Dragons Exalted Scans!

[Prime]

those spots surely go to Altaria, Rayquaza EX, and Giratina EX

[solo59486]

Originally Posted by Politoed

Not sure of this has been acknowledged yet, but there are three cards missing between Durant and Gible, would suggests that there is a chance that a normal Rayquaza could make the cut.

It can't though because we already have over 15 dragon types.

[Charranitar]

Originally Posted by Politoed

Not sure of this has been acknowledged yet, but there are three cards missing between Durant and Gible, would suggests that there is a chance that a normal Rayquaza could make the cut.

It's:

83 - Durant
84 - Altaria
85 - Rayquaza EX
86 - Gible

[solo59486]

If you look at the background of each card almost all of them are at N's castle or the PokemonLeague.

[eriknance]

Originally Posted by solo59486

If you look at the background of each card almost all of them are at N's castle or the PokemonLeague.

^Definitely one of the coolest things about this set. Reminds me of Delta Species and how the Holon Tower was in the background of most the cards.

[TheDarkTwins]

The only gripe I've got with this set is the fact that if you are going to have a set with 128 cards, you need to have more than 6 trainers/energy. You need to have 12+. They need desperately to have a Legend Maker/Unseen Forces type trainer set, where there is an insane amount of them, and nearly all are playable. We are about to have a significant drop in the amount of usable trainers, and that's not really a good thing.

Drew

[Shino Bug Master]

The reason Rayquaza is so good is because it is the absolute best counter to Rayquaza ex. Rayquaza ex hates to trade itself for regular Rayquaza's because it is losing prizes in the process. Now with it only being shiny, the lack of Rayquaza's will make Rayquaza ex a lot harder to deal with for every deck that isn't Garchomp/Altaria, meaning that the deck can completely gear itself to beating that deck with its techs, rather than every deck that can afford a few copies of Rayquaza. It also gave a lot of decks a way to soften upDragon decks, or deal with Garchomp Altaria by KOing their Altarias/Swablus/Gibles/Babites early on. Everything in that deck apart from Emolga/Garchomp and tech are OHKO'd by his first attack.

Really hope they release the normal one sooner than later

[OFWGKTA RULEZ]

Troll and Toad just updated their inventory to include the entire set's singles, SR Rayquaza is $40.

[eriknance]

Originally Posted by TheDarkTwins

The only gripe I've got with this set is the fact that if you are going to have a set with 128 cards, you need to have more than 6 trainers/energy. You need to have 12+. They need desperately to have a Legend Maker/Unseen Forces type trainer set, where there is an insane amount of them, and nearly all are playable. We are about to have a significant drop in the amount of usable trainers, and that's not really a good thing.

Drew

^Wholeheartedly agree with this. More trainers/energy helps players develop new combos for the "trainer drought" we're getting ready to have. In addition to this though, it makes PreReleases more fun. Dark Explorers was one of the funnest PreReleases I ever went to, mainly because of the presence of Juniper, N, and Ultra Ball. With the exception of Emolga, Dragons has hardly anything to help you get things in play. Yes, Roserade and Milotic are there, but they'll be very hard to get in play.

One thing I will say, however, is that recent sets have had more focus and theme than ever before. Next Destinies gave us EXs, Dark Explorers focused on Dark Pokemon, Dragons has a brand new type. Much better than the HGSS sets and the beginning of B&W, which offered very few playable, new mechanics (LEGEND cards were cool, but that's about it). Given that, I still miss the occasional flood of playable Stadiums, Trainers, etc.

[QD4U]

Originally Posted by Shino Bug Master

The reason Rayquaza is so good is because it is the absolute best counter to Rayquaza ex. Rayquaza ex hates to trade itself for regular Rayquaza's because it is losing prizes in the process. Now with it only being shiny, the lack of Rayquaza's will make Rayquaza ex a lot harder to deal with for every deck that isn't Garchomp/Altaria, meaning that the deck can completely gear itself to beating that deck with its techs, rather than every deck that can afford a few copies of Rayquaza. It also gave a lot of decks a way to soften upDragon decks, or deal with Garchomp Altaria by KOing their Altarias/Swablus/Gibles/Babites early on. Everything in that deck apart from Emolga/Garchomp and tech are OHKO'd by his first attack.

Really hope they release the normal one sooner than later

Uhm...no? Rayquaza EX is bad. Or, to be a lil more politically correct, not as good as people think it is.
The real reason Rayquaza is so good is because it one-shots Tynamos, Swablus, Altarias, Gibles, Gabites for 1 single energy. That is unheard of.

[eriknance]

Originally Posted by OFWGKTA RULEZ

Troll and Toad just updated their inventory to include the entire set's singles, SR Rayquaza is $40.

And is also not available.

[OFWGKTA RULEZ]

Originally Posted by eriknance

And is also not available.

Yeah, but its the first price I've seen from an online retailer, so it at least worth a mention.

[Furn]

Originally Posted by solo59486

If you look at the background of each card almost all of them are at N's castle or the PokemonLeague.

They've been doing that since Next Destinies.

[Shino Bug Master]

Originally Posted by QD4U

Uhm...no? Rayquaza EX is bad. Or, to be a lil more politically correct, not as good as people think it is.
The real reason Rayquaza is so good is because it one-shots Tynamos, Swablus, Altarias, Gibles, Gabites for 1 single energy. That is unheard of.

And just how bad is Rayquaa ex in a metagame where he can OHKO anythign and only be one shotted back by itself or a Stage 2 with 2+ energy? Rayquaza ex was never bad, he was just severally over hyped on the gym. I'm just saying he is the next Gengar Prime, way over hyped, not a metagame distroying card, but good in certain decks. He was always limited by the regular Rayquaza. And i listed all that as stregnths as well.

[solo59486]

Originally Posted by Furn

They've been doing that since Next Destinies.

I know but next destinies was set in castelia city this set isn't. I was just pointing that out to everybody. Haha you joined this website on my birthday.

[ssjoddish]

Originally Posted by QD4U

Uhm...no? Rayquaza EX is bad. Or, to be a lil more politically correct, not as good as people think it is.
The real reason Rayquaza is so good is because it one-shots Tynamos, Swablus, Altarias, Gibles, Gabites for 1 single energy. That is unheard of.

Yeah but im pretty sure normal rayquaza cant one shot every ex in the format pretty easily in decks that have a decent energy acceleration. Normal rayquaza is a great card though i will admit that and i think they will both break the format.... together

p.s. rayquaza normal also one shots deinos and zweilous from dragons exalted

[QD4U]

Originally Posted by Shino Bug Master

And just how bad is Rayquaa ex in a metagame where he can OHKO anythign and only be one shotted back by itself or a Stage 2 with 2+ energy? Rayquaza ex was never bad, he was just severally over hyped on the gym. I'm just saying he is the next Gengar Prime, way over hyped, not a metagame distroying card, but good in certain decks. He was always limited by the regular Rayquaza. And i listed all that as stregnths as well.

While rayquaza ex seems really strong on paper, in reality getting 4 energy on him (and one of those has to be an awkward type; ie Fire for eelektrik and Lightning for Emboar) is hard and I don't think you can pull it of very often. rayquaza and garchomp keeps him in check as well. maybe in a different format he could do well. but not in this.

obviously he will still see play, because people wanna try him out. but I think they will realize soon that he isn't that great at all.

[ssjoddish]

Originally Posted by QD4U

While rayquaza ex seems really strong on paper, in reality getting 4 energy on him (and one of those has to be an awkward type; ie Fire for eelektrik and Lightning for Emboar) is hard and I don't think you can pull it of very often. rayquaza and garchomp keeps him in check as well. maybe in a different format he could do well. but not in this.

obviously he will still see play, because people wanna try him out. but I think they will realize soon that he isn't that great at all.

well 3 eels or 2 eels and a energy switch and rayquaza is doing 180 damage and looking at how the eels deck plays that is not hard at all. Then if you run him with emboar you can do unlimited damage. Its like your saying magnezone wasnt good and i know one thing that put magnezone over the top was the power but rayquaza is a basic with 170 hp and 1 retreat makes it even better. Ill admit garchomp and hydregon keep it in check but against every other deck it is a vital threat because they cant one shot it but you can one shot them. I think it will be one of the next best cards in format. Again look at magnezone being almost the best card in format adn valued at 60 dollars and rayquaza does practicallly the same thing but its discard and it does 60 instead

[QD4U]

you can't compare magnezone with rayquaza. magnezone has one of the best abilities (or pokepower) in the game. also its attack can use any energy on the field. it is very different from rayquaza ex

[ssjoddish]

Originally Posted by QD4U

you can't compare magnezone with rayquaza. magnezone has one of the best abilities (or pokepower) in the game. also its attack can use any energy on the field. it is very different from rayquaza ex

but they both have similar attacks which is what we are debating about and in most ways rayquazas attack was better and a deck based off of magnezone as the main attacker won worlds so i believe i can compare it. 3 energies for magnezone was childs play to get rid of so why not on rayquaza? you might say that magnezone could lost burn from anywhere but rayquaza is a basic so it is just as easy

[espeon200]

I hadn't realized that Mew EX can use your opponent's Pokemon's attacks as well as your own. That's pretty awesome. Can't wait to see what kinds of decks people come up with...

[Thatguy99]

There is a good chance we will get rayquaza because giratina EX comes after garchomp (garchomp 91- Dieno 93), then there will be Altaria, reg rayquaza, rayquaza EX.

[Gliscor]

Originally Posted by Thatguy99

There is a good chance we will get rayquaza because giratina EX comes after garchomp (garchomp 91- Dieno 93), then there will be Altaria, reg rayquaza, rayquaza EX.

What?

Durant is 83, and Altaria is 84. Since Gible is 86, there is one space between Altaria and Gible. Rayquaza-EX is confirmed to be 85, so there's no room for regular Rayquaza.

[Charranitar]

Originally Posted by Thatguy99

There is a good chance we will get rayquaza because giratina EX comes after garchomp (garchomp 91- Dieno 93), then there will be Altaria, reg rayquaza, rayquaza EX.

No chance.

83 - Durant (Metal)
84 - Altaria
85 - Rayquaza EX
86 - Gible
87 - Gible
88 - Gabite
89 - Gabite
90 - Garchomp
91 - Garchomp
92 - Giratina EX
93 - Deino
94 - Deino
95 - Zweilous
96 - Zweilous
97 - Hydreigon
98 - Hydreigon
99 - Aipom (Colorless)

[SpTrainer]

Shiny Rayray is $50 on T&T. It'll probably be $100+ by tomorrow T_T