Why did tzps die?

Thatguy99 · 05/24/2012, 05:31 PM

Put in simple, why did TZPS die?
It was great if u had a turn one set up, and with all the new EX Pokemon, wouldn't TZPS become better? I mean the oppiritunity to set up a tornadus EX, zekrom, mewtwo. Would be huge and would hustle ur opponent out of the game? So why did it die?

JandPDS · 05/24/2012, 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thatguy99

Put in simple, why did TZPS die?
It was great if u had a turn one set up, and with all the new EX Pokemon, wouldn't TZPS become better? I mean the oppiritunity to set up a tornadus EX, zekrom, mewtwo. Would be huge and would hustle ur opponent out of the game? So why did it die?

It was a one trick poney. You won if you donked or beat your opponent quickly but you fell behind the longer the game lasted. Eels gives you a slower Start but a much much stronger mid to late game. That is why ZPST died.

Durant Eats Children · 05/24/2012, 05:53 PM

@Thatguy99 You named the thread "Why did TAPS die?" You may want to fix that if you can....

Thatguy99 · 05/24/2012, 06:50 PM

@JandPDS thank u for clarifying.
@duranteatschildren I'll try to fix that thank u!

*Tash* · 05/24/2012, 07:28 PM

Because the deck really only worked because it could OHKO anything in the format during the first few turns. Once the EXes came out, it lost a lot of ground.

**waynegg** · 05/24/2012, 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thatguy99

@JandPDS thank u for clarifying.
@duranteatschildren I'll try to fix that thank u!

Click <edit> click <advanced> and change title. Looked like you may need a little help

honchvire · 05/24/2012, 09:30 PM

Isnt Taps the funeral bugle song for the military? Fitting title, since ZPS is dead. ZEEL is far more consistent.
Posted with Mobile style...

pokesam128 · 05/24/2012, 09:58 PM

it hasn't its just waaaaaaaaay harder to play now you have to run gigas and if you make a misplay you lose

**Regis_Neo** · 05/24/2012, 10:41 PM

I saw the thread and thought you were referring to calling out tap to not cut a deck lol...
Posted with Mobile style...

StormFront · 05/25/2012, 03:56 PM

It never died, it simply evolved.

Thatguy99 · 05/25/2012, 06:52 PM

Thanks all u guys for helping my understanding!! Also thanks mr. egg u r so awesome.

Charranitar · 05/26/2012, 10:14 PM

CMT is a better, more versatile, and more consistent version of it. Basically everything ZPST wished it could be. With that said, donking Tornadus EX's with Zekrom BLW is pretty tempting.

Nintendan · 05/27/2012, 12:14 AM

Well, one of the most important cards that ruined it (IMO) is Mewtwo, since Zekrom dies after Bolt Striking to a Mewtwo + DCE. You may or may not have Eviolite, but the thing is the new EXs had too much HP. ZPST had to get a kill turn 1 or 2 and onwards from there. It just isn't do able with all these EXs that hit heavy for low Energy investment,

Blitzer · 05/28/2012, 10:51 AM

I played the deck for a while and I can say 100% that the deck is not dead. It has a very positive dark matchup, perhaps a slightly unfavorable eel matchup, and a favorable cmt matchup. You just need to work out a strong list.

05/24/2012, 10:41 PM	#9
Regis_Neo Forum Moderator Blog Entries: 1 Images: 24	I saw the thread and thought you were referring to calling out tap to not cut a deck lol... Posted with Mobile style... __________________ Shameless self-promotion: Interested in the VGC? Want to be the best you can be? Check out my VGC Teambuilding guide here: http://pokegym.net/forums/showthread.php?t=158669

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Switch to Hybrid Mode Switch to Threaded Mode

05/24/2012, 05:31 PM	#1
Thatguy99	Why did tzps die? Put in simple, why did TZPS die? It was great if u had a turn one set up, and with all the new EX Pokemon, wouldn't TZPS become better? I mean the oppiritunity to set up a tornadus EX, zekrom, mewtwo. Would be huge and would hustle ur opponent out of the game? So why did it die? __________________ Try hard or bust......... CP: 317 Last edited by Thatguy99; 05/25/2012 at 06:50 PM.

05/24/2012, 05:53 PM	#3
Durant Eats Children	@Thatguy99 You named the thread "Why did TAPS die?" You may want to fix that if you can.... __________________ 2011/2012 Top 16 Great Lakes Regional, 2nd Place Indiana States, 1 CC win, 2x CC 3rd/4th place, 1 BR win, 1 Br 3rd place, 1 Br 4th Place 35th Place US Nats 2012 (8-1 in swiss) 30 Championship Points

05/24/2012, 06:50 PM	#4
Thatguy99	@JandPDS thank u for clarifying. @duranteatschildren I'll try to fix that thank u! __________________ Try hard or bust......... CP: 317

05/24/2012, 07:28 PM	#5
Tash	Because the deck really only worked because it could OHKO anything in the format during the first few turns. Once the EXes came out, it lost a lot of ground.

05/24/2012, 09:58 PM	#8
pokesam128	it hasn't its just waaaaaaaaay harder to play now you have to run gigas and if you make a misplay you lose __________________ 2013 season 3x first cities 1x top 4 1x first battle road 1x top 4 battle road 1st Oregon states season points 305/400

05/25/2012, 03:56 PM	#10
StormFront	It never died, it simply evolved.

05/25/2012, 06:52 PM	#11
Thatguy99	Thanks all u guys for helping my understanding!! Also thanks mr. egg u r so awesome. __________________ Try hard or bust......... CP: 317

05/26/2012, 10:14 PM	#12
Charranitar	CMT is a better, more versatile, and more consistent version of it. Basically everything ZPST wished it could be. With that said, donking Tornadus EX's with Zekrom BLW is pretty tempting.

05/27/2012, 12:14 AM	#13
Nintendan	Well, one of the most important cards that ruined it (IMO) is Mewtwo, since Zekrom dies after Bolt Striking to a Mewtwo + DCE. You may or may not have Eviolite, but the thing is the new EXs had too much HP. ZPST had to get a kill turn 1 or 2 and onwards from there. It just isn't do able with all these EXs that hit heavy for low Energy investment, __________________ ??? 2012-2013 (Masters) Game Record: 0-0 0 Championship Points

05/28/2012, 10:51 AM	#14
Blitzer	I played the deck for a while and I can say 100% that the deck is not dead. It has a very positive dark matchup, perhaps a slightly unfavorable eel matchup, and a favorable cmt matchup. You just need to work out a strong list. __________________ -Top 16 Oregon States '11 Seniors - Top 4 Northwest Regionals '11 Seniors - Top 16 US Nationals '11 Seniors - Worlds Competitor '11 Seniors - Top 8 Oregon State Championship '12 Masters - Top 128 US Nationals '12 Masters - Multiple City Championship and Battle Road Wins- Team OR-EE-GON