you want.

Take out the Warp Point and Switch and try to find stuff for the Gyarados match up.

[Infernape Master]

U could throw in a menatric and that helps you vs your water matches and protects you bench for at lest 9 turns if its not getting sniped

[FlareonMaster]

Originally Posted by A z u l

4 Donphan Prime works best, or you can tech a 1 SW if you want.

Take out the Warp Point and Switch and try to find stuff for the Gyarados match up.

I am already doing this exactly, I just need to get those cards and hopefully I will in my box. I already stated this in the first post BTW.

Originally Posted by Infernape Master

U could throw in a menatric and that helps you vs your water matches and protects you bench for at lest 9 turns if its not getting sniped

I already have Nidoqueen who can help as well, but Manectric could be of help but I already have too many stages I think.

Other than the 4 Primes or 3 Primes with 1 SW, anything else I could do that is needed?

Back to back posts merged. The following information has been added:

I just updated the list a little, anything else I can do?

[Heatherdu]

I missed your original list but it seems that you had a Machamp line and I think that's actually a good idea because it has a different weakness than Donphan (helps with all this Kingdra, etc. autoloss talk) and is a huge benefit against SP decks. The SP decks can only hold out with Unown G for so long.

And you can easily tech in a Relicanth since you run fighting and have free retreat with your Flygon.

We have tried a similar list and like it. We actually removed the Nidoqueen line because the bench was always full and threw in a few Bench Shields.

Good luck!

[FlareonMaster]

Thanks, however I think I need Nidoqueen. If I was to have Machamp again I would be choosing between Flygon RR and Machamp SF which is what I originally had as you had thought. Which should I keep in your opinion?

[Heatherdu]

I'd say keep the Flygon RR. The free retreat is important in this deck either to save a heavily damaged Poke or if you get hit by a Lux or Pokemon Reversal or even with your own Rapid Spin from the Donphan SW. Plus you can always attack with Flygon if needed especially in a Kingdra or other water match-up.

Have you found much use for the Donphan SW? It is a tech we are considering as well. I just think that for the deck space a Relicanth is better for hitting tool heavy decks like SPs since it can be a fast one turn surprise for one energy.

[FlareonMaster]

Well, so far SW Donphan has done well. However I haven't faced any water decks or anything yet like that. I think I will keep it the way it is for right now then. Any other suggestions than the ones you said?

[FlareonMaster]

I just finished updating it and am pretty sure this will be the deck I use at States so all help will be very great! Thanks!

[konopacz]

Originally Posted by Tombstoner

He's gonna put 4 Prime once he can.

Anyway, Blower + > Reversal when you run 4.

Good idea. Also, I would add in a regirock. Mr.Mime is a huge counter to donphan and regi would help that a lot.

[Happiny13]

I think regice might help more.

[FlareonMaster]

Originally Posted by konopacz

Good idea. Also, I would add in a regirock. Mr.Mime is a huge counter to donphan and regi would help that a lot.

I am not discarding energy though so I don't see how Regirock will help. anyways, as for Mr. Mime, this is more of a question than anything else, other than Shuppet, what deck runs it? I can't think of anything at the moment. Besides, Regirock just gets the energy back and lets me move it with the help of Stark and I just don't see how that will be of much use as that would mean very long games to get him out and ready with all the right cards when Donphan is meant to be fast and you are forgetting Flygon can help me too. Are there any T/S/S that could help over a Pokemon slowing me down?

Originally Posted by Happiny13

I think regice might help more.

Now he might be of help, but once again he will slow me down.