RAWWWRRR (Funf rayquaza)

[mitsoku123]

so i heard about this deck in the blue yonder of the pokemon world so i thought i would use my Japanese rayquaza ex to test it out for my self and so far the only deck ive found to tear it apart is terrakion variants for some reason so here it is:

Pokemon:5

4-Rayquaza EX
1-Rayquaza DRX (non EX)

T/S/S:17
4-Revive
4-ultra ball
4-Super rod
2-Energy search
3-Pokemon catcher

Energy:38
19-Fire energy
19-Lightning energy

so the strategy is to T1 attach a energy to rayquaza EX and use celestial roar which takes 3 of cards of your top deck and if there energy attach them to rayquaza if not then discard whatever isnt energy, which explains the CRAY CRAY energy lines and the lack of any draw support then use his other attack dragon burst to do insane damage(by discarding either 3 fire or 3 lightning attached to rayquaza you can do 180 damage which means a instant k.o for any thing in this format) but this is in the underground of decks so it might not see the light at all. o and the explanation of the other rayquaza is to return kill and other dragons. After more testing i found that you can slim the energy down so you can fit 3 catcher in there while still keeping it consistent

[C Bruneli]

i was thinking in a deck like this, i haven't tested it yet

max potion is a good card, since after an atack rayquaza usually stays with only 1 energy, that u can atch manually to heavens call again

i think u should add 1 more rayquaza because there is a chance of it being prized when u need it

and when the cold flare set comes out, u can add ether to increase the chances of donking

so i would do:
-3 energy search
-1 communication
-1 revive
+1 rayquaza
+4 max potion

[kirbyking]

40 ENERGY That's wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy too much. Try 25 at most.

[Scottistru]

A few questions about your list:

Why the non-ex rayquaza?

Why communication? You can't use it BW-on anyways
Other than that, the list looks good.

[cabd]

Originally Posted by Scottistru

A few questions about your list:

Why the non-ex rayquaza?

Why communication? You can't use it BW-on anyways
Other than that, the list looks good.

Communication was reprinted in BLW.

[Scottistru]

Oh Yeah... I feel slow now

[C Bruneli]

non ex rayquaza is used against gartaria, sygilph and for donk some other 40 hp basics

[Nicor123]

your gonna have to mulligan like hell !!!!!!!
your opponents gonna get half his deck ik hand :p

[mitsoku123]

Originally Posted by Scottistru

A few questions about your list:

Why the non-ex rayquaza?

Why communication? You can't use it BW-on anyways
Other than that, the list looks good.

pokemon communication will be blw-on it was reprinted in blw base set

---------- Post added 08/02/2012 at 07:25 PM ----------

Originally Posted by C Bruneli

i was thinking in a deck like this, i haven't tested it yet

max potion is a good card, since after an atack rayquaza usually stays with only 1 energy, that u can atch manually to heavens call again

i think u should add 1 more rayquaza because there is a chance of it being prized when u need it

and when the cold flare set comes out, u can add ether to increase the chances of donking

so i would do:
-3 energy search
-1 communication
-1 revive
+1 rayquaza
+4 max potion

you dont need max potion becuase you would waste your energy lines with out the option to move energy plus with the 4 revive and 4 super rod you will have enough rayquaza to last you till the end of the game and you need the energy search if you run into just lightning in celestial roar so if they dont k.o your rayquaza so you can get a fire on him for example

---------- Post added 08/02/2012 at 07:28 PM ----------

Originally Posted by kirbyking

40 ENERGY That's wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy too much. Try 25 at most.

40 energy seems right for this deck because think about it your running trough you deck using celestial roar then discarding them... and you only have 4 super rod to work with here to you can only get if you rayquaza never gets knocked out 12 energy at a time out of the discard so if you run 25 energy thats 13 energy left to take 6 prizes if your energy gets wasted AND this is another point if you run 25 energy and fill your deck with staples and then use celestial roar then you HAVE to discard them with out argument...

---------- Post added 08/02/2012 at 07:29 PM ----------

im glad for your input people im going to deck test this more and keep it updated

[Tommmahawk]

Celestial Roar is a waste of a turn when you can just have Eelektrik or Emboar attach for you. 40 energy is way too much for any deck. I'd say 20 is even too much. Also with only 5-6 pokemon in the deck, Pokemon Communication is probably the worst search card you can have. Ultra Ball doesn't require you to have another pokemon in hand. Supporters are good cards too.

[Rambo]

I'd strongly recommend replacing Poke-Com with Ultra ball as others have said, as you won't have anything to put back in, and normally it's counter productive.
I'd bump the Rayquaza up to 2 in case of one being prized, and it's not as if its a bad card to start with. Even though it may have low hp, the chances of you being able to get another basic with ultra ball instead of poke-com is greatly increased.

I'm fine with the idea of 40 energies, but would try to put it down to 30, and if you're using that many energies is energy search that important, as you have such a high chance of drawing both.

I'd use these newfound spaces to try and get a few draw supporters in there, Cheren normally does decently in decks that need to keep drawing energy, but that's just a suggestion, maybe bianca due to the ultra ball and high trainer count?
I'd put a switch or 2 in as well, just a personal preference of mine that I put in pretty much every deck. Also possibly SSU, since max potion ruins your ability to attack every turn, especially if you're not running switch.

[mitsoku123]

Originally Posted by Tommmahawk

Celestial Roar is a waste of a turn when you can just have Eelektrik or Emboar attach for you. 40 energy is way too much for any deck. I'd say 20 is even too much. Also with only 5-6 pokemon in the deck, Pokemon Communication is probably the worst search card you can have. Ultra Ball doesn't require you to have another pokemon in hand. Supporters are good cards too.

think about this you will 90 percent of time the get a turn 1 energy so you start with a turn one celestial roar and next turn you can hit for 180 easy but with emboar and eel you need to add in all the needless crap to set them up becuase what deck in this format can hit for 170 on turn one tell me

---------- Post added 08/04/2012 at 05:29 PM ----------

thanks i will do that

[Tommmahawk]

With 40 energy and zero draw supporters you will never find your catchers. One benched mewtwo can get powered up while you're wasting time celestial roaring. Then you instantly lose.

[rayquaza2222]

You should play Rayquaza EX with Eel or Emboar. Using an attack to build up your Rayquazas will be fatal. At times, you may need to use Dragon Burst 2-3 times in a row to win. Roaring then attacking will take twice as long as a Eel or Emboar stratedy.

[Rambo]

I think people are missing the purpose of this build of the deck, it's not meant to use support, it's supposed to use itself as support

[honchvire]

Prism seems good in here. And energy switch/exp share could be good to keep the chain of attacks coming.

[mitsoku123]

your not getting the idea it takes on celestial roar to set up you dont need to have 10 millon energy on him