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Old 01/13/2012, 07:18 PM   #1
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Hello i was woudering if any other pokegym members here ever got bullied and how they delt with it my dad tells me to fight back but i just cant do it for some reason its gotten so bad for alot of people at my school that sombody gets areested like everday how do u do with it?
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Old 01/13/2012, 08:18 PM   #2
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Old 01/13/2012, 08:31 PM   #3
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They all thought I would come to school and blow them all away, so the bullying stopped cold turkey -it was that bad. Today they teach you that it's wrong to bully, and that's mostly because people are scared of the next Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold taking out their anger in a very violent fashion. At the same time you're also taught to not fight back and not stick up for yourself, but how on Earth do you solve any problems? Through proxy? This is a hard question to answer and you're the only one who can deal with it no matter what kind of advice people give you.
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Old 01/13/2012, 08:47 PM   #4
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To be honest: Ignore it. Bullies will be bullies, and it'll come back around to them later in life. Meanwhile, your life will only get better and you'll have thicker skin because of it.
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Old 01/13/2012, 09:56 PM   #5
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If you tell them to stop bullying you and they keep on doing it anyways, then I would go up to someone and tell them to stop doing whatever it is they are doing. Fighting back against them will only make it worse in the long run.
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Old 01/13/2012, 10:12 PM   #6
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My advice? Just ignore them. Most bullies are all talk, and as soon as you don't rise to their bait they lose interest
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Old 01/15/2012, 03:36 AM   #7
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no me and my freinds problem is there not just talk they come up to us for no reason and just start like punching us in the face
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Old 01/15/2012, 04:15 AM   #8
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Schools shouldn't have violence like that. So #1 thing to know is you're not alone, it's really not personal, and it's not your fault.

The #2 thing to know is as soon as you're out of there, that problem goes away. You're in a different school with different people, or you're done with school altogether. No more bullying.

So good job asking for advice. You just have to figure out how to endure it.
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Old 01/15/2012, 06:37 AM   #9
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Well... if its physical violence (and your school's admins will disagree) then start taking a martial art. Because honestly, you have a right to defend yourself. Just don't get cocky because you're in it, but the next time they come up to punch you in the face and you block it and take the ready stance they will usually back down.
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Old 01/15/2012, 09:32 AM   #10
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When I was in middle school, when I was being bullied rather mercilessly... sometimes I told a teacher, and sometimes I didn't. A couple of times I tried to deal with the bullies myself.

I used to be bothered a lot by teachers telling me that I "should know this" when I ask for help or do poorly on a test. This led to feeling like I should figure out how solve my own problems and never ask for help, because if I need help then I am obviously too stupid to function. That of course never got me anywhere and it led to a long string of stressful situations.

The thing is that the adults working at a school are supposed to be supportive of their students. They're supposed to be the go-to people when a student has a problem. They're supposed to serve as a good example for being responsible and finding out solutions to problems, and to teach aggressive types that violence is never the answer.

In every case, I should have told a teacher or counselor what was going on. They would have helped me, and they would have found help for the bully (who was usually being a bully because that was how they were taught to act in order to counter the stress they themselves were going through during this very stressful period of a kid's life). I would not have been "lazy" or a "burden" by seeking out an adult to help me with this issue, because it was not my position as a student going to school, to deal with bullies on top of everything else I was having to deal with. I had my personal responsibilities to decipher the confusing lessons of the teachers and complete the homework and projects they assigned me. That was enough by itself; I wasn't going to cause any problems by reporting a bully to an adult, since calling attention to the actions of a bully is actually a step towards solving a problem.

tl;dr You have enough to deal with just going to school. If someone bullies you, tell a teacher or the closest available adult. Don't feel bad that you have to do this. It's not your problem for you to solve.
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Old 01/15/2012, 10:58 AM   #11
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If it's as bad as it sounds, record it if possible, and take pictures of your injuries. Show all of your teachers, and if you want to, show it to the police as well. While the teachers may not do much, the police can't really avoid the situation. Either way, what's more intimidating, a teacher or a police officer? Depends on the bullies, and how scared they are.

Fighting back isn't always a bad option, mainly because you won't get in trouble as they can't exactly snitch if they do it themselves. But, if there's a group of them, chances are they'll team up on you. I'd only do this if it's the 'leader' of them that you're going to fight, or if you're stronger/know a martial art.

My Grandad used to get beat up every day after school. One day he decided to fight back, as he was going to get beat up regradless. He punched the main guy in the face, and the bullies never once spoke/beat him up again, and chose someone else instead. The next victim wasn't exactly happy, but this method does work.

Most people think fighting back is a stupid idea, but if the teachers aren't doing anything, and you don't want to get the police involved, you're going to get beat up regardless. So in theory, you don't exactly have anything to lose. Bullies aren't stupid, they know who their best victims are. By fighting back, you go to the other side of the bridge.

tl;dr - Tell teachers, if they don't do anything either get police involved or fight back.
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Old 01/15/2012, 05:57 PM   #12
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I tried to edit my above post right after I posted it twice, but heres the rest of my comment. Lol

Join a team sport, because if you're in a big enough group bullies won't mess with you as much, i recommend track or Cross country, (the endurance will come with time, i lost 50 lbs when i joined) since the meat heads (AKA bullies) tend to gravitate towards wrestling and ball sports. Don't pick a fight you can't win, and don't become a bully yourself
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Old 01/15/2012, 07:12 PM   #13
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I was teased mercilessly all the way through Elementary and Middle schools. Finally, in 7th grade, I don't know what happened to me. I snapped. In the middle of gym class. Some of the guys teasing me were sticking their floor-hockey sticks up my gym shorts. Completely behind the teachers' backs. I was playing goalie at the time. Y'know, big sticks. Couldn't take it anymore. I attacked them with the goalie stick. Cut one of them on his middle finger.

They never touched me after that. Never spoke to me again. Which was exactly what I wanted.

Now, I don't recommend attacking everybody that puts you down. You'll soon end up a juvenile delinquent. But standing up for yourself, both in front of teachers and behind their backs, will do wonders for your social standing in school.

And it eventually goes away. High school was when it finally went away for me. With 4500 kids and virtually everybody taking an AP class, there just isn't time for the bull.
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Old 01/15/2012, 09:10 PM   #14
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To be honest: Ignore it. Bullies will be bullies, and it'll come back around to them later in life. Meanwhile, your life will only get better and you'll have thicker skin because of it.
This can actually be a pretty dangerous attitude to have, depending on the type of bullying in question. Minor teasing or whatever, sure, just shrug it off, but there've been cases of kids committing suicide because they were relentlessly and brutally bullied and had no other recourse than to try and ignore it (teachers wouldn't get involved, etc). If I'm reading the OP right, then it's more of the latter than the former, especially with all the physical violence involved.

Bullying's a serious problem. If violence is routinely involved, then someone clearly needs to step in, and if teachers refuse to do anything about it, then it sounds like legal action should be involved.
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Old 01/19/2012, 07:05 AM   #15
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Once you get to 11th/12th grade and definitely to College/ University PSYCHICAL Bullying Basically ends. "Use Common sense before self defense and never be abusive or offensive". What doesn't end is favoritism , underhanded things from your workplace. Unless you are the best period. Even with that favoritism because of any given item is out there.

meaning you can defend yourself - don't start the fight and only do enough to disable the people, and what is necessary to protect yourself. Fighting back can be turned around on you and make yourself in trouble. If you purely defend yourself in defensive strategies the people bullying you will go for someone weaker.

Bullies usually are bullies because they feel the need to have power or to have popularity over someone else who isn't in the "group".

Stay to pokemon people we look after each other :)
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Old 01/19/2012, 03:44 PM   #16
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Loop around and troll the bullies to death. Only attempt if you are a successful troll.

That's my method when people try to bully me.

anddd everyone already gave the advice i would give so yeah.
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Old 01/20/2012, 01:17 PM   #17
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Well... if its physical violence (and your school's admins will disagree) then start taking a martial art. Because honestly, you have a right to defend yourself. Just don't get cocky because you're in it, but the next time they come up to punch you in the face and you block it and take the ready stance they will usually back down.
No...this is stupid advice for the most part, it takes more than a couple classes down at the local Y to feel confortable in a fight.
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Old 01/20/2012, 07:43 PM   #18
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No...this is stupid advice for the most part, it takes more than a couple classes down at the local Y to feel confortable in a fight.
Who said anything about taking classes at the Y, and who said 1 or 2 classes would make someone able to defend themselves. It's a long process, but there are benefits. Anyone who is "comfortable" in a fight is probably either about to lose badly, or is fighting in a situation where they are the aggressor. Having the ability and the correct mentality will take you a long way in life as well. Think about things before you call someone out for having real life experience that you consider stupid advice.
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Old 01/20/2012, 11:56 PM   #19
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I fully agree years of experience is a much different scenerio and if you have training I have a lot of respect for that. The guys I have trained with always have been a good group of guys. But giving the advice to take up a martial art to prevent bullying rarely works mainly because the dediction level simply isn't their or they aren't willing to put the time in.

I've come to the point where I realize you don't know anything until you realize you know nothing. Most people who have the years of experience don't go around starting fights. After several years of training I will agree relaxed is a bad work, perhaps calm is a better one. I don't go around looking for fights, and will most certianly do everything to talk my way out of 1 but if I have no choice I will defend myself.

If you have training, than my comment was to far over the line but all to often (and if you have training you know this as well) people think that they are better than they really are starting out and don't realize how much time/effort it takes to be able to defend ones self.
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Old 01/21/2012, 06:45 AM   #20
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Bullying and School can be hard though there were times i felt like "I had no friends".
Like I said you are pretty lucky Pokemon didn't come out for me until 8th grade. You got us pokemon people. We stick together :D
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Old 01/24/2012, 09:15 AM   #21
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Also you can....

you know, pretty much all of these could work. Don't get me wrong, I am not saying that all of these are the greatest ideas ever. But, some people didn't exactly say this, I'm just trying to put this out there. If you got friends, hang out with them. If you don't have friends, then this isn't a good answer for you. If you do be with them the most you can, if you do then maybe since your with other people they won't pick on you. Or, if they do, you and your friends should stand up for each other. If this bullying keeps on happening, you MUST tell an adult.(Teacher, parent, councilor, cop, ect.) You have to tell someone who will help you.




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Old 01/27/2012, 02:43 PM   #22
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just an updated the person punched me in the face todsay and i punched him back and got suspended for five days and im not in trouble because my dad was proud of me for sicking up for myself thx everyone for the help
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Old 01/28/2012, 03:40 PM   #23
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My vote would be for you to practice blocking punches and such. If the bullies see that you mean buisness, then they'll leave you alone. I'm talking from experience...
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