Feraligator EX What goes well with this croc

Cephiro · 02/19/2005, 07:55 PM

I trust you all have seen the japanese version of the cards or at least the spoilers so, now its time for debate...What goes well with this croc EX? Some cards i have in mind are maybe bench damaging pokemon/bench targetters, even maybe the Unown with the Hidden Power that can do 20 to all opponent's pokemon...hmmmm

.I know its little early for this but its good to at least get ready. So start the shooting! Discuss...

Cephiro

wolf52525 · 02/19/2005, 07:59 PM

Im testing it out with parasect right now, its easy to have it out and powered up turn 3. to shut them down and be doing 70 plus turn 3 is really good! If only it stoped zapdos, zapdos kills it every time.....

Cephiro · 02/19/2005, 08:02 PM

Hi wolf52525,

I see that your way of playing Feraligator EX is to power it up quickly with Parasect and start hitting for 70+ damage on most, if not, all of your opponent's pokemon, interesting tactic. ^^Sadly, it is at a heavy disadvantage to Zapdos EX (slaughter that lightning bird!). I for one, was thinking of a Feraligator EX and maybe with EX Deoxys Camerupt to do 30 to 2 of myopponent's pokemon and if theres a need, retrieve energies back to power up Feraligator EX.

Cephiro

kiyuto-faze 1 · 02/19/2005, 08:07 PM

Well in unlimited or in modified I would run Gatr-EX with Toise-EX. Use Toise-EX to power gatr quickly and since the toise is an ex gatr's body doesn't affect it at all. So a either a possible turn 1 or 2 Gatr-EX.

Also the only threats would be zappy ex or muk ex decks, bar is no threat unless this deck gets a horrible start and other decks like monarchy and draggy will get slaughtered by the Gatr's body.

CrimsonWarrior26 · 02/19/2005, 08:08 PM

um maybe FR/LG Parasect You canget it ready to attach by turn 3/4 if you get lucky. But other than that not much since all Powers except those of EX are turned off. One idea is too include a few Warp Points Switch and one Pidgeot. Use Switch/Warp Point to bring out Pidgeot. Use Quick Search and Retreat.

Cephiro · 02/19/2005, 08:27 PM

Hi people,

Nice strategies you two got there. The thought of using Space Center to shut down the opponent further did not cross my mind, but now it has, kudos CrimsonWarrior26. Will try that out in the near future.

Cephiro

CrimsonWarrior26 · 02/19/2005, 10:39 PM

I kind of chaned my mind about Center since it won't work since Pokemon-ex are excluded and Legendary Accent is a Power not a Body. I guess nothing will ever be a goo tech against Zappy.

TylerM · 02/19/2005, 10:53 PM

Well..I have an Idea...wait till you know more about the set?

Cephiro · 02/20/2005, 12:23 AM

Hi CrimsonWarrior26,

Yes, i have seen that the Space Center does not work on the lightning bird, sigh. Maybe all one can do is a tech in lightning pokemon to counter it. Or even one of those safeguarding pokemon.

Hi TylerM,

Ok, we shall wait for your secret...(how secretive)...

Cephiro

***PokePop*** · 02/20/2005, 07:40 AM

Since the card has not been released yet, please give the spoiler here in this topic, crediting the source of your info.
Thanks.

Cephiro · 02/21/2005, 03:39 AM

Heres the spoiler as requested by PokePop. Sorry for inconveniences caused. This spoiler is taken from pokebeach.

SPOILER:

Feraligatr Ex
Stage two Water Pokémon
Hit Points: 150 and not 160

(Dom Jordan)
Poke-Body: Scary Tooth
If this Pokémon is your active Pokémon, all Poke-Power and Poke-Body (both players) stop working (except those from pokemon-ex).
[WC] Tsunami (30)
Does 10 damage to all of your opponent's benched Pokémon.
[WCCC] Strong Bite (70+)
Does 10 more damage for each damage counter on the defending Pokémon.
Retreat Cost: CCC
Weakness:L

Cephiro

Dom · 02/21/2005, 10:33 PM

It has 150HP.... Seriously, try looking at the card :)

Professor Aspen · 02/22/2005, 12:49 AM

Gatrex + Dark Amphy + ATM Rock + Pidgeot + Boost. Ultimate defencive annoyer deck.

Tagrineth · 02/22/2005, 03:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Professor Aspen

Gatrex + Dark Amphy + ATM Rock + Pidgeot + Boost. Ultimate defencive annoyer deck.

Too bad Gatr can't use Rock and stops Amphy and Pidgeot's powers...

Cephiro · 02/22/2005, 05:27 AM

Hi people,

IMO, there are two options when one plays Feraligator EX, one is to use it as a beatdown powerhouse with its attack and being able to shut down powers and bodies is indeed fascinating. The other option can be to use the Dark Ampharos as Professor Aspen has suggested to keep the powers on if the situation calls for it. Obviously, Feraligator EX decks should not have Pidgeot inside and should run large draw power instead.

Cephiro

wolf52525 · 02/22/2005, 07:25 AM

hey, we could use the uber broken unown that does 20 to all your opponents pokemon. use it twice and your golden.

Professor Aspen · 02/22/2005, 09:22 PM

Quote:

Too bad Gatr can't use Rock and stops Amphy and Pidgeot's powers...

ha, im fault, should realy think about teh card before jumping to conclusions... >_<;;

Cephiro just because Gatrex stops Pidgeot when it's active, doesn't mean you can't use Pidgeot. Gatrex pwns with Switch/Warp Point and with lots of drawing power.

Dom · 02/22/2005, 11:29 PM

Its HP is not 150/160, its 150. Seriously

Cephiro · 02/23/2005, 05:12 AM

Hi Professor Aspen,

I take back my stereotyped saying of Pidgeot, it obviously helps many people, but i for one try not to play it, yes i agree with you Feraligator EX with good positional board control and lots of draw power to get out the necessary cards is a good combo.

Hi Dom Jordan,

Yes i understand that its 150 Hp will change it now.

Hi wolf52525,

The hidden power unown of the new set is indeed intriguing, wonder whether there are any draw backs to that card. Hmmm....

Cephiro

wolf52525 · 02/23/2005, 02:36 PM

there has to be some kind of a draw back. that power on a basic with 60 hp and only colorless energy needs? I think not. I guess we will have to wait and see.

Whicker · 02/23/2005, 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TylerM

Well..I have an Idea...wait till you know more about the set?

I concur. I personally find it to be stupid preparing for the next set when Deoxys is still a fairly new set AND states are close.

Cephiro · 02/28/2005, 12:41 AM

Hi Whicker,

It doesn't hurt anybody by speculating and looking through the spoilers of the next set and coming up with a whole new idea, in fact some people enjoy it, while some obviously don't. (tongue-in-cheek)

Cephiro

hiddenlegion · 08/16/2005, 05:00 AM

Lets bring back life to this topic!
What goes well with Feraligator ex?
The other Fera? Octillery? Plz discuss as im in a dilemna

sceppy · 08/20/2005, 12:04 PM

Hi,
I saw an interesting deck which used Camerupt from DX and Warp Point along with FEX.You could
damaged all the benched Poke's,switch the Pokemon w/Warp Point and POW! FEX eats them alive.
Camerupt is useful because you could use Cammy ex to kill Grass.

ZAKtheGeek · 08/20/2005, 12:40 PM

I say gatr works well as a stage 2 t2 deck. Unfortunately, the modifed change does not go along well with this: both ruins and rock and very bad for such an idea.

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02/19/2005, 07:55 PM	#1
Cephiro	Feraligator EX What goes well with this croc I trust you all have seen the japanese version of the cards or at least the spoilers so, now its time for debate...What goes well with this croc EX? Some cards i have in mind are maybe bench damaging pokemon/bench targetters, even maybe the Unown with the Hidden Power that can do 20 to all opponent's pokemon...hmmmm .I know its little early for this but its good to at least get ready. So start the shooting! Discuss... Cephiro __________________ Our greatest glory is not in never failing, but in getting up everytime we fail! Current projects: Delta Electrokinesis

02/19/2005, 07:59 PM	#2
wolf52525	Im testing it out with parasect right now, its easy to have it out and powered up turn 3. to shut them down and be doing 70 plus turn 3 is really good! If only it stoped zapdos, zapdos kills it every time..... __________________ Team Or-ee-gon co-founder and proud member. Cason my friend, you will be missed

02/19/2005, 08:02 PM	#3
Cephiro	Hi wolf52525, I see that your way of playing Feraligator EX is to power it up quickly with Parasect and start hitting for 70+ damage on most, if not, all of your opponent's pokemon, interesting tactic. ^^Sadly, it is at a heavy disadvantage to Zapdos EX (slaughter that lightning bird!). I for one, was thinking of a Feraligator EX and maybe with EX Deoxys Camerupt to do 30 to 2 of myopponent's pokemon and if theres a need, retrieve energies back to power up Feraligator EX. Cephiro __________________ Our greatest glory is not in never failing, but in getting up everytime we fail! Current projects: Delta Electrokinesis Last edited by Cephiro; 02/19/2005 at 08:04 PM.

02/19/2005, 08:07 PM	#4
kiyuto-faze 1	Well in unlimited or in modified I would run Gatr-EX with Toise-EX. Use Toise-EX to power gatr quickly and since the toise is an ex gatr's body doesn't affect it at all. So a either a possible turn 1 or 2 Gatr-EX. Also the only threats would be zappy ex or muk ex decks, bar is no threat unless this deck gets a horrible start and other decks like monarchy and draggy will get slaughtered by the Gatr's body. __________________ 12G34 56H78 90O12 34S56 78T90 Last edited by kiyuto-faze 1; 02/19/2005 at 08:08 PM.

02/19/2005, 08:08 PM	#5
CrimsonWarrior26	um maybe FR/LG Parasect You canget it ready to attach by turn 3/4 if you get lucky. But other than that not much since all Powers except those of EX are turned off. One idea is too include a few Warp Points Switch and one Pidgeot. Use Switch/Warp Point to bring out Pidgeot. Use Quick Search and Retreat. __________________ [color=green]Tired of Internet Explorer? Then stop complaining and join the Revolution by downloading the web browser Mozillia Firefox. The following is a part from an AIM Chat CrimsonWarrior26:1337 5p34k iz kewl Dark Lord Sigma: No! Bo! Bo! Not 1337 5p34k! CrimsonWarrior26: lol Last edited by CrimsonWarrior26; 02/19/2005 at 08:28 PM.

02/19/2005, 08:27 PM	#6
Cephiro	Hi people, Nice strategies you two got there. The thought of using Space Center to shut down the opponent further did not cross my mind, but now it has, kudos CrimsonWarrior26. Will try that out in the near future. Cephiro __________________ Our greatest glory is not in never failing, but in getting up everytime we fail! Current projects: Delta Electrokinesis

02/19/2005, 10:39 PM	#7
CrimsonWarrior26	I kind of chaned my mind about Center since it won't work since Pokemon-ex are excluded and Legendary Accent is a Power not a Body. I guess nothing will ever be a goo tech against Zappy. __________________ [color=green]Tired of Internet Explorer? Then stop complaining and join the Revolution by downloading the web browser Mozillia Firefox. The following is a part from an AIM Chat CrimsonWarrior26:1337 5p34k iz kewl Dark Lord Sigma: No! Bo! Bo! Not 1337 5p34k! CrimsonWarrior26: lol

02/19/2005, 10:53 PM	#8
TylerM	Well..I have an Idea...wait till you know more about the set?

02/20/2005, 12:23 AM	#9
Cephiro	Hi CrimsonWarrior26, Yes, i have seen that the Space Center does not work on the lightning bird, sigh. Maybe all one can do is a tech in lightning pokemon to counter it. Or even one of those safeguarding pokemon. Hi TylerM, Ok, we shall wait for your secret...(how secretive)... Cephiro __________________ Our greatest glory is not in never failing, but in getting up everytime we fail! Current projects: Delta Electrokinesis

02/21/2005, 03:39 AM	#11
Cephiro	Heres the spoiler as requested by PokePop. Sorry for inconveniences caused. This spoiler is taken from pokebeach. SPOILER: Feraligatr Ex Stage two Water Pokémon Hit Points: 150 and not 160 (Dom Jordan) Poke-Body: Scary Tooth If this Pokémon is your active Pokémon, all Poke-Power and Poke-Body (both players) stop working (except those from pokemon-ex). [WC] Tsunami (30) Does 10 damage to all of your opponent's benched Pokémon. [WCCC] Strong Bite (70+) Does 10 more damage for each damage counter on the defending Pokémon. Retreat Cost: CCC Weakness:L Cephiro __________________ Our greatest glory is not in never failing, but in getting up everytime we fail! Current projects: Delta Electrokinesis Last edited by Cephiro; 02/23/2005 at 05:13 AM.

02/22/2005, 12:49 AM	#13
Professor Aspen	Gatrex + Dark Amphy + ATM Rock + Pidgeot + Boost. Ultimate defencive annoyer deck. __________________ Against Worlds being on Sunday! Was not the Western domain originally founded on Christianity? Why should we change for the sake of Capitalism, lets move Worlds! Example: There was a number1 player for the swiss rounds at NZ nationals, therefore the most likely to goto Worlds at the end of the day. Gaving up his number one spot to be in his Father's house on Sunday. Statically, PUI is lossing great talent by holding events on Sunday.

02/21/2005, 10:33 PM	#12
Dom	It has 150HP.... Seriously, try looking at the card :)

02/22/2005, 05:27 AM	#15
Cephiro	Hi people, IMO, there are two options when one plays Feraligator EX, one is to use it as a beatdown powerhouse with its attack and being able to shut down powers and bodies is indeed fascinating. The other option can be to use the Dark Ampharos as Professor Aspen has suggested to keep the powers on if the situation calls for it. Obviously, Feraligator EX decks should not have Pidgeot inside and should run large draw power instead. Cephiro __________________ Our greatest glory is not in never failing, but in getting up everytime we fail! Current projects: Delta Electrokinesis

02/22/2005, 07:25 AM	#16
wolf52525	hey, we could use the uber broken unown that does 20 to all your opponents pokemon. use it twice and your golden. __________________ Team Or-ee-gon co-founder and proud member. Cason my friend, you will be missed

02/22/2005, 11:29 PM	#18
Dom	Its HP is not 150/160, its 150. Seriously Last edited by Dom; 02/22/2005 at 11:31 PM.

02/23/2005, 05:12 AM	#19
Cephiro	Hi Professor Aspen, I take back my stereotyped saying of Pidgeot, it obviously helps many people, but i for one try not to play it, yes i agree with you Feraligator EX with good positional board control and lots of draw power to get out the necessary cards is a good combo. Hi Dom Jordan, Yes i understand that its 150 Hp will change it now. Hi wolf52525, The hidden power unown of the new set is indeed intriguing, wonder whether there are any draw backs to that card. Hmmm.... Cephiro __________________ Our greatest glory is not in never failing, but in getting up everytime we fail! Current projects: Delta Electrokinesis

02/23/2005, 02:36 PM	#20
wolf52525	there has to be some kind of a draw back. that power on a basic with 60 hp and only colorless energy needs? I think not. I guess we will have to wait and see. __________________ Team Or-ee-gon co-founder and proud member. Cason my friend, you will be missed

02/28/2005, 12:41 AM	#22
Cephiro	Hi Whicker, It doesn't hurt anybody by speculating and looking through the spoilers of the next set and coming up with a whole new idea, in fact some people enjoy it, while some obviously don't. (tongue-in-cheek) Cephiro __________________ Our greatest glory is not in never failing, but in getting up everytime we fail! Current projects: Delta Electrokinesis

08/16/2005, 05:00 AM	#23
hiddenlegion	Lets bring back life to this topic! What goes well with Feraligator ex? The other Fera? Octillery? Plz discuss as im in a dilemna

08/20/2005, 12:04 PM	#24
sceppy	Hi, I saw an interesting deck which used Camerupt from DX and Warp Point along with FEX.You could damaged all the benched Poke's,switch the Pokemon w/Warp Point and POW! FEX eats them alive. Camerupt is useful because you could use Cammy ex to kill Grass. __________________ Wow...never been asked for an autograph before...

08/20/2005, 12:40 PM	#25
ZAKtheGeek	I say gatr works well as a stage 2 t2 deck. Unfortunately, the modifed change does not go along well with this: both ruins and rock and very bad for such an idea.