'Dragon Vault' box announced

[immewnity]

Thanks to Card Team for the information!

All that is known is the name and a release date of mid-October.

[solo59486]

hopefully it will have the little rayquaza in it.

[SpTrainer]

Originally Posted by solo59486

hopefully it will have the little rayquaza in it.

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[immewnity]

I'm guessing Dragon Selection cards in a Pikachu World Collection-type box.

[Card Team]

Thats the most prominent thing at the minute thats screaming out to be released in the english tcg.

[Pokeplayer101]

Originally Posted by immewnity

I'm guessing Dragon Selection cards in a Pikachu World Collection-type box.

Maybe the US will add Rayquaza in Dragon Selection.

[dragunight]

Originally Posted by Pokeplayer101

Maybe the US will add Rayquaza in Dragon Selection.

rayquaza is originally from dragon selection.

[Lunar Wing]

To all of you saying "hopefully this will have Rayquaza" take a look at the date. This is said to be released October 15, the day after Fall Regionals are over. Smart move by Pokemon once again by releasing the way to decrease expensive cards one day too late. It's the same with these new EX tins that are being released literally the last day of Battle Roads. If you wanted to be excited for this then go ahead, but as how I see it it's just another failure for Pokemon to release product before a useful date.

[immewnity]

Originally Posted by Lunar Wing

To all of you saying "hopefully this will have Rayquaza" take a look at the date. This is said to be released October 15, the day after Fall Regionals are over. Smart move by Pokemon once again by releasing the way to decrease expensive cards one day too late. It's the same with these new EX tins that are being released literally the last day of Battle Roads. If you wanted to be excited for this then go ahead, but as how I see it it's just another failure for Pokemon to release product before a useful date.

October 15 is probably just an approximate date, though; very rarely do these type of boxes get released on their release date.

[Lunar Wing]

Originally Posted by immewnity

October 15 is probably just an approximate date, though; very rarely do these type of boxes get released on their release date.

If this does happen to be released before Fall Regionals AND it has Rayquaza in it then good move by Pokemon. As it stands now I agree with their motives but I'm upset with their timing.

[Thatguy99]

At my regionals they had the forces of nature box b4 it came out. It's possible we could get this box b4 regionals.

[PokePop]

Originally Posted by dragunight

rayquaza is originally from dragon selection.

I don't know. I have the Rayquaza from Dragon Selection, and it doesn't have the same attacks as the Shiny Ray.

[psychup2034]

Originally Posted by Lunar Wing

If this does happen to be released before Fall Regionals AND it has Rayquaza in it then good move by Pokemon. As it stands now I agree with their motives but I'm upset with their timing.

I don't see what's wrong with their timing. Sure, we all want cheap cards, but Shiny Rayquaza is probably driving up pack sales like crazy (as evidenced by the attendance spike at prereleases). Revenue from healthy pack sales keeps organized play funded. That's important too.

If Shiny Rayquaza increases overall pack sales by 2-3% (which I'm confident it has), I wouldn't mind the $110 I spent to get 2 Rayquazas to play with for Fall Battle Roads and Regionals. I know everyone, including myself, is a bit selfish and want cards to be as cheap as possible. However, there's also a flip side to think about.

[espeon200]

Originally Posted by PokePop

I don't know. I have the Rayquaza from Dragon Selection, and it doesn't have the same attacks as the Shiny Ray.

Are you sure, PokePop? I just looked up the scan of the Rayquaza from Dragon Selection and while I couldn't read the japanese text, the energy requirements and base damage numbers for its attacks match.

[NoDice]

The DS Ray and the DRX Ray are the same- just double checked via Pokebeach.

Also, I think Shiny Rayquaza will still keep pack sales up and be a highly sought after card regardless of whether theres a normal version or not, at least with the PTCGs target audience and collectors alike.

[LOLZ]

Originally Posted by immewnity

October 15 is probably just an approximate date, though; very rarely do these type of boxes get released on their release date.

If Pokemon says the release date is October 15th, the release date is October 15th.

I know what readers are thinking...

If a store puts Dragon Vault on sale before the release date of October 15th or more specifcally before Autumn regionals, the cards released are not legal because they have not been offically released yet.

Players, Please don't test play assuming Dragon Vault will be legal.

[King Piplup]

Originally Posted by LOLZ

If Pokemon says the release date is October 15th, the release date is October 15th.

I know what readers are thinking...

If a store puts Dragon Vault on sale before the release date of October 15th or more specifcally before Autumn regionals, the cards released are not legal because they have not been offically released yet.

Players, Please don't test play assuming Dragon Vault will be legal.

Note-The distributors said its released October 15th, not Pokemon.

If Rayquaza is in the box and somebody gets it pre-release, it IS legal according to the floor rules.

[immewnity]

Originally Posted by King Piplup

Note-The distributors said its released October 15th, not Pokemon.

If Rayquaza is in the box and somebody gets it pre-release, it IS legal according to the floor rules.

Depends. If it's a black star promo, yes. If it's a separate set, no, unless the checklist says otherwise.

[LOLZ]

Originally Posted by King Piplup

Note-The distributors said its released October 15th, not Pokemon.

If Rayquaza is in the box and somebody gets it pre-release, it IS legal according to the floor rules.

I never said it wasn't legal. I said the set wasn't legal, my post was more directed towards the set as a whole and to those who wanted to use First ticket (assuming it is in Dragon Vault) or any other non-reprinted card in Dragon Vault

[signofzeta]

It's probably released on the 17th if anything. Aren't all pokemon products released on Wednesdays in the US?

[King Piplup]

Originally Posted by immewnity

Depends. If it's a black star promo, yes. If it's a separate set, no, unless the checklist says otherwise.

Actually, Section 15.5. of the Floor Rules leads me to believe it will be legal whether or not it is a Black Star Promo

15.5. Unreleased Cards
From time to time, players will acquire cards from a new set prior to its regular release date, usually via a Prerelease. These cards may not be used in sanctioned tournaments until the regular release date of the set, as outlined in Section 16, with one exception. Cards that are already tournament legal which have been reprinted in an unreleased set may be used as long they are easily identifiable as a reprinted card. This is typically only an issue when a reprinted card receives new art, though other factors may create a similar issue. These cards should always be played with the most recent wording of the tournament-legal version of the card.

In the event the cards in this "Dragon Vault" box contain a Rayquaza (or other reprint) with a different set symbol, I would be inclined to believe that would be refered to as a new "set" as referred to in the first line.


But, I almost expect a reprint of Chomp/Hydreigon lines or something in these.

However, this line makes me wonder...

We can provide a international exclusive in association with Pokecollection, the Pokemon Dragon Vault Box, will be released later this year, with a whole new direction to the ordinary box releases.

Box containing 5 card packs similar to a mini set, as it was in Japan? Could be. I'd laugh so hard if this is the case and Rayquaza was made a "Secret Rare" there too.

[PokePop]

Originally Posted by espeon200

Are you sure, PokePop? I just looked up the scan of the Rayquaza from Dragon Selection and while I couldn't read the japanese text, the energy requirements and base damage numbers for its attacks match.

Well, you got a "thanks" from Exobyte, so I guess that's that!

[immewnity]

Originally Posted by King Piplup

Actually, Section 15.5. of the Floor Rules leads me to believe it will be legal whether or not it is a Black Star Promo


In the event the cards in this "Dragon Vault" box contain a Rayquaza (or other reprint) with a different set symbol, I would be inclined to believe that would be refered to as a new "set" as referred to in the first line.


But, I almost expect a reprint of Chomp/Hydreigon lines or something in these.

However, this line makes me wonder...


Box containing 5 card packs similar to a mini set, as it was in Japan? Could be. I'd laugh so hard if this is the case and Rayquaza was made a "Secret Rare" there too.

Ah, sorry, I was confusing the card to the DS set in general.

Anyways, I'm thinking that we'll learn more about this tomorrow on the new Pokemon.com/EX site.

[CeNturist]

I don't see why this is a big deal, aren't we getting Rayquaza after Regionals regardless of this? If anything the box will get pushed back, not moved forward. Is it even confirmed Rayquaza is in this?

[King Piplup]

Originally Posted by CeNturist

I don't see why this is a big deal, aren't we getting Rayquaza after Regionals regardless of this? If anything the box will get pushed back, not moved forward. Is it even confirmed Rayquaza is in this?

There is no guarantee Dragon Selection Rayquaza will ever see an English print. It is not confirmed that Rayquaza is in here.


I actually change my opinion. It'll be the promo FA Rayquaza and Giratinas.