Glaceon's Ice Bind vs Unown G

Prof Em · 07/05/2009, 07:18 PM

Hey guys, me and Dan got into a fight tonight over Glaceon's "Ice Bind". The text says...

Ice Bind - 50 damage
If your opponent does not discard a card from his or her hand, the Defending Pokemon is now paralyzed.

He attacked my active Salamence with Glaceon's Ice Bind, and I had an Unown G on my Salamence. Dan insists that because the first line of the effect is on me, the opponent, and not the pokemon, that I must discard a card from my hand, regardless of the unown g on my Salamence, or else it would be paralyzed. Dan believes that it is like Gardevoir's psy lock and is on the opponent first, not the pokemon. He thinks that as the opponent, I determine the outcome of the effect and the G can therefore not block the paralysis. I believe that I do not have to discard the card because the text says "The Defending Pokemon" and my unown G prevents it.

Thanks for any help guys.

**Rogue Archetype** · 07/05/2009, 07:21 PM

that IS a tricky one.

I would rule that you are correct. Paralyze, in this case, is an "effect of an attack" that is on the "defending pokemon" which is EXACTLY what Unown G protects against.

***PokePop*** · 07/05/2009, 08:23 PM

Discarding the card is not an effect.
It is an optional action that they Defending Player can take to avoid the effect on their Defending Pokemon.
As noted, since G is on the Pokemon, it can be safely ignored.
However, if the player actually desires to discard a card, then still may.

07/05/2009, 07:21 PM	#2
Rogue Archetype Moderator Contest Host Images: 20	that IS a tricky one. I would rule that you are correct. Paralyze, in this case, is an "effect of an attack" that is on the "defending pokemon" which is EXACTLY what Unown G protects against. __________________ =====> Proud PokeDad & PokeHubby <======== ~~~~Northern Neck Pokemon League Website ~~~~ Judge: Regionals, States, Cities, Battle Roads, PreReleases; League Owner @ Warsaw, VA YMCA Why Bianca?WHY??

07/05/2009, 08:23 PM	#3
*PokePop* Administrator Images: 1073	Discarding the card is not an effect. It is an optional action that they Defending Player can take to avoid the effect on their Defending Pokemon. As noted, since G is on the Pokemon, it can be safely ignored. However, if the player actually desires to discard a card, then still may. __________________ Rules Team Member / Member of Team Compendium - The Pokemon Rulings Compendium - Co-Owner of PokeGym.net Premiere Tournament Organizer Invited to Judge every US National Championship and World Championship Masters Head Judge TCG World Championship 2010 - Seniors Head Judge US Nationals 2009

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07/05/2009, 07:18 PM	#1
Prof Em	Glaceon's Ice Bind vs Unown G Hey guys, me and Dan got into a fight tonight over Glaceon's "Ice Bind". The text says... Ice Bind - 50 damage If your opponent does not discard a card from his or her hand, the Defending Pokemon is now paralyzed. He attacked my active Salamence with Glaceon's Ice Bind, and I had an Unown G on my Salamence. Dan insists that because the first line of the effect is on me, the opponent, and not the pokemon, that I must discard a card from my hand, regardless of the unown g on my Salamence, or else it would be paralyzed. Dan believes that it is like Gardevoir's psy lock and is on the opponent first, not the pokemon. He thinks that as the opponent, I determine the outcome of the effect and the G can therefore not block the paralysis. I believe that I do not have to discard the card because the text says "The Defending Pokemon" and my unown G prevents it. Thanks for any help guys. __________________ I was the first person to get a kiss on the cheek from the New England Regional Champion!!!