Rogue and good!

shamu549 · 04/08/2010, 02:21 PM

Pokemon: 20

4-4-4 MACHAMP
2-2 CLAYDOL
3 UXIE
1 CROBAT

T/S/S: 34

4 BEBES SEARCH
4 ROSEANNS RESEARCH
4 POKEDRAW
4 RARE CANDY
3 BTS
4 POKETURN
4 SUPER SCOOP UP
2 EXPERT BELT
2 POKEMON REVERSAL
2 NIGHT MATINENCE
1 LUXARY BALL

ENERGY: 6
6 FIGHTING

STRATEGY: GET MACHAMP OUT FAST . GET CLAYDOL AND UXIE FOR DRAW THEN KO ALL THE SP WITH TAKEOUT. ONE U HAVE ENOUGH DMG RAGE FOR A LOT OF DMG.

TheGeneral · 04/08/2010, 02:24 PM

Needs 1 or 2 DCE (for rage or Uxie X), Reversal, 1 Palmers over 1 NM (trainer lock

), 2 Uxie should be good, add in 1 Uxie X, and call isn't really necessary. Machamp isn't a 'set-up' deck as much as it is a speed deck (Kingdra, Speedrill, Machamp, etc.)

goldedda · 04/08/2010, 02:30 PM

wait machamo is rogue?

violinoman18 · 04/08/2010, 03:36 PM

3331 machamp

2RC

Nekizalb · 04/08/2010, 04:17 PM

why is caps lock necessary when you can have all lowercase and big size font?

Anyways, I think that Rare Candies would help with speed. Sure, you have a heavy 4-4-4 Machamp line, but you will not always draw into a Machop, Machoke, Machamp, and a BTS. Rare Candies, in my opinion, are more consistent.
You have a fast early-game setup, but what happens late in the game when your opponent has a heavy hitter out? I think you should put in Machamp Lv. X to do heavy damage when you need it. I know that your chances of drawing into a Machamp T1 are slightly decreased, but I think that the extra damage would be worth it.
Uxie Lv. X might not be too bad of an idea to consider. You can use Trade Off to get extra cards into your hand.

shamu549 · 04/08/2010, 06:39 PM

straight machamp is rogue. But i forgot candies thanks

TheGeneral · 04/08/2010, 06:46 PM

Idk how it is rogue when States last year was flooded with them...

How does a deck get de-throned?

Awesomonewb · 04/08/2010, 06:48 PM

I think it was either flygon or sp's...

TheGeneral · 04/08/2010, 06:52 PM

What are you talking about???

Last time I checked flygon likes machamp and machamp wrecks sp's.

Box of Fail · 04/08/2010, 07:01 PM

Is it still played much? No.

There, it's a rogue.

Why it isn't doesn't matter. There doesn't even need to be a rational reason. The fact is, it isn't played anymore, and the result is that it's rogue.

The end.

Anyways, Expert Belt is rather pointless. How about taking those two out for two Communication?

Awesomonewb · 04/08/2010, 10:45 PM

Ok... Sorry... I think that must of been thinking of something else...

Forest Gump · 04/09/2010, 06:24 AM

needs 4 reversals in it

lordholly · 04/09/2010, 06:28 AM

-1 Machoke
-1 Night M. or Palmers...your choice.
-1 Super Scoop Up
-1 Uxie

Or you could -4 Pokedrawer+ your choice.

+4 Double Colorless

T2 or T1 Hurricane Punch can wreck a G'd basic. Also helps power up for Rage.

I also like Pokemon Reversal in here...

You could lose the bat and the turns and add 4 Reversal and put back a Super Scoop Up...

shamu549 · 04/11/2010, 09:41 PM

nope t1 takeout dont need that

Nekizalb · 04/12/2010, 01:48 PM

But the DCEs could help you later in the game when you need to attack something that IS Guarded, and it also helps with powering up Rage. I think the possible benefits are good enought to put the DCEs in.

Kamaki · 04/12/2010, 06:59 PM

-4 Pokedrawer +
-1 Machoke
-1 Night Maintenance
-2 Fighting

+4 reversal
+1-1 (or 2-2 your choice) luxray gl
+2 Multi Energy

The name of the game is "you play basics, I KO them".

vegitalian · 04/13/2010, 08:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Box of Fail

Is it still played much? No.

There, it's a rogue.

Why it isn't doesn't matter. There doesn't even need to be a rational reason. The fact is, it isn't played anymore, and the result is that it's rogue.

The end.

Anyways, Expert Belt is rather pointless. How about taking those two out for two Communication?

I disagree - everyone that's been around for the past year knows how to play against it (taking the rogue element of surprise out of it). If this deck is anything, it's outdated. Not to say it can't do well as it's probably a good meta call.

shamu549 · 04/13/2010, 01:07 PM

Ok it doesnt matter if its rogue. It doesnt matter. Its a speed machamp deck. I am not worried about this because this a a fun deck and not a tourny deck. Barely anyone plays inknown g, if they do, i can roseanns or uxie or pokedraw for the xtra energy

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04/08/2010, 02:21 PM	#1
shamu549	Rogue and good! Pokemon: 20 4-4-4 MACHAMP 2-2 CLAYDOL 3 UXIE 1 CROBAT T/S/S: 34 4 BEBES SEARCH 4 ROSEANNS RESEARCH 4 POKEDRAW 4 RARE CANDY 3 BTS 4 POKETURN 4 SUPER SCOOP UP 2 EXPERT BELT 2 POKEMON REVERSAL 2 NIGHT MATINENCE 1 LUXARY BALL ENERGY: 6 6 FIGHTING STRATEGY: GET MACHAMP OUT FAST . GET CLAYDOL AND UXIE FOR DRAW THEN KO ALL THE SP WITH TAKEOUT. ONE U HAVE ENOUGH DMG RAGE FOR A LOT OF DMG. __________________ TOP 5 Manchester CT BR (Charizard G/Electivire FB) Last edited by shamu549; 04/14/2010 at 06:17 PM.

04/08/2010, 02:24 PM	#2
TheGeneral	Needs 1 or 2 DCE (for rage or Uxie X), Reversal, 1 Palmers over 1 NM (trainer lock ), 2 Uxie should be good, add in 1 Uxie X, and call isn't really necessary. Machamp isn't a 'set-up' deck as much as it is a speed deck (Kingdra, Speedrill, Machamp, etc.) __________________ 1st Place Ventura BR '08-'09--2nd Place Pasadena BR '09-'10 1st Place Ventura BR (again) '09-'10--2nd Place Carpinteria Cities '09-'10 Top 16 Nevada States '09-'10--3rd Place Southern California Regionals '09-'10 2nd Place Pasadena BR (again) '09-'10

04/08/2010, 03:36 PM	#4
violinoman18	3331 machamp 2RC __________________ Check out my trade thread http://pokegym.net/forums/showthread...s+trade+thread

04/08/2010, 04:17 PM	#5
Nekizalb	why is caps lock necessary when you can have all lowercase and big size font? Anyways, I think that Rare Candies would help with speed. Sure, you have a heavy 4-4-4 Machamp line, but you will not always draw into a Machop, Machoke, Machamp, and a BTS. Rare Candies, in my opinion, are more consistent. You have a fast early-game setup, but what happens late in the game when your opponent has a heavy hitter out? I think you should put in Machamp Lv. X to do heavy damage when you need it. I know that your chances of drawing into a Machamp T1 are slightly decreased, but I think that the extra damage would be worth it. Uxie Lv. X might not be too bad of an idea to consider. You can use Trade Off to get extra cards into your hand. __________________ LA Senior State Champ 2009, 2nd Place LA States 2010 (Seniors) 2010 MS Senior State Champion 2nd Place Regionals 2010, Top 16 Regionals '09, Top 16 Nationals '09, 37th Worlds 2009 13x BR Winner, 7x CC Winner TEAM ROCKET

04/08/2010, 06:39 PM	#6
shamu549	straight machamp is rogue. But i forgot candies thanks __________________ TOP 5 Manchester CT BR (Charizard G/Electivire FB)

04/08/2010, 06:46 PM	#7
TheGeneral	Idk how it is rogue when States last year was flooded with them... How does a deck get de-throned? __________________ 1st Place Ventura BR '08-'09--2nd Place Pasadena BR '09-'10 1st Place Ventura BR (again) '09-'10--2nd Place Carpinteria Cities '09-'10 Top 16 Nevada States '09-'10--3rd Place Southern California Regionals '09-'10 2nd Place Pasadena BR (again) '09-'10

04/08/2010, 06:48 PM	#8
Awesomonewb	I think it was either flygon or sp's... __________________ I miss pokemon. Haven't played too much...

04/08/2010, 06:52 PM	#9
TheGeneral	What are you talking about??? Last time I checked flygon likes machamp and machamp wrecks sp's. __________________ 1st Place Ventura BR '08-'09--2nd Place Pasadena BR '09-'10 1st Place Ventura BR (again) '09-'10--2nd Place Carpinteria Cities '09-'10 Top 16 Nevada States '09-'10--3rd Place Southern California Regionals '09-'10 2nd Place Pasadena BR (again) '09-'10

04/08/2010, 10:45 PM	#11
Awesomonewb	Ok... Sorry... I think that must of been thinking of something else... __________________ I miss pokemon. Haven't played too much...

04/09/2010, 06:24 AM	#12
Forest Gump	needs 4 reversals in it __________________ Yesterday is history, tomorrows a mystery and today is a gift, that is why it's called the present

04/09/2010, 06:28 AM	#13
lordholly	-1 Machoke -1 Night M. or Palmers...your choice. -1 Super Scoop Up -1 Uxie Or you could -4 Pokedrawer+ your choice. +4 Double Colorless T2 or T1 Hurricane Punch can wreck a G'd basic. Also helps power up for Rage. I also like Pokemon Reversal in here... You could lose the bat and the turns and add 4 Reversal and put back a Super Scoop Up... __________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ SOTG is more than just an acronym... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

04/11/2010, 09:41 PM	#14
shamu549	nope t1 takeout dont need that __________________ TOP 5 Manchester CT BR (Charizard G/Electivire FB)

04/12/2010, 01:48 PM	#15
Nekizalb	But the DCEs could help you later in the game when you need to attack something that IS Guarded, and it also helps with powering up Rage. I think the possible benefits are good enought to put the DCEs in. __________________ LA Senior State Champ 2009, 2nd Place LA States 2010 (Seniors) 2010 MS Senior State Champion 2nd Place Regionals 2010, Top 16 Regionals '09, Top 16 Nationals '09, 37th Worlds 2009 13x BR Winner, 7x CC Winner TEAM ROCKET

04/12/2010, 06:59 PM	#16
Kamaki	-4 Pokedrawer + -1 Machoke -1 Night Maintenance -2 Fighting +4 reversal +1-1 (or 2-2 your choice) luxray gl +2 Multi Energy The name of the game is "you play basics, I KO them". __________________ My Trades

04/13/2010, 01:07 PM	#18
shamu549	Ok it doesnt matter if its rogue. It doesnt matter. Its a speed machamp deck. I am not worried about this because this a a fun deck and not a tourny deck. Barely anyone plays inknown g, if they do, i can roseanns or uxie or pokedraw for the xtra energy __________________ TOP 5 Manchester CT BR (Charizard G/Electivire FB)