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Old 09/06/2010, 04:41 PM   #1
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Thumbs down Im sick of these!!!

I HATE VILEGARS SO MUCH!!!
I don't know anybody who doesn't have one or is working on one!!!
Comment if you like/dislike VileGar!
*Note: Yes, I at one point had one, but I took it apart and am now working on my own strategies. :P
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Old 09/06/2010, 04:42 PM   #2
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I play Umbreon/Vileplume.
played Vilegar but it's super popular now so i rather not.
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Old 09/06/2010, 04:44 PM   #3
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i havent lost to a vilegar yet... its not that amazing
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I have 9 flygon x's. It would be BEAST to have ten
......that makes me sad :(
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Old 09/06/2010, 04:54 PM   #4
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I have barely lost with it yet. And until you tell me and everyone else who likes it WHY you hate this bad deck so much, even though it wins, your opinion doesn't matter to me.

And cause its such a bad deck, and you have SUCH and educated and well supported opinion what do you think I should play that beats it?
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Old 09/06/2010, 04:56 PM   #5
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Play DGX. Whittle down Gengar's hp then crobat g him. /thread
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Old 09/06/2010, 04:58 PM   #6
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thats what i play :D
tank him and power spray the level down and i run skuntank to poison kill him/bat drop him
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I have 9 flygon x's. It would be BEAST to have ten
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Old 09/06/2010, 05:13 PM   #7
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thats what i play :D
tank him and power spray the level down and i run skuntank to poison kill him/bat drop him
Thats easy as any good Vilegar runs like 3+ judge. Eventually I get a LVdown off + Judge and cripple SP. GG sir. It only becomes more difficult with Lux in the mix. Tech a special nrg smasher or Umb and its even more GG. SP can take the 2 free prizes I give it if it wants to, After DGX and a bebe are burned by turn 5 Vilegar will win with disruption. Its not BDIF, but DON'T try to deny it's an awful and unplayable deck.
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Old 09/06/2010, 05:18 PM   #8
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did i ever say it was an aweful deck? nope. i said i havent lost to it YET! and its not that amaing is not saying its aweful. your just twisting my words.

i am not doubting it at all. it is a good deck, i just said it wasnt THAT amazing. and now your saying that you will wreck dialgachomp...
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I have 9 flygon x's. It would be BEAST to have ten
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Old 09/06/2010, 05:23 PM   #9
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Every player should have a decent Vileplume/Gengar list, even if they use it just for testing with redshark/proxies.

Anyone who doesn't play it just cos it's popular needs to read this:

http://www.sirlin.net/articles/playi...in-part-1.html

I am hoping that having a good list on the front page means that there won't be 10 of them posted in DHS every single day.

Doubt it though.
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Old 09/06/2010, 07:13 PM   #10
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thankfully my deck rolls over vilegar :)
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Old 09/06/2010, 07:15 PM   #11
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oh dont say that! victory bell will get all offensive lol

although that is a pretty... interesting statement
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Old 09/06/2010, 08:12 PM   #12
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Oh please tell me we're not going to have another year with someone complaining about a deck that is far from unbeatable...

Yes, it may be annoying. Get over it. Build something that beats it if it bothers you so much. Anyway, I thought you people were still supposed to be complaining about Luxchomp. You must be ahead of schedule, as you have at the very least a month or so to complain about how Luxchomp is so uber before you move on to whining about gengar.
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Old 09/06/2010, 08:14 PM   #13
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There are plenty of decks that beat vilegar. It's not broken or anything, and I haven't even seen it played much yet.
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Old 09/06/2010, 08:15 PM   #14
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if you havent seen it played how do you know what deck can beat it???
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Old 09/06/2010, 08:22 PM   #15
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if you havent seen it played how do you know what deck can beat it???
I have seen it played. It's not unbeatable.
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Old 09/06/2010, 08:23 PM   #16
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It's just one of those deck combos that MAKES SENSE. Vileplume is like the ONE card that Gengar players have been waiting for. So, let them eat cake :)

I think it's a little slow, but some build have been very impressive.

DON'T HATE THE GAME, DON'T HATE THE PLAYER... uh... hate your deck ? ... i lost myself there...
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Old 09/06/2010, 08:27 PM   #17
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Well if you dont like it play dilga g x in a deck.
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Old 09/06/2010, 08:27 PM   #18
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Old 09/06/2010, 08:49 PM   #19
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I HATE VILEGARS SO MUCH!!!
I don't know anybody who doesn't have one or is working on one!!!
Comment if you like/dislike VileGar!
*Note: Yes, I at one point had one, but I took it apart and am now working on my own strategies. :P
You should have one to test with, regardless if you want to play it or not. Also, it's awesome to play your own strategies, but don't complain about other strategies. Things are popular for a reason.

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played Vilegar but it's super popular now so i rather not.
Yeah popular decks are terrible. =\

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Thats easy as any good Vilegar runs like 3+ judge.
I haven't seen that. I think Looker's is a much better play than Judge here, and I don't even think that needs to be played in 3s/4s.

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Every player should have a decent Vileplume/Gengar list, even if they use it just for testing with redshark/proxies.

Anyone who doesn't play it just cos it's popular needs to read this:

http://www.sirlin.net/articles/playi...in-part-1.html

I am hoping that having a good list on the front page means that there won't be 10 of them posted in DHS every single day.

Doubt it though.
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Old 09/06/2010, 09:01 PM   #20
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if you havent seen it played how do you know what deck can beat it???
Because some matchups are just obvious. Dialgachomp for instance is a pretty bad matchup.
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Old 09/06/2010, 10:00 PM   #21
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the deck is bad. its supposed to win the sp matchup , it doesnt. dialga/chomp. luxchomp, sablelock, even palkia lock beats it.

why are u hating on the deck? its not amazing... just find a way to beat it.
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Old 09/06/2010, 10:06 PM   #22
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Old 09/07/2010, 02:18 AM   #23
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Umbreon UD says "nom nom nom" and Steelix prime says "SMASH" (These are just assumptions DON'T FLAME ME!)

I can't believe people be hating on the deck and it hasn't even appeared at a tourney yet. There will always be that deck that does better than other decks, thats just how all TCG games are. Though i haven't really had a chance to test VileGar as my PC is broken so no RS =(. Though it is about time Gengar SF got something that can support it as Gengar SF was never the most consistent of attackers as the opponent could easily get rid of T/S/S limiting Gengar"s poltegiest dmg, but now without Claydol for constant hand refreshing Gengar can actually do 90 damage on a consistent basis.

But hey look on the bright side - At least Luxchomp isn't the most hated deck anymore.
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Old 09/07/2010, 09:34 AM   #24
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To you guys who are hating so hard, Stop hating and just play something like t-tar ampharos. Its about the hardest counter for this deck. Its not that tough.
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Old 09/07/2010, 10:07 AM   #25
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Every player should have a decent Vileplume/Gengar list, even if they use it just for testing with redshark/proxies.

Anyone who doesn't play it just cos it's popular needs to read this:

http://www.sirlin.net/articles/playi...in-part-1.html

I am hoping that having a good list on the front page means that there won't be 10 of them posted in DHS every single day.

Doubt it though.
Cant really say anything about this because baby mario has already said it all. Great article thanks for posting it baby mario!
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