HGSS-on Beartic. - Page 2

Sceptile King · 11/09/2011, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by GHGengar

hey,
take a look at this.
It's my list, which i played at Prague cup and went on 5th place.

http://pokegym.net/forums/showthread.php?t=156661

That is pretty amazing. I feel more motivated to play my deck. I'm sorta speechless. What you typed up was amazing
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GHGengar · 11/10/2011, 05:35 AM

oh thanks!
i'm sure you will do best with it and hope you can win with it.

Sceptile King · 11/10/2011, 07:24 AM

I'm sure I can only thing that is stopping is the flu, but I'm feeling way better than the last few days.

Back on topic. Is there any last changes that I might need to do?
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Alazor · 11/10/2011, 10:26 AM

I would take out a Cubchoo for a Cleffa. If you don't have one, I would use Magby, Smoochum, or Aipom instead. You could also try a Bellsprout or Smeargle. You need a tech basic that you think would work best.

If you use Magby, you can Shut Off the active's Poke-Power. If you use Cleffa, you can set up better.

Sceptile King · 11/10/2011, 02:01 PM

I'll try magby out. I'll see if it works well with the deck.

GHGengar · 11/11/2011, 07:16 AM

i don't thik you need more because you have spped and consitency with my list. May ou try it.

Sceptile King · 11/13/2011, 11:06 AM

So. Would using Elekid and/or Pichu be wise?
Here is the Pokemon line:

3-1-2 Vileplume/Bellesom
2-1-2 Serperior Ability
1-1 Dodrio (retreat aid)
1 Elekid
1-1 R&S Legend
4-4 beartic (3 sheer cold/1 icy wind)
I'm trying it this build w/out Zekrom

Alazor · 11/14/2011, 04:44 PM

I like Magby better because burn stacks, I have not tried out Elekid though. I would consider Revenge Bouffalant to even out prizes or Sunflora (HGSS) to move ahead in the set up.

Sceptile King · 11/14/2011, 05:28 PM

I think Sunflora would be a little much. I'm a little iffy about Bouffalant.
I have some more changes to go through and I'll post it up later.

Sceptile King · 11/15/2011, 05:29 PM

Pokemon:
3-1-3 Vileplume/Bellesom
2-1-2 Serperior Ability
1-1 Dodrio (retreat aid)
1 Pichu
1-1 R&S Legend
4-4 Beartic (3 sheer cold/1 icy wind)

energy:15
4

3 Rainbow
8

t/s/s:
3 Rare candy
4 communication
2 twins
1 Cheren
1 FSL
3 collector
4 copycat

So this is what i have so far. I still have to test it out but this is it.
2 juniper.

Alazor · 11/15/2011, 05:53 PM

I am wondering if 4 Copycat is a good idea with N, Judge, and Yanmega Prime? It could be, I tend to underrate Copycat. The trainer lock should help. I hear the Icy Wind Beartic could actually be better.

Have you taken this deck to any tournaments?

Sceptile King · 11/15/2011, 05:57 PM

I don't have PONT so until I get that card Copycat is a substitute.
I have been sick this and last week so I couldn't go to Regional.

Sceptile King · 11/20/2011, 10:12 PM

Should I take out Serperior Line and put in something like Blissey Prime w/seeker?

Alazor · 11/22/2011, 04:03 PM

If you want to play Blissey, I would play 1-1 Blissey Prime with Seeker. Or, if you have enough room to fit in Rescue Energy with the pokemon line, you could play 2-2 Blissey (one prime, one non-prime). Blissey non-prime is great if you are playing a long game and have run out of attackers. Its first attack does not do a lot of damage, but it will stay in the game for a while, especially with trainer lock. I like Dodrio a little better in Vileplume though.

Sceptile King · 11/22/2011, 04:16 PM

If I go the 1-1 Blissey Prime route, how many seekers should i run?

Alazor · 11/22/2011, 04:38 PM

If you are playing 1-1 Blissey Prime, 2 Seeker is expected. I was thinking Spiritomb and Ditto (Triumphant) could be nice Seeker pokemon as well.

Sceptile King · 11/25/2011, 08:37 PM

Ditto and Spiritomb is a little much. Anyway Do I need any more touch-ups before going to Cities?
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Sceptile King · 11/29/2011, 08:04 PM

Just got 2 more twins. What should i take out for it?

Alazor · 12/03/2011, 06:47 AM

-1 Comm
-1 Copycat or Cheren
+2 Twins

That should work. I don't think you need as many Communications if you are playing that thick of a Beartic line.

Good luck!

Sceptile King · 12/10/2011, 09:47 AM

Okay, so I have done some research on upcoming and dominating decks. How should I change this list around to stand against the meta?
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Alazor · 12/10/2011, 04:10 PM

I would be concerned about Chandelure/Jirachi Vileplume (since you are playing a Vileplume deck yourself),
Durant, and Kyurem/Electrode/Cobalion. Cobalion could be a problem for Beartic, but your opponent does not get to pick who gets dragged up. You know if you can borrow a Kyurem at a tournament that would not be a bad idea. Otherwise go with Zekrom. This may be risky, but I would say play the meta as part of your deck somewhat to see what can be part of your deck, at the same time you are playtesting somewhat against other archetypes if you know how to use them. If you have a Redshark or anything like that, this would be a good time to playtest. I don't know the matchups unfortunately, there's always a surprise factor that gives an edge for newer cards.

Sceptile King · 12/11/2011, 12:56 PM

wait i thought posted something? oh well. Here is an idea I thought of after viewing a few decks. What if I included Cobalion NVI and took out the legend??
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Sceptile King · 12/14/2011, 04:25 AM

After looknig at Scans and what not, How 'bout adding in Kyerum EX and Moltres/with Fire from NEXT destinies?

---------- Post added 12/14/2011 at 04:29 AM ----------

After looking at some scans, what about adding in Kyerum EX and Moltres w/fire energy? Possibly replacing the Legend
and something else.

OH also changes: -2 Juniper, +2 Cheren.
I found myself in a situation where I had a full hand of good cards with a Juniper in hand also

kidwithhat · 12/14/2011, 10:29 AM

you definitely need a 4-4-4 serperior line.. and take out rare candy, it sucks

Sceptile King · 12/14/2011, 06:55 PM

Why do I need a 4-4-4 line of Serperior? With my build, its just fine.
Also why does serperior suck??
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EDIT: I mean rare candy. Why does Rare candy suck?

11/10/2011, 10:26 AM	#29
Alazor Images: 3	I would take out a Cubchoo for a Cleffa. If you don't have one, I would use Magby, Smoochum, or Aipom instead. You could also try a Bellsprout or Smeargle. You need a tech basic that you think would work best. If you use Magby, you can Shut Off the active's Poke-Power. If you use Cleffa, you can set up better. __________________ Remember 9/11. "I don't think of all the misery but of the beauty that still remains." -Anne Frank

11/14/2011, 04:44 PM	#33
Alazor Images: 3	I like Magby better because burn stacks, I have not tried out Elekid though. I would consider Revenge Bouffalant to even out prizes or Sunflora (HGSS) to move ahead in the set up. __________________ Remember 9/11. "I don't think of all the misery but of the beauty that still remains." -Anne Frank

11/15/2011, 05:53 PM	#36
Alazor Images: 3	I am wondering if 4 Copycat is a good idea with N, Judge, and Yanmega Prime? It could be, I tend to underrate Copycat. The trainer lock should help. I hear the Icy Wind Beartic could actually be better. Have you taken this deck to any tournaments? __________________ Remember 9/11. "I don't think of all the misery but of the beauty that still remains." -Anne Frank

11/22/2011, 04:03 PM	#39
Alazor Images: 3	If you want to play Blissey, I would play 1-1 Blissey Prime with Seeker. Or, if you have enough room to fit in Rescue Energy with the pokemon line, you could play 2-2 Blissey (one prime, one non-prime). Blissey non-prime is great if you are playing a long game and have run out of attackers. Its first attack does not do a lot of damage, but it will stay in the game for a while, especially with trainer lock. I like Dodrio a little better in Vileplume though. __________________ Remember 9/11. "I don't think of all the misery but of the beauty that still remains." -Anne Frank

11/22/2011, 04:38 PM	#41
Alazor Images: 3	If you are playing 1-1 Blissey Prime, 2 Seeker is expected. I was thinking Spiritomb and Ditto (Triumphant) could be nice Seeker pokemon as well. __________________ Remember 9/11. "I don't think of all the misery but of the beauty that still remains." -Anne Frank Last edited by Alazor; 11/23/2011 at 02:40 PM.

11/10/2011, 05:35 AM	#27
GHGengar	oh thanks! i'm sure you will do best with it and hope you can win with it.

11/10/2011, 07:24 AM	#28
Sceptile King	I'm sure I can only thing that is stopping is the flu, but I'm feeling way better than the last few days. Back on topic. Is there any last changes that I might need to do? Posted with Mobile style...

11/10/2011, 02:01 PM	#30
Sceptile King	I'll try magby out. I'll see if it works well with the deck.

11/11/2011, 07:16 AM	#31
GHGengar	i don't thik you need more because you have spped and consitency with my list. May ou try it.

11/13/2011, 11:06 AM	#32
Sceptile King	So. Would using Elekid and/or Pichu be wise? Here is the Pokemon line: 3-1-2 Vileplume/Bellesom 2-1-2 Serperior Ability 1-1 Dodrio (retreat aid) 1 Elekid 1-1 R&S Legend 4-4 beartic (3 sheer cold/1 icy wind) I'm trying it this build w/out Zekrom __________________ Deck Help: Trades God Bless

11/14/2011, 05:28 PM	#34
Sceptile King	I think Sunflora would be a little much. I'm a little iffy about Bouffalant. I have some more changes to go through and I'll post it up later. __________________ Deck Help: Trades God Bless

11/15/2011, 05:29 PM	#35
Sceptile King	Pokemon: 3-1-3 Vileplume/Bellesom 2-1-2 Serperior Ability 1-1 Dodrio (retreat aid) 1 Pichu 1-1 R&S Legend 4-4 Beartic (3 sheer cold/1 icy wind) energy:15 4 3 Rainbow 8 t/s/s: 3 Rare candy 4 communication 2 twins 1 Cheren 1 FSL 3 collector 4 copycat So this is what i have so far. I still have to test it out but this is it. 2 juniper.

11/15/2011, 05:57 PM	#37
Sceptile King	I don't have PONT so until I get that card Copycat is a substitute. I have been sick this and last week so I couldn't go to Regional. __________________ Deck Help: Trades God Bless

11/20/2011, 10:12 PM	#38
Sceptile King	Should I take out Serperior Line and put in something like Blissey Prime w/seeker? __________________ Deck Help: Trades God Bless

11/22/2011, 04:16 PM	#40
Sceptile King	If I go the 1-1 Blissey Prime route, how many seekers should i run? __________________ Deck Help: Trades God Bless

11/25/2011, 08:37 PM	#42
Sceptile King	Ditto and Spiritomb is a little much. Anyway Do I need any more touch-ups before going to Cities? Posted with Mobile style... __________________ Deck Help: Trades God Bless

11/29/2011, 08:04 PM	#43
Sceptile King	Just got 2 more twins. What should i take out for it? __________________ Deck Help: Trades God Bless

12/03/2011, 06:47 AM	#44
Alazor Images: 3	-1 Comm -1 Copycat or Cheren +2 Twins That should work. I don't think you need as many Communications if you are playing that thick of a Beartic line. Good luck! __________________ Remember 9/11. "I don't think of all the misery but of the beauty that still remains." -Anne Frank

12/10/2011, 09:47 AM	#45
Sceptile King	Okay, so I have done some research on upcoming and dominating decks. How should I change this list around to stand against the meta? Posted with Mobile style... __________________ Deck Help: Trades God Bless

12/10/2011, 04:10 PM	#46
Alazor Images: 3	I would be concerned about Chandelure/Jirachi Vileplume (since you are playing a Vileplume deck yourself), Durant, and Kyurem/Electrode/Cobalion. Cobalion could be a problem for Beartic, but your opponent does not get to pick who gets dragged up. You know if you can borrow a Kyurem at a tournament that would not be a bad idea. Otherwise go with Zekrom. This may be risky, but I would say play the meta as part of your deck somewhat to see what can be part of your deck, at the same time you are playtesting somewhat against other archetypes if you know how to use them. If you have a Redshark or anything like that, this would be a good time to playtest. I don't know the matchups unfortunately, there's always a surprise factor that gives an edge for newer cards. __________________ Remember 9/11. "I don't think of all the misery but of the beauty that still remains." -Anne Frank

12/11/2011, 12:56 PM	#47
Sceptile King	wait i thought posted something? oh well. Here is an idea I thought of after viewing a few decks. What if I included Cobalion NVI and took out the legend?? Posted with Mobile style... __________________ Deck Help: Trades God Bless

12/14/2011, 04:25 AM	#48
Sceptile King	After looknig at Scans and what not, How 'bout adding in Kyerum EX and Moltres/with Fire from NEXT destinies? ---------- Post added 12/14/2011 at 04:29 AM ---------- After looking at some scans, what about adding in Kyerum EX and Moltres w/fire energy? Possibly replacing the Legend and something else. OH also changes: -2 Juniper, +2 Cheren. I found myself in a situation where I had a full hand of good cards with a Juniper in hand also __________________ Deck Help: Trades God Bless

12/14/2011, 10:29 AM	#49
kidwithhat	you definitely need a 4-4-4 serperior line.. and take out rare candy, it sucks

12/14/2011, 06:55 PM	#50
Sceptile King	Why do I need a 4-4-4 line of Serperior? With my build, its just fine. Also why does serperior suck?? Posted with Mobile style... EDIT: I mean rare candy. Why does Rare candy suck? __________________ Deck Help: Trades God Bless Last edited by Sceptile King; 12/24/2011 at 10:31 PM.

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