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Old 08/22/2012, 03:12 PM   #151
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This statement seems to be the foundation of your argument, and taken alone like this, I can only see it as an opinion. One that I respect, but one that I do not necessarily share, nor do I think P!P do (or should) share, either.
Yes that is my opinion, but the greater part of the post is true even if you don't agree with me on that point. ELO rewarded consistency as well, for all the reasons I've stated above.
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Old 08/22/2012, 04:12 PM   #152
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Under ELO, you were at risk of being penalized for playing the game.

That is simply unacceptable.
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Old 08/22/2012, 05:45 PM   #153
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Old 08/22/2012, 07:04 PM   #154
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Under ELO, you were at risk of being penalized for playing the game.

That is simply unacceptable.
That's also an opinion. I agree that it is generally a bad thing when playing the game draws a penalty, but I don't think it's worth replacing with a system that rewards you for playing often. The bigger the BFLs, the more opportunities to attend high-reward events, and the more points that are given for small events, the more Championship Points become frequent flyer miles. I don't think you should be able to buy an invite with frequent flyer miles.

And yes this is all my opinion. For a more substantive argument about consistency, see my last post.
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Old 08/22/2012, 08:21 PM   #155
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That's also an opinion. I agree that it is generally a bad thing when playing the game draws a penalty, but I don't think it's worth replacing with a system that rewards you for playing often. The bigger the BFLs, the more opportunities to attend high-reward events, and the more points that are given for small events, the more Championship Points become frequent flyer miles. I don't think you should be able to buy an invite with frequent flyer miles.

And yes this is all my opinion. For a more substantive argument about consistency, see my last post.
You do realize that, even as your opinion, there are some incorrect notions here. In fact, it is all incorrect. The current points system is favoring players to prove themselves at more events. That does not mean you have to play in all that many events. You just have to do well at the ones you go to. It doesn't matter how many events they put out if you win all the key ones in your area, or place high enough in the bigger ones consistantly.

Next off, your "frequent flyer miles" makes literally no sensewhere you put it. The more points awarded to smaller events decreases the effect you are describing. Sure you may have to drive 2 hours away for 3 weekends of Cities or BRs, but you dont have to do it all the time, and there are two segments of BRs for you. If they only made the larger events worthwhile, that'd be one thing. But that hasn't yet been the case. You could almost entirely qualify for Worlds with your BFL of statewide BRs/Cities and your State Championship, alongside the closest Regionals and possibly one additional State/Reg if you werent going to Nats.

Besides that, they already have 2 options designed to tailor to competitve players who dont want to play out the whole season, Nationals and the LCQ. I don't see how so many people can complain about the increase of tournaments they need to attend when the system has long given you not one, but two fail safes to avoiding the "misery" of playing Pokemon to earn an invite to Worlds. I can understand many of these complanitive threads that sprout up on the Gym, of prize support, and card inconsistancies, and how the metagame is haping up, but those who don't want to do well all season to prove they are the best don't have to under the curret system. And even when they decide not to, it's not a one shot gamble on trying to make it! If you think you'd do soooo much better if there were further events, you have a two event series to prove it every year.

I;m not saying last year was the model year for the new system. But it wasn't as broken as everyone was saying it was (at least in Masters. I feel for the Juniors who had rediculous point thresholds to overcome.). Worlds should not be handed to anyone on a silver platter. It should be like a Flash-less, Repel-less blind run of every games Victory Road molded into one. And even then Tom Dozel makes it look easy.
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Old 08/22/2012, 08:25 PM   #156
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There is at least *some* playing that you have to do for Nats and the LCQ with the 10 P!P requirement. But 2 Regionals is enough for that.
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Old 08/22/2012, 08:32 PM   #157
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There is at least *some* playing that you have to do for Nats and the LCQ with the 10 P!P requirement. But 2 Regionals is enough for that.
Play points can be acuqired from leagues can they not? You can go to a league and like, the closest Cities/Brs to your house. That still doesn't change that you don't need to be competitve You get those points for showing up, and with no top cut at Brs, the events will be offer quicker than ever.

In other words; it's easy.
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Old 08/22/2012, 09:46 PM   #158
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Any news on Mountain West?
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Old 08/23/2012, 04:51 AM   #159
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Any news on Mountain West?
My sources are indicating Utah in April. Obviously don't go out there and book a plane ticket but that's the most current info I know.
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Old 08/23/2012, 05:13 AM   #160
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Any news on Mountain West?
Logically it ought to be in the Winter since its the only one without 5 vs the other two seasons having 5 confirmed.
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Old 08/23/2012, 10:47 AM   #161
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That's also an opinion. I agree that it is generally a bad thing when playing the game draws a penalty, but I don't think it's worth replacing with a system that rewards you for playing often. The bigger the BFLs, the more opportunities to attend high-reward events, and the more points that are given for small events, the more Championship Points become frequent flyer miles. I don't think you should be able to buy an invite with frequent flyer miles.

And yes this is all my opinion. For a more substantive argument about consistency, see my last post.
But your last post was all based upon your opinion that I quoted (or, so I felt).

In any case, yeah, I guess my statement was an opinion, but it was an opinion I'm pretty sure P!P shares, so there you have it.
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Old 08/23/2012, 07:10 PM   #162
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You don't want to have Mountain West in the winter. Snowstorms abound.
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Old 08/28/2012, 11:30 AM   #163
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His point is rather badly being misrepresented, most of all by himself.

His point should be that, with 3 Regional Championship weekends, there should be more than 15 Regional Championships so that players have a chance at actually making it to all 3.
This is definitely somthing that could have been considered before they switched from 2 weekends to 3. However adding too many more could caue conequences in the prizes. Especially if the first place gets a free trip to nationals. Imagine how many more free trips they'd have to pay for. Regardless it's just gonna be messy for several players. I know just from psaking from personal experience that theres no way i can make it to any of the october regionals. They're all a 15+ hours drive from me. However I'm fornunate enough to live in Orlando when it comes time for the winter regionals. I can only hope that the Georgia one is scheduled for one of the other dates in hopes to attend.
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Old 08/28/2012, 11:44 AM   #164
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This is definitely somthing that could have been considered before they switched from 2 weekends to 3. However adding too many more could caue conequences in the prizes. Especially if the first place gets a free trip to nationals. Imagine how many more free trips they'd have to pay for. Regardless it's just gonna be messy for several players. I know just from psaking from personal experience that theres no way i can make it to any of the october regionals. They're all a 15+ hours drive from me. However I'm fornunate enough to live in Orlando when it comes time for the winter regionals. I can only hope that the Georgia one is scheduled for one of the other dates in hopes to attend.
Georgia is in April.
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Old 08/28/2012, 12:07 PM   #165
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Georgia is in April.
Well in that case i can count myself in for 2 of the 3. Hopefully only attnding 2 won't be too big a loss CP wise.
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Old 08/28/2012, 01:48 PM   #166
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To be able to participate in nats you have to be a citizen of said country, Don't you? Would it be an insane notion to apply the same restrictions to events like regionals or even states? Isn't it a little weird for the winner of, for example, Florida states to be from Maine, or the winner of mountaib West regionals to be from Florida? These examples are obviously fictional.
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Old 08/28/2012, 02:47 PM   #167
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Would it be an insane notion to apply the same restrictions to events like regionals or even states?
Yes, it definitely would be.
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Old 08/28/2012, 03:06 PM   #168
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To be able to participate in nats you have to be a citizen of said country, Don't you?
You just have to be a legal resident. For example, I'm not American, but I play in US nationals. I have never played in the nationals of the country where I'm from. Someone who has a student visa or work visa would also be a legal resident.

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