Gengar Killer

[Epic]

So im tired of alll the hype of gengar, i mean do ppl not look at the rest of the format? Seriously, Weavile G, TTar, Honchkrow SV. So many things that can be teched or played to beat gengar. So this is my attempt to show people that gengar is going to loose, or not be a world changing card.

21 pokemans

3-1 luxray GL X
2-2 Garchomp C X
3 Weavile G
1 Promocroak
1 Ambipom/Dragonite FB
2-1 Uxie X
1 Aelf
1 Unknown Q
1 Smeargle
1 Crobat G
1 Lucario GL


28 Trainers/Supporters

4 Cyrus Conspiracy
4 Pokemons collector
3 SP radar
4 Power Spray
4 Poketurn
4 E-gain
1 Aarons
1 VS seeker
1 Premier Ball
1 Lux ball
1 Bebe

11 Energy

4 DCE
2 Lightning
1 Psychic
2 Dark
2 Warp Energy


I'm sorry if it seems like im hatin' but i dont think ppl think before they go on the gym and start posting about how broken cards are before they know how they will do in the actual format.

Strategy: Standard luxchomp, hopefully start with weavile and get the t1 3 SP and 1-2 sprays in hand. Weavile is for Gengar.

[Kayle]

I'm pretty sure people tried Luxchomp with Weavile in the past and didn't have much luck with it. You would need a full bench and 2 energy + gain to KO Gengar; bear in mind that they don't rely a great deal on powers and have access to Mesprit as well just to screw with you.

Why 3-1 Luxray, also?

[Epic]

Gyrados wont die once people realize it can beat gengar to.

The statement you made has almost nothing to do w/ the matchup. First im playing SP and all i need is ONE weavile w/ 2 energy and a gain and 4-5 SP's on bench depending on flash bites to OHKO a stage 2 pokemon. Do i need powers to get a weavile active and 5 benched pokemon ? no not really

Thank you for the constructive criticizum!

[espy87]

Gengar with a Rescue Energy still have Fainting Spell to come back at you and trainer lock. I find that Magnezone Prime/Regirock/Skuntank G seems to perform well across the board.

[Cetra]

You don't need anything to beat gengar in luxchomp, but if you're that worried about it, a 1-1 umbreon ud tech seems to own face.

If this is about gengar prime, disregard everything I just said

[Epic]

It is gengar prime ;D haha probably shoulda said that

[sunchris]

You can try and use Absol G X to help against Gengar like I did. Darkness Slugger can help with getting rid of useless trainers in your hand, does 60 with the discard + you can count weakness so 120 if its x2 or 90 if its +30, and Absol G has a -20 resistance to gengar.

[xcfrisco]

I'd be very wary of using any lv.X to counter Gengar Prime because if you have the unfortunate luck to start with it/draw into it and not play it down immediately, there's a very good chance that you're getting sent to the lost zone.

The way to counter G. Prime is to take 6 prizes faster than it can send 6 pokemon to the lost zone. I think luxchomp will already have a great shot at this. What's nice is that gengar doesnt have that super annoying power fainting spell that gengar sf has.

Best bet to counter gengar is to play an agressive list, no need for weavile imo. 4 sprays would be a must too cause you're really want to going to deny any set-up they give. If they go the VileGar route then drop luxchomp and play dialgachomp instead. 2-2 lines of everything is a must too imo as its way too easy to get things (like your 1 lv x) sent to the lost zone if the gengar player is just spamming hurl into darkness every turn.

Tyranitar abslutely ruins Gengar prime too. Honchkrow SV does great damage and is pretty splashable in SP. Good ole fashioned Sablelock does a good number against Gengar Prime too.

[Epic]

Xcfrisco: I understand what your saying about an agreessive list, but the thing is no matter how aggressive you play they will just stack on energy on the G. Prime. You need to kill the gengar.

Sunchris: Absol is a good tech, but like Xfrisco said playing a lvl X is always risky

Thank you both for the ideas ;) greatly appreciated

[AyameHikaru]

1-2 Absol Prime fixes your Gengar matchup. Yes, it takes 2 energy, but if you run Bronzong G (As most LuxChomp do) you can get it up in one turn. For the sacrifice of one pokemon to the Lost Zone, you OHKO a Gengar Prime. No bat drops required, no full bench required, no Expert Belt required, no Energy Gain required.

And most smart Gengar Prime players won't stack energy on one Gengar, it's too risky. They'll spread them out over as many Gengars as they can get up.

-3 Weavile G
-1 Smeargle
-1 Collector
-5

+2 Absol Prime
+1 Bronzong G
+1 Bebe's
+1 Dark Energy
+5

[King of Japan]

If you want a gengar killer that also effectively counters gyarados play honchkrow sv

[rayquaza2222]

Have you tested it? Does it work? Can it be expanded to the next Pokemon that people think its that world changing card? A deck can't just be for one strategy like this! Can it defeat my Lv.X and Prime Mayhem?