Dialga G Tank? Toolbox?

[grimlithwarrior]

Dialga G

Having problems with speed and consistency

Pokemon 17

3-1 Dialga G Level X
1-1 Alakazam 4 Level X
1 Bronzong G
1 Skuntank G
1 Toxicroak G
1 Quagsire GL
1 Lucario GL
1 Honchkrow G
1-1 Claydol
1 Uxie
2 Unown G

Trainers Supporters Stadiums Tools 29

4 Roseanne's Research
2 Bebe's Search
2 Flint's Willpower
1 Department Store Girl
1 Aaron's Collection
1 Night Maintenance
3 TGI Energy Gain
3 TGI Power Spray
3 TGI SP Radar
1 TGI Poketurn
2 Expert Belt
1 Bench Shield
1 Warp Point
2 Galactic's HQ
1 Champion's Room
1 Conductive Quarry

Energy 14

4 Special Metal
4 Double Colorless Energy
4 Sp Energy
2 Metal Energy

Strategy

The main strategy here would be to "Tank" with Dialga G while using Alakazam4 Lv.X to move the damage around for added survivability
Quagsire GL is my Fire Counter
Lucario GL and Honchkrow G are my Gengar Combo Counter
Skuntank G is for its power
Toxicroak G is my Machamp Counter
Double Colorless is there to make attacks less Costly
That about does it Any help would be Greatly Appreciated!

[Happiny13]

Garchomp is better than Alakazam in this case. You should run 4 of all the SP cards (including Cyrus' Conspiracy)except for SP radar. This is what makes SP decks so consistent. Flints is useless here because you already run energy gain and DCE.

[prodigal_fanboy]

Garchomp is better than Alakazam. You don't hit major weakness with Dialga, and can thus afford to cut Lucario GL (esp. given you pack Galactic's HQ).

Drop 2 Flint's, 1 Champion's Room, and 1 Warp Point for 3 Roseanne's and 1 Collector's.

Try and cram in a 2-2 Garch C line, but tone down the number of DCE a little in an already-shaky energy base.
Oh yeah, CALL ENERGY.

[ragneg]

- 2 flints
- 1-1 Alakazam X
- 1 Bench Sheild

+ 1 Promocroak
+ 2-2 Garchomp C X

GCX is a better healer and it heals all SPs and a way better attack form the X and fro its basic card. Promocroak isfor luxray obviously.

other ideas:
Ambipom for garchomp C
really need 4 P turn
1-2 Crobat G
PGX counter?
Mirror Counter. (its a popular deck now.)

[Kohrok]

How are you planning on countering Blazray (if that's popular in your area). QuagGL will just get taken out by Blaz/ray or sniped by Garchomp CX...

[grimlithwarrior]

Quagsire GL's Body states that it can't be damaged on the bench so it can't be sniped by Garchomp
C Lv.X
also Thanks Ragneg I'll try some of your suggestions

[Nekizalb]

I would add another Uxie and Uxie Lv. X for extra speed and a Machamp counter. I also agree with what everyone else is saying about Garchomp C Lv. X- run it.

[grimlithwarrior]

another uxie alright will do
and I don't have garchomp C X yet so thats why I'm using Zam

[ragneg]

hey grim i just reread my post above and i didnt mean to sound like a (insert self demeaning phrase here). i understand why you put the alakazam in the deck now i watched a video on it, but i dont think personally it is that usefull because their are plenty of decks that can snipe the pokemon you put the damage counters on. i would rather let dialga get close to being KO'd and switch for garchomp C then lvl it up to clear the damage. thats what me thinks but it is utltamitely up to you

[grimlithwarrior]

No biggie ragneg the only reason I'm using it is because I don't have Garchomp C X
and If I do use it the damage goes to quagsire GL or is put on something and Poketurned
as for a Mirror Counter I could add Houndoom G

[ragneg]

Alakazam is a good stop gap soulution until you get a garchomp as for the houndoom G that is good but im trying currently to work in a charizard G into my dialgachomp its not that consistant but with a SP energy and a DCE it or a infernape 4 with a SP nrg and a DCE i know its hard to find a good fire tech unless its blaziken or infernape then you might as well make the deck

[grimlithwarrior]

Do I really need my Egains and 4 DCE??
should I reduce 1 of them for techs.
also Ragneg I hope your DialgaChomp deck works out

[ragneg]

thanks you two if you ever play it to awnser your question maybe 2-3 DCE for a tech but thats why i said its hard to tech anymore into your deck

[grimlithwarrior]

I could definitely reduce DCE to 2 or 3 because the only thing i use it on is Dialga G X
for now -1 DCE +1 Houndoom G

[ragneg]

sounds good to me i might try that with the charizard good luck

[Darkmot]

So here is your list more consistent - try it out


Pokemon 20

3-1 Dialga G Level X
2-1 Alakazam 4 Level X
1 Bronzong G
1 Skuntank G
1 Toxicroak G
1 Lucario GL
1 Promocroak
1-1 Claydol
2-1 Uxie LV.X
2 Unown G
1 Azelf

Trainers Supporters Stadiums 29

4 Roseanne's Research
1 Aaron's Collection
1 Night Maintenance
4 TGI Energy Gain
2 TGI SP Radar
4 TGI Poketurn
2 Expert Belt
2 Warp Point
1 Galactic's HQ
1 Conductive Quarry
1 Luxury Ball
4 Cyrus´Conspiracy
2 Premier Ball

Energy 11

4 Special Metal
1 Metal Energy
2 Psychic Energy
4 Call Energy

(It´s w/o qagsire)

[ragneg]

@Darkmot- So where is his Luxiken counter?

[Darkmot]

he can put in the blazeray counter if he wants - my list´s was just his list more consistent,
but you can put out galactics hq and something you would like to for a qagsire and a water energy

[grimlithwarrior]

Darkmot I'll try the list out when I get a chance

[ragneg]

okay well i understand it is more consistant but we were talking about techs

[grimlithwarrior]

What I want to know is how do I get all the needed techs in without hurting speed or consistency..

[ragneg]

have you tryed taking out honchkrow i know its a good starter but you only have one so you could take out the department store girl and honchkrow for that houndoom tech with the Sp nrg

[Darkmot]

The ONLY Tech which is needed in this deck now is Qagsire/Empoleon....
And if you want to run something against mirror AND DCE try out a 1-1 Rapidash AR (http://pokegym.net/gallery/displayim...?imageid=49154) counter
Oh and with Shiny Ponita it is the best way....

[grimlithwarrior]

about the counter I think that Houndoom g will work just fine for mirror

[Darkmot]

but rapidash works like a mewto counter against other Sp - decks....
so for sure it´s much better than houndoom G!!!!