Metagross Deck, needs help for Cities

[Clearea Vystein]

Pokemon (18):

1-0-3 Metagross LA
3-2-0 Metang SV
0-0-1 Metagross UL
1-1-1-1 Magnezone X [SV-SF42-SF5]
1 Uxie LA
1 Azelf La
1-1 Gliscor UD

T/S/S (21):

4x Rare Candy
2x Expert Belt
1x Luxury Ball

4x Bebe's Search
4x Cyrus' Conspiracy
2x Pokemon Collector
1x Palmer's Contribution
1x Twins

1x Broken Time-Space
1x Conductive Quarry

Energy (21):

4x Special Metal
4x Rainbow Energy
4x Double Colorless Energy
2x Rescue Energy
6x Metal
1x Fighting

Strategy:

Attempt to get a start with Beldum SV to search out my only BTS. Then, attempt to start up a Metagross LA the next turn.
Magnezone to Paralyze and move Rainbow Energy, as well as searching more Metagross LA.
Metagross UL is to provide free retreat so I can switch out Metagrosses.
Gliscor is an Umbreon and Luxray GL counter. May take out, but still need Umbreon counter. Can't rely too much on Magnetic Reversal.

I included Cyrus' Conspiracy despite not having anything TGI-related because it easily grabs energy and pinch supporters.

Energy Count seems to be a problem. 21 seems way too much for a deck.

Cards I am considering to put in, but what to take out?

Gliscor Lv. X
Seekers (have 4)
Twins (have 4 more)
Rescue Energy (have 4 more)
Black Belt (have 4 more)
Junk Arm (have 4)
Umbreon UD
Bench Shield
Lightning Energy
Metagross SF6

[Giratinamaster]

Pokemon: 18
4x Beldum LA
3x Metang SV
2x Metagross LA
2x Metagross UL
2x Zubat UL
2x Golbat UL
2x Crobat (prime)
1x Jirachi RR

S/S/T:24
4x Bebe's Search
4x Pokemon Coll
2x Inerviews Qustions
2x Palmer Contrubution
4x Switch
4x Poke Radar
3x Condutive Quarry
1x Luxury Ball

Energy: 18
10x Psychic
4x Special Metal
4x Basic Metal

Try this build its a ok build and it is event legal as well by using the power on LA metagross you can drag your oppents pokemon to active slot and you also can snipe the bench to also no DEC due the metagross LA can gain a free retreat

[Clearea Vystein]

Originally Posted by Giratinamaster

Pokemon: 18
4x Beldum LA x0
3x Metang SV x1
2x Metagross LA x0
2x Metagross UL x1
2x Zubat UL
2x Golbat UL x1
2x Crobat (prime) x1
1x Jirachi RR x0

S/S/T:24
4x Bebe's Search x2
4x Pokemon Coll x0
2x Inerviews Qustions
2x Palmer Contrubution
4x Switch
4x Poke Radar x0
3x Condutive Quarry x0
1x Luxury Ball

Energy: 18
10x Psychic
4x Special Metal x2
4x Basic Metal

Try this build its a ok build and it is event legal as well by using the power on LA metagross you can drag your oppents pokemon to active slot and you also can snipe the bench to also no DEC due the metagross LA can gain a free retreat

What is in bold is what I do have. Thumbs up are self-explanatory.

The problem with my cards is that with the new ones, I barely have any copies of them unless I buy the theme decks. And even then, they won't have the cards I want. And like I said, I'm not looking for event legal cards yet. If I even go to one, I probably won't play in it, anyways.

LA Metagross is one I'm trying to get, but I don't have anything "good" that I can offer up for it. And then I'm also aiming for the Undaunted Metagross, which sports a beefed up version of the HL Squared Attack.

And since I don't have anything good, I can't get anything good. I can post my entire "pool" of cards to choose from what I have on hand that could help this deck, if that would help.

The only reason I put in one Crobat because it has a free retreat and relatively high HP. It would only be used for Poisoning or sniping Benched if my Metagross' take too much damage. Also, benching a Pokemon would make the Poison go away. I want it to snip away at the Defending's HP while I snipe Benched. Hence, the extra stadium and the Metagross SV. And since Crobat needs a single energy, wouldn't it be wise to cut down on Psychic Energy?

The Jirachi doesn't seem all that bad, but it's more of a sacrifice to grab cards. Should I be worried about that one prize that my opponent could take from knocking out Jirachi?

[Clearea Vystein]

Bumpdate with a new list, strategy, and plea for help. LOL.

[iDonkedYou]

the onix only heals himself.

[Clearea Vystein]

I know. He's just there to fill up space. I find it better than the current Onix's. Helps him live and cancels out Rainbow Energy.

[chrataxe]

I think the best Onix is the other one from UL. There is only 3 legal right now, one from SF, the Healing one, and the non healing ones from UL. The healing one has 1 attack that takes 4 energy, one of which has to be fighting...what a waste, especially since it only heals itself when an energy is attached to THAT Onix. Granted, he can use the Rainbow, but without rainbow (or fighting) energy, it is worthless. The OTHER one from UL only needs 3 energy and all are colorless, meaning DCE makes it 2!

As for strategy, I think you have a bit too much going on. Pick an attacker, stick with him. Pick other Pokemon that HELP that attacker in someway. By helpers, I mean like Slowking HGSS, Vileplume UD....stuff like that. I wouldn't run 2 stage 2 pokemon with out rare candy and BTS. A great "helper" card in any metal deck is Jirachi RR. The new Skarmory is pretty cool as it helps with energy attachment. The new Mawile is decent as well. At a glance, I would say drop the Crobat and Steelix line.

[TylerZ]

^^

Doesn't know what he's talking about

SF Onix is the best one by far , for 1 energy he can keep himself from damage

if your putting 3 energy on your onix and attacking, your deck has some consistency issues

[Clearea Vystein]

Steelix is there to tank, not to attack. He's a sacrifice that lasts long. Same thing with the Onix's.
Crobat poisons and then flies away. It's not a main attacker, it's there to either have the opponent waste energy to force a retreat or let it die.

The main attacker is Metagross. Any Metagross. All of them work fine by themselves. That's why it's 4-4-4.

I'm working on the Rare Candy thing. I find it a lot better than BTS. In a testing, I found using BTS only good for getting Magnets and evolving them fast. Except there were already Candies in my hand and I just need to stick out an Uxie for draw. The real deck won't be running Uxies, so meh.

The BEST helper card in any metal deck is Magnezone SF/X. SF-5 lets you search for ANY metal pokemon, and Lv.X lets you move around the metal energies.

Bronzong easily replaces Skarmory. It grabs any 2 basic energy cards. IQ can grab specials.


Of course, this is all in theory. Working on acquiring the cards I mentioned.

[Solemn_Party]

Originally Posted by TylerZ

You are obviously bad at this game, if thats why you put steelix in your deck

Sir, people have to learn somehow.

... While he did not exactly have any tact with his comment, he's not wrong. Steelix is a tank for attacking, not stalling. If you want to stall, run Scizor Prime; it's a stage one that can't be hit by pokemon with special energies.

[Clearea Vystein]

Alright, so I dropped Steelix and replaced him with Scizor. I'm also considering Skarmory, but not Mawile.

Can anyone help me pick the last two cards?

---------- Post added 08/26/2010 at 05:18 PM ----------

Also might drop Crobats. Ideas for replacements? I don't want my deck to be monotype.

---------- Post added 08/26/2010 at 05:30 PM ----------

Might add 1-1-1 Exploud SV to deal with Blazikens. That's a lot of Bench sitters, though. And like I said, too many 1-1-1 lines.

[Clearea Vystein]

The final list is up. Just need some help picking out a few more cards.

[Clearea Vystein]

Changed it up a lot. Anyone willing to help?

[XxPearlDrumsxX]

you do realize that dgx makes your bodies go away as well, right?

[Clearea Vystein]

Yes, I do. Does that not explain Switch and Warp Point?

[ProfessorJacob7]

it doesnt matter if hes active, having DGX in play will turn off all pokebodies. it means getting the DGX into play will get rid of your free retreat, and it will prevent the -20 HP thing.

[Clearea Vystein]

I am already aware of that.

[XxPearlDrumsxX]

that seems counterproductive

[Clearea Vystein]

I like to call it situational.

[XxPearlDrumsxX]

what situation causes you to purposely undermine your deck's full potential?

[Clearea Vystein]

...The more I think about it, the worse it starts to seem.

So what do you propose I do against Vilegar? I can't hope to Magnetic Reversal it, since it's flippy. And going at 40 a turn with Double Leg Hammer, or 30 with Speed Shot could cause an auto-loss with those Rare Candies and Switches.

[XxPearlDrumsxX]

a 1-1 blaziken fbx

[Clearea Vystein]

- 3-1 DGX
+ 1-1 BFBX

+2 DCE/+1-1 Glalie AR/+1 Poketurn and SP Radar?

---------- Post added 10/18/2010 at 04:35 PM ----------

Updated. Things I'm REALLY leaning on are Cyrus' Conspiracies and Fire techs.

[Clearea Vystein]

BUMP! New deck idea. :]

[Clearea Vystein]

Bump. I have reverted to the original deck idea/motif, so now what? I would like some help on how to counter meta in the SoCal area. I think the top 4 that I checked won in nearby CCs are:

DialgaChomp
Gyarados
VileGar
LuxChomp

Any help is appreciated. Thank you!