Machamp Umbreon???

humchum · 10/13/2010, 12:09 PM

Hi everyone, i was looking on sixprizes.com today and there was a new article about Machamp Umbreon
however it was underground content and ive just got a basic membership. So i was wondering if anyone could give me an idea to what machamp umbreon is.

**baby mario** · 10/13/2010, 12:13 PM

Machamp SF + Umbreon UD

Champ kills SP

Umbreon counters Vilegar (probably Champs worst match up) and a few other decks as well.

TheGeneral · 10/13/2010, 12:14 PM

^ true. Umbreon UD also counters ANOTHER bad match-up for Machamp, Donphan.

humchum · 10/13/2010, 12:14 PM

thanks baby mario, do you think it will be worth playing?

**baby mario** · 10/13/2010, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by humchum

thanks baby mario, do you think it will be worth playing?

If you play in an area where SP and Vilegar are popular, then it's worth a shot.

Yoshi- · 10/14/2010, 11:25 AM

Umbreon doesn tbeat Donphan because of Phanpy o.ô

Deoxys Cool Form · 10/14/2010, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Yoshi-

Umbreon doesn tbeat Donphan because of Phanpy o.ô

If it's forcing you to attack with Phanpy, it's obviously doing something right.

smacktack15 · 10/14/2010, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Deoxys Cool Form

If it's forcing you to attack with Phanpy, it's obviously doing something right.

Then you Take Out on Phanpy XD

Yoshi- · 10/14/2010, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Deoxys Cool Form

If it's forcing you to attack with Phanpy, it's obviously doing something right.

Its the only counter of the deck and the counter is easily countered. So this deck shouldnt beat Donphan

Deoxys Cool Form · 10/14/2010, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Yoshi-

Its the only counter of the deck and the counter is easily countered. So this deck shouldnt beat Donphan

Let's see:

I use Umbreon's attack to do 30 to a random Pokemon.

You can't use Phanpy's attack so you just send it out so it gets hit again.

They send out Machamp and use Take out on Phanpy.

You bring out Donphan and hit for 60.

I keep doing this strategy with Umbreon and you keep giving away free prizes from Phanpy's.

Not easily countered, no.

Not saying it auto wins Donphan because of this tech, but it does help a lot.

**baby mario** · 10/14/2010, 02:15 PM

It makes things inconvenient for the Donphan player, which is sometimes enough to sneak a win in a bad match up.

Other than that, I agree with Yoshi, it shouldn't turn it in Champ's favour.

Steelix has a hard time against Umbreon. Trying to get KOs with Swing Around Onix and Chanseys isn't much fun.

*Kayle* · 10/14/2010, 06:41 PM

Most lists I've seen have 2 Steelix Prime and 1 SF steelix just in case of Umbreon.

10/13/2010, 12:13 PM	#2
baby mario Front Page Article Editor 2010 Theme Deck Champion	Machamp SF + Umbreon UD Champ kills SP Umbreon counters Vilegar (probably Champs worst match up) and a few other decks as well. __________________ Read my article on Blastoise/Keldeo pleaseUK National Seniors Champion '10 \|\| Worlds Competitor '08, 09, '10, '11 Worlds 2012 Top 32 Masters Division YOU/USEDTO_B E A_LRIGHT_AT/POKE_MON WHAT /HA_PPENED

10/14/2010, 02:15 PM	#11
baby mario Front Page Article Editor 2010 Theme Deck Champion	It makes things inconvenient for the Donphan player, which is sometimes enough to sneak a win in a bad match up. Other than that, I agree with Yoshi, it shouldn't turn it in Champ's favour. Steelix has a hard time against Umbreon. Trying to get KOs with Swing Around Onix and Chanseys isn't much fun. __________________ Read my article on Blastoise/Keldeo pleaseUK National Seniors Champion '10 \|\| Worlds Competitor '08, 09, '10, '11 Worlds 2012 Top 32 Masters Division YOU/USEDTO_B E A_LRIGHT_AT/POKE_MON WHAT /HA_PPENED

10/14/2010, 06:41 PM	#12
Kayle Images: 2	Most lists I've seen have 2 Steelix Prime and 1 SF steelix just in case of Umbreon. __________________ Team B-Side \|\| cardmaker, competitive tcg player, competitive vg player. \|\| \|\| programmer, game designer; fantasy writer, amateur artist. \|\| .....the figter of shadows.....

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10/13/2010, 12:09 PM	#1
humchum	Machamp Umbreon??? Hi everyone, i was looking on sixprizes.com today and there was a new article about Machamp Umbreon however it was underground content and ive just got a basic membership. So i was wondering if anyone could give me an idea to what machamp umbreon is.

10/13/2010, 12:14 PM	#3
TheGeneral	^ true. Umbreon UD also counters ANOTHER bad match-up for Machamp, Donphan. __________________ 1st Place Ventura BR '08-'09--2nd Place Pasadena BR '09-'10 1st Place Ventura BR (again) '09-'10--2nd Place Carpinteria Cities '09-'10 Top 16 Nevada States '09-'10--3rd Place Southern California Regionals '09-'10 2nd Place Pasadena BR (again) '09-'10

10/14/2010, 11:25 AM	#6
Yoshi-	Umbreon doesn tbeat Donphan because of Phanpy o.ô __________________ ~ German National Champion 2010 (Masters) ~ ~ 1st Place European Professor Cup 2010 ~ ~ T32 Worlds 2010 ~ ~ Team Hatter ~