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Old 04/04/2011, 07:37 PM   #1
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Umbreon/Tyranitar/Celebii

Deeply in need of help with this deck, so what do you think?

Pokemon: 18
Tyranitar prime X1: Unleashed
Larvitar X2: Unleashed
Umbreon X4: Undaunted
Eevee X4: Undaunted
Hosea X2: Unleashed
Kingdra prime X2: Unleashed
Uxie X1
Scyther X1
Scizor X1

Trainer: 30
Pokemon's communication X2
Rare candy X4
Interviewers questions X2
Fisherman X2
Prof Elm Training method X4
Copycat X2
Moomoo Milk X4
Expert belt X2
Judge X3
Pokemon Collector X1

Energy: 15
Darkness X5
Water X3
Double colorless X1
Special Dark X4
Special Metal X2

Kingdra is mostly here for that lovely pokepower.
I love the way Scizor works with Umbreon for a nice full sheild.
Leaving Tyranitar for those pesky huge HP pokemon.

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Old 04/04/2011, 08:17 PM   #2
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"Id say take out most of this deck actually. Butterfree isn't needed, nor is Jirachi or Celebi. With that aside, I also don't think that Vileplume is going to be good here either. Now that frees up some space for things that can help. Houndoom Prime and Umbreon are probably going to be back up attackers or stalling a bit while you get your Tyranitar set up. Now, only one Tyranitar isn't going to be doing a whole lot, especially when Tyranitar is supposed to be your main attacker. Bump him up to either 3 Tyranitar Prime- 2 Pupitar- 3 Larvitar or 4 Tyranitar Prime-2 Pupitar-4 Larvitar.

For the supporters/trainers, I'd say cut the Interviewers down to one or two (you really don't need a whole lot of energy really quickly) and use those extra slots for some Bebe's Search and/or Pokemon collector to help you get set up quicker.

Lastly, with energy, with Celebi, Jirachi, and Vileplume gone, you really don't need those grass or psychic energy, meaning you have more room for more Dark energy and maybe 1 or two Double Colorless.
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Old 04/05/2011, 07:30 AM   #3
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I'm taking most of your advice and updating it accordingly. Thank you!
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Old 04/05/2011, 08:38 AM   #4
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I don't see any Pupitar!

I would:
-5 Dark Energy
-2 E-Belt
-4 PETM
-2 Fisherman
-1 Larvitar
-2 Interiewers
-2 Houndom Prime
-2 Houndour
-1 Unbroen
-1 Eevee
-4 Moomoo Milk

+2 Pupitar
+2 Uxie
+1 Azelf
+4 Sableye
+1 Unown Q
+2 Collector
+3 Bebe's
+4 Seeker
+1 Twins
+3 BTS
+3 Judge

I hope this helps. If you don't agree, just tell me what you don't agree on.
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Old 04/05/2011, 10:01 AM   #5
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To start off here I don't feel the need for Pupitar with rare candy.
The umbreons are life savers, and i don't want to get rid of any.
Broken time space helps my opponent a tad to much.
I'll take your advice for a couple things here however.
-2 Houndom Prime
-2 Houndour
-2 Dark energy
+2 Uxie
+1 Azelf
+3 Judge
Thanks for the impute.
PS: why do you think i should get rid of 5 of the energy? I think that's just a tad to much to toss.

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Old 04/05/2011, 06:08 PM   #6
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^ Did you think of Trainer lock? Trainer lock will lock up the Rare Candies from use!

Ok, just leave the Umbreons

Dude, most decks run BTS anyway. Think on the good side, it will help you allot!!!

You will still have 6 Energies left of Dark Energies (Special and Basic)
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Old 04/05/2011, 06:58 PM   #7
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^ Did you think of Trainer lock? Trainer lock will lock up the Rare Candies from use!
True but I figure that'd what umbreon is for.

Dude, most decks run BTS anyway. Think on the good side, it will help you allot!!!

While a valid point I'm not sure that it's worth it it's never really been a problem for me.

You will still have 6 Energies left of Dark Energies (Special and Basic)
True but it doesn't quite cut it. See this I need 1 dark energy per ubreon, 2 dark energies per tyranitar That's 7 off the bat plus i need a couple more in case there in my prizes.

Thanks for the ideas but I don't think it's required... I'll give it somne more thought though.
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Old 04/06/2011, 06:56 AM   #8
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^ what are you talking about? Umbreon can't fix anything from that Trainer lock!

not using BTS will slow your deck down. you do know that if a BTS is in play, you can play a Larvitar, use a Rare Candy, and get T-tar out in one turn!

if the energies are in the Prizes, just use Azelf to get a Pokemon out, and Memorize where the Energy is (I did such things at States, nothing wrong with it).
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Old 04/06/2011, 10:24 AM   #9
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I didn't mean Umbreon will fix the trainer lock, but that Umbreon doesn't need trainers to be used.

All right, I guess your right about BTS. I'll see if I can trade for one at my league.

And yeah, I could use Azelf to get energies, but normally when you need energy, the last thing you'll be doing is knocking out pokemon to get prizes. But I do see your point and if I can get my hands on BTS I'll switch it out for an energy.
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Old 04/07/2011, 02:39 PM   #10
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One last question. Do you think this would go good with the coming zoroark? (I'm thinking remove 2 uxie and the azelf to make room for 2 zorua and 1 zoroark. Opinions?
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Old 04/07/2011, 04:53 PM   #11
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Well, I wouldn't take out Uxie and Azelf. You could add a 1-1 Zoroark.
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Old 04/08/2011, 01:43 PM   #12
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Warp Energy might save your butt. T-Tar's high retreat cost makes him a pain to pull to the bench unless you have Super Scoop Up's or Seekers, but even with Seekers you'll need him to be on your bench first.

Broken Time Space will help you greatly for speeding up your deck to bring out your T-Tar Primes.
Try running one or two Unown Q's to help your Uxie/Azelf have free retreat so you can pull them back to your bench easily.
Four Expert Belts seems quite the overkill considering you only have 2 Tyranitar Primes.
I'm temped to suggest finding a way to put 2 Bebe's Search and 2 Pokemon Communication instead of just 3 Pokemon Communication due to trainer lock being popular nowadays.

Hope your deck is fun and works out the way you want it to! Good luck.
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Old 04/10/2011, 08:24 AM   #13
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Thanks for the suggestion. While I'm not interested in changing out the energies in any way perhaps I should throw in a couple of switches. Perhaps to replace pokemon collector.
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Old 04/11/2011, 12:25 PM   #14
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Sorry for the double post...
I really changed the deck, what I think I want is to find another steel type to put in and then toss the kingdras but I'm not sure which. So once again I hope my plea for help is herd. Thank you!
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