The crazy card

[Tash]

I can kind of see why nobody would bother to play Rayquaza Ex, if Garchomp can OHKO it for 2 energy...

[psychup2034]

Originally Posted by tinox6

And why don't we see Rayquaza EX on ANY of these deck descriptions???

Because apparently playing Rayquaza EX is really stupid in format full of Garchomp (that can OHKO it for 1 energy if there are 2 Altaria benched and for 2 energy outright).

Remember Gengar (Prime)? Looks like Rayquaza EX is in the same category. The difference? Gengar (Prime) was a viable 1-of in Vilegar. Rayquaza EX appears to be completely unplayable.

[EliGagerNorris]

It's disappointing too, because Rayquaza will probably be in a tin, making players like me who can't pull or buy EXs able to get Rayquaza pretty easily.

Guess I'm using Durant for Nationals... :/

[ogremarauder]

Originally Posted by ogremarauder

Not sure if I'm supposed to respond with improper syntax and glaring grammatical/spelling errors, but I'll do my best...

If you are actual(ly) try(ing to) theorize a concept for this card, then meganium is out. It is too slow and ineffect(ive) due to not (being) able to attack. As a bench sitting tech,it is worth/less in a format with catcher. All one does is catcher it up, and snipe around it(via Raikou ex), or stall and completely set up. The Darkrai and sableye are interesting. The concept is excellent theorymon, but (I) don't see it surviving against the faster setup decks.


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Never above did I say it wasn't an interesting concept(except for the meganium) And the fact remains that we still don't know what is in/out by the time this card sees print in English. If we have the tools currently available to explosively fast decks in September, I still contend that this will be too slow to compete. If, for example, we have the format the previously mentioned tournament was played in, it could be a contender. What made reading the OP akin to pulling my own teeth was the murderous approach to the English language. Many a good idea have fallen by the wayside, due to poor communication.

[ScraftyG]

Originally Posted by EliGagerNorris

It's disappointing too, because Rayquaza will probably be in a tin, making players like me who can't pull or buy EXs able to get Rayquaza pretty easily.

Guess I'm using Durant for Nationals... :/

Why?
Nothing has changed here.

[ToysRUsKid]

Rayquaza is far from unplayable lol.

[thepliskin5005]

I find rayquaza kinda hard to use. You need a lot of energy cards in your deck to use rayquaza' because your always discarding energy cards with it. No doubt that could be bad for this deck but you could one shout it with hydreigon.

[Calm_Lava]

Rayquaza seems in theory like it will be pretty easy to use in eels, with 1 retreat you can get it to bench pretty easily to put lightnings back on it, you don't even have to really have fire energies, just prisms which can be used on terrakions too. But we'll see how it actually does come time. Everyone was in love with lostgar look where that went.

Also when that set comes out and rotation happens, pilskin.dec bdif
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[cabd]

Originally Posted by Calm_Lava

Rayquaza seems in theory like it will be pretty easy to use in eels, with 1 retreat you can get it to bench pretty easily to put lightnings back on it, you don't even have to really have fire energies, just prisms which can be used on terrakions too. But we'll see how it actually does come time. Everyone was in love with lostgar look where that went.

Also when that set comes out and rotation happens, pilskin.dec bdif
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Rayquaza is kept in check by Altaria/garchomp. That's why it didn't do too hot.

[sdrawkcab]

Originally Posted by Calm_Lava

Rayquaza seems in theory like it will be pretty easy to use in eels, with 1 retreat you can get it to bench pretty easily to put lightnings back on it, you don't even have to really have fire energies, just prisms which can be used on terrakions too. But we'll see how it actually does come time. Everyone was in love with lostgar look where that went.

Also when that set comes out and rotation happens, pilskin.dec bdif
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If you use prism energy then you'd have to discard the prism too when you attack.

[CFOURCOLTSFAN]

Originally Posted by King Piplup

Since we didn't JUST have that...

that was the points, lol.

[platinumwaiter]

I think that this would be viable in the BW - on format... look at what happened in Japan.

[King Piplup]

Originally Posted by CFOURCOLTSFAN

that was the points, lol.

I know

Posted using my computer which means I need 17 Char...

[Ace-]

Originally Posted by cabd

Rayquaza is kept in check by Altaria/garchomp. That's why it didn't do too hot.

if garchomp/altaria becomes big in NA and EU, then people who wants to play rayquaza ex have to adapt. Its not like you can only use ray ex. There are also some other cards you can use in ray ex decks (raikou ex, tornadus, tornadus ex, zekrom, zekrom ex, thundurus, mewtwo ex, rayquaza)

[dialga master]

Won a worlds qualifier in japan. All aboard the hype train.

[Darknezz]

Isn´t This card just as
KlingKlang but rhen for dark?
http://serebii.net/card/blackwhite/076.shtml

[baby mario]

It's not what the card does that matters (Energy Trans Powers have been around since Base).

It's what it has to work with that counts.

[Ziggmiceter]

I'm noticing a lack of First Pass in the lists you gave. Did people decide it wasn't worth the space? (I think it's great Ultra Ball fodder)

[baby mario]

Originally Posted by Ziggmiceter

I'm noticing a lack of First Pass in the lists you gave. Did people decide it wasn't worth the space? (I think it's great Ultra Ball fodder)

Any card can be 'great Ultra Ball fodder', but it's better if they can do other things too, yes?

You don't play useless cards in your deck just so you can discard them, do you? That's a non-argument.

Dunno about First Ticket (or whatever it gets called) yet. Maybe for donk decks,

[Otaku]

You know, I was wondering what Musharna was doing in the Gothitelle/Accelgor/Mew EX deck, but now that we've learned of Ether, it makes quite a bit of sense.

[dialga master]

Originally Posted by sdrawkcab

If you use prism energy then you'd have to discard the prism too when you attack.

With prism you only need one prism and 2 lighting to do 180, since prism is lighting and fire. If I were to use it I would be expecting a return KO immediately so I don't think it matters much.

[sdrawkcab]

Turns out prism might not be discarded. The wording made it seem like basic energy were only discarded. Might have been a mistranslation however.

[Awesomonewb]

This deck basically won nats :O