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Old 05/10/2009, 06:42 PM   #1
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Hippodwon Lvl X Sand Reset

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Sand Reset - Once during the game on your turn(before you attack), each player shuffles all cards in play (excluding Pokemon and Supporter cards) into his or her deck. You cant use more than 1 Sand Reset Poke-Power each game.
Does this include prize cards and cards in the discard pile? If so this is finally a way to recycle those Super Scoop Ups and other Trainer cards back into your deck. I guess we have to see what the official answer is upon the release date.
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Old 05/10/2009, 06:48 PM   #2
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I do not think the discard pile, the deck, prize cards or the lost zone are in play. Look at the playmat and I think what is in play will be clearer. I could be wrong, but I don't think so.
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Old 05/10/2009, 06:53 PM   #3
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UFtroll is right. The discard pile is not in play, neither are the prizes. If so then this power would always result in the game ending in a draw because both players would have no prize cards left. The power only relates to energies, Tms or tools that are attached to pokemon either on your bench or in the active position. as well as staduims in play
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Old 05/10/2009, 07:15 PM   #4
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So it shuffles in nrg/tools/Technical machines/stadiums.
is that it?
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Old 05/10/2009, 07:22 PM   #5
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I would think so. That brings up two interesting questions:
1) Unown G counts as a Tool when attached. Is it not considered a Pokemon while attached, and so would get shuffled in?
2) Say I have an Aerodactyl that was evolved from Old Amber. If Sand Reset is used, would the Old Amber get shuffled in, or does it count as a Pokemon when it is underneath what it evolves from?
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Old 05/10/2009, 07:32 PM   #6
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I would think so. That brings up two interesting questions:
1) Unown G counts as a Tool when attached. Is it not considered a Pokemon while attached, and so would get shuffled in?
2) Say I have an Aerodactyl that was evolved from Old Amber. If Sand Reset is used, would the Old Amber get shuffled in, or does it count as a Pokemon when it is underneath what it evolves from?
Uh, obviously not. They both say to treat them as if they were a tool card and the other a pokemon card.

Unown G would get hit by Sand Reset, Old Amber would not.

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Old 05/10/2009, 07:34 PM   #7
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I would think so. That brings up two interesting questions:
1) Unown G counts as a Tool when attached. Is it not considered a Pokemon while attached, and so would get shuffled in?
2) Say I have an Aerodactyl that was evolved from Old Amber. If Sand Reset is used, would the Old Amber get shuffled in, or does it count as a Pokemon when it is underneath what it evolves from?
Don't see where the confusion is...

Unown G says on it that it counts as a tool, so yes, it gets shuffled.

Old Amber says that once it's in play it counts as a Pokemon, so no, it doesn't get shuffled.
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Old 05/10/2009, 07:39 PM   #8
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Holy cow, is there finally a way to end the mighty reign of Unown G? Even if it is a terrible one...
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Old 05/11/2009, 03:36 AM   #9
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Holy cow, is there finally a way to end the mighty reign of Unown G? Even if it is a terrible one...
I don't think mighty reigns can be put to an end by something terrible. ;)

Hippowdon's Poké-Power is good against decks with no energy acceleration and no Power Spray. And that's it, really.
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Old 05/11/2009, 04:57 AM   #10
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But Tego, the list of "decks with no energy acceleration and no Power Spray" isn't exactly small even if you just take stuff from the "what won Regionals thread". While any SP deck can have both now anything that's not SP may not.
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Old 05/11/2009, 07:23 AM   #11
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Hippo with Champ just got more interesting. Gets rid of the Unown Gs so the Take Out can happen.

Hippo with Gengar just got nasty as now it can Shadow Room with the G gone.

It will be interesting to see how this works out! It will work well with single energy Attackers!
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Old 05/11/2009, 07:30 AM   #12
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But Tego, the list of "decks with no energy acceleration and no Power Spray" isn't exactly small even if you just take stuff from the "what won Regionals thread". While any SP deck can have both now anything that's not SP may not.
True. But there are also many decks that only need one Energy to attack - Kingdra, Gengar etc. So I should have said "any deck that has no Energy acceleration, no strong 1-energy attackers and no Power Spray". For many decks, losing all their Energy in one turn isn't that bad. Could be annoying for some, sure, but the top decks? I have my doubts.
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Old 05/11/2009, 08:03 AM   #13
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^ True, energy wise. But these decks could face problems depending on how that Sand Reset gets used IMHO. For example Gengar with Hippo tech could do nice things with Shadow Room vs the mirror or Kingdra using G on their Claydol. Porygon-Z promo would hate this too in just about any build, and that did OK in some areas of Europe from what I understand.
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