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Old 03/22/2010, 12:39 PM   #1
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Raizone(Major help needed)

4 Pikachu AR
3 Raichu HG
1 Raichu lvl X SF
2-1-2 magnezone SF
2-2 Claydol
1 Uxie
1 Azelf
1 Chatot
1 Unown G

3 Roseanne's
2 Bebe's
4 Communication
3 rare candy
4 plus power
2 Expert belt
2 Warp point
1 Switch
2 Fisherman
1 Department store girl
2 bench shield
1 Energy Restore

12 Electric Energy

Strat is simple is to get out a raichu as fast as i can and then start doing damage for 100+ Fisherman will help me get back discard energy and then magnezone will attach energy to my active pokemon. Since raichu has such low HP I don't really have a problem with it take 1 damage counter. Raichu lvl X will help me snipe pokemon like clyadol and such. I would like to have crobat with crobat G in this deck, with 4 turns. Any suggestions how????
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Old 03/22/2010, 02:17 PM   #2
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-1 switch (you arleady have 2 warps) -1 communication +2 sunnyshore city gym so donphan/machamp other fighting types dont own you.
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Old 03/22/2010, 02:52 PM   #3
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-1 switch (you arleady have 2 warps) -1 communication +2 sunnyshore city gym so donphan/machamp other fighting types dont own you.
Either this or use Conductive Quarry to get electric energy back into your hand if you roll heads.
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Old 03/22/2010, 05:31 PM   #4
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The switch is for that moment when there is a pokemon that you want out of the way. Conductive quarry is too flippy, though a good card, I wouldn't suggest it for a deck like this....
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Old 03/23/2010, 02:36 PM   #5
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Your gona need Sunnyshore Gym.
You dont need switch either Raichu has free retreat and you probably wont be using Magnezone for its attacks.
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Old 03/23/2010, 02:46 PM   #6
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prob take out the switch for a conductive. trust me i have a friend that runs a deck kinda like this using raichu as his main atker with some nice suports. and he uses conductive. you will run out of fishermen sooner or later so your gonna need something as backup
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Old 03/23/2010, 02:46 PM   #7
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sunnyshore gym, you're really gonna need it for donphan and machamp matches, the cool thing is you can run the magnezone x, which does the same thing as the raichu but for twenty less and paralyzes. and if you're running matal energies you can stick a tech MD scizzor in there( who's not using DCE?)
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Old 03/23/2010, 05:18 PM   #8
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I would love to test my Flint's Raichu deck against this. I'm using Flint's Willpower and Bronzong G to attach extra energies to Raichu. I'ts been running really well thus far. Check out the list I just posted.
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Old 03/24/2010, 06:51 AM   #9
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arMILO: What would i take out to tech in DCE, Metal Scizor... and Magnezone lvl x???
Maxwellsage: YOu got skype??? We could totally do it!
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Old 03/25/2010, 05:55 AM   #10
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you're not adding dce, i merely meant to say "who isnt running them?" haha sorry for any misinterpretation there. you could take out one candy, about three energy and the bench shields. maybe keep one belt, i found it to be counter productive to attach a belt then damage yourself with super connectivity to an already low HP (and bad x2 weakness) raichu. and if all this goes, you can take out the department store girl. that should be more than enough space to add that all in :)
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Old 03/25/2010, 06:30 AM   #11
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So here's my new list then!!!

4 Pikachu AR
3 Raichu HG
1 Raichu lvl X SF
2-1-2-1 magnezone lvl X
2-2 Claydol
1 Uxie
1 Azelf
1 Chatot
1 Crobat
1 Unown G

3 Roseanne's
2 Bebe's
2 Communication
2 rare candy
4 plus power
2 Warp point
1 Switch
2 Fisherman
2 Sunny shore
2 Conductive quarry
1 Energy Restore
4 Poketurn

10 Electric Energy

Strat is the same but i can now use crobat to add that extra damage. How does it look now....
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Old 03/25/2010, 06:38 AM   #12
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looks good :) have you played it yet?
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Old 03/25/2010, 08:07 AM   #13
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Try with pichu? Maybe you can try 2 lv X raichu so that can get 2 ko in one turn.
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Old 03/25/2010, 09:03 AM   #14
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The reason I only run one is because it's suppose to be a claydol snipe and then a knock out another pokemon right after.... with crobat g and plus powers it will be an easy double knock out. No I haven't been able to play my latest version yet... but i will tonight!
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Old 03/25/2010, 11:30 AM   #15
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let us know how it goes :)
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Old 03/25/2010, 02:55 PM   #16
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You have only 1 SP Pokemon so you dont need 4 Poketurn??
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Old 03/25/2010, 03:37 PM   #17
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Not exactly true! The four turns are specifically to get that extra damage counter and knock out my opponents pokemon
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Old 03/26/2010, 07:20 PM   #18
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Umm, if you don't mind changing a few things I think I could help.

-3 Raichu HGSS
+3 Raichu SF

Now wait. I know what you want to say! "It does the same amount but now I have to discard 3!" But read the last attack carefully. You can discard from any of your pokemon. Now, see below.

-1 Crobat G
-4 Poketurn

+2 Rayquaza LA
+1 Roseanne's
+2 Premiere Ball

The chances of you not only getting crobat out, but having room for it on your bench, having poketurns, AND being that close to a knockout with out being able to finish them off, is super, super rare. It's really not worth the space, in my opinion. You have four plus powers. They do the job without using a valuable bench spot. You're already pushing a full bench, so it's better not to clutter it up for a one-time shot.

The first one's the kicker, the engine that can make this deck shine. Rayquaza's pokepower lets you flip until you get tails. For each heads, you pull an electric or fire basic energy from your discard pile and attach it to Rayquaza. Then, you can discard for Raichu with no drawbacks! Yes, it's flippy. Yes, it might not always work out. But with Magnezone's power you'll always be pulling out SOME energy, so with a decent setup you should be able to keep it up with impunity, even if you have to discard one or two from Raichu.

Roseanne's for getting energy to use the Lv. X's attack, premiere ball to rescue your Lv. X from the discard pile or search it out.

-1 Switch
-1 Energy Restore
+1 Luxury Ball
+1 Warp Point

The switch is really not needed. Raichu retreats for free, really the only thing you would have to retreat is Magnezone to level it up, or whatever gets Bright Looked up by your opponent. IF you insist in running that much switch power, at least make it so your opponent has to switch, too.


........wow. Sorry for the wall of text.
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Old 03/27/2010, 10:14 AM   #19
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Umm, if you don't mind changing a few things I think I could help.

-3 Raichu HGSS
+3 Raichu SF

Now wait. I know what you want to say! "It does the same amount but now I have to discard 3!" But read the last attack carefully. You can discard from any of your pokemon. Now, see below.

-1 Crobat G
-4 Poketurn

+2 Rayquaza LA
+1 Roseanne's
+2 Premiere Ball

The chances of you not only getting crobat out, but having room for it on your bench, having poketurns, AND being that close to a knockout with out being able to finish them off, is super, super rare. It's really not worth the space, in my opinion. You have four plus powers. They do the job without using a valuable bench spot. You're already pushing a full bench, so it's better not to clutter it up for a one-time shot.

The first one's the kicker, the engine that can make this deck shine. Rayquaza's pokepower lets you flip until you get tails. For each heads, you pull an electric or fire basic energy from your discard pile and attach it to Rayquaza. Then, you can discard for Raichu with no drawbacks! Yes, it's flippy. Yes, it might not always work out. But with Magnezone's power you'll always be pulling out SOME energy, so with a decent setup you should be able to keep it up with impunity, even if you have to discard one or two from Raichu.

Roseanne's for getting energy to use the Lv. X's attack, premiere ball to rescue your Lv. X from the discard pile or search it out.

-1 Switch
-1 Energy Restore
+1 Luxury Ball
+1 Warp Point

The switch is really not needed. Raichu retreats for free, really the only thing you would have to retreat is Magnezone to level it up, or whatever gets Bright Looked up by your opponent. IF you insist in running that much switch power, at least make it so your opponent has to switch, too.


........wow. Sorry for the wall of text.
Premier ball is a good idea. I advise this.

He's right about the crobats, it's too much deck space. Either add another crobat to make it more consistent, or take out all of that mess.

That Rayquaza just seems good... but I prefer the HG raichu because you can start attacking with only 2 energies. That rayquaza just seems like a very good idea though; maybe with SF raichu or with some lucian's assignments.

I'm trying to make a deck like this myself! It seems fun

May want to consider manectrics, but probably not for this style of deck.

May want to consider electivire FB Lv. X, but leveling him up is a pain.

Either way, Good Luck!
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