Gym Challenge Deck --- Pluminater, or his Evil Twin Brother?

[rroaryh]

I have two versions of Plume I am considering, please help me narrow it down, and improve them as they stand!

4 Oddish
3 Gloosm
4 VEX
2 Belossom
4 Wurmple

4 Rare Candy
2 Scott
2 Wally
3 BF
3 TV Reporter
2 Steven
2 Copycat
2 VS Seeker
2 Switch
1 Pokemon Retriever
2 Crystal Shard
1 Great Ball

17 Grass Energy

OR

4 Vileplume ex
1 Bellossom
3 Gloom
4 Oddish
4 Dunsparce
2 Horsea
1 Seadra
2 Kingdra

3 Copycat
3 Steven
2 Crystal Shard
2 Wally
4 Rare Candy
2 Switch
1 Scott
1 VS Seeker
2 BF
2 LPS

4 Multi
13 Grass

PLEASE HELP ME OUT, TOURNEY THIS WEEKEND

[The Gorn]

I played Vileplume EX at Regionals and got torn up by Psychic (played 3 Gardy and 1 Dark Hypno out of my 6 games, OUCH).

That Kingdra looks pretty good to me! LOL

But I would make these changes to start with...

-1 Vile EX
+1 Bellossom
-1 Rare Candy
+1 Pokemon Retriever

I think you need to get Celio's in here. Personally, I don't like the 4 Stadiums and I'm not a fan of Wally's in this deck.

For me, here's what I'd do...

-2 LPS
-1 Scott
-2 Wally's
-1 VS Seeker
-1 Grass (now you have an EXTRA Shiny Grass, LOL)

+4 Celio's (MUST find that Kingdra and Bellossom, and they're both Bench-dwellers, so Wally's won't help)
+2 Professor Oak's Research (you've only got 6 draw cards, you need hand refreshment)


But I had a horrible Regional, so you might want to not listen to me.

(One more thing... just because the Kingdra is so important, I might do only 3 Celio's and put in another Seadra for a 2-2-2 line for stability.)

[Shiloh Phoenix]

Hey, Gorn, didn't you go to south plains? THAT'S why you got torn up by gardy. the one with bellossom is better, btw.

[The Gorn]

No, I wasn't at South Plains. Bunch of Gardy there too? (I was in Orlando)

Vileplume EX with Bellossom is better? I agree! I'm suggesting he add a 2nd.

[rroaryh]

hmm well at my regional I got destroyed but it was mostly due to weakness so I really need Kingdra. Wally is for searching for the Vileplume to get him out faster ... but I see your point. LPS is almost a must. most of my matched I found Battle Frontier useless and I was desperatly in need for 10+ HP .... hmmm

[rroaryh]

Please .... I Need Help With This Deck For Saturday!

[rroaryh]

oh well .... grass is dead to you people

[tenchi]

i've been thinking about 'plume ex, why not add dark slowking? (if it's been done, i have seen it) you can really lockdown their trainers this way, and hes psychic but not weak to it.

i could post a list later if need be. i also think your first list could use magcargo. :/

[Metal Master]

You could make the new 4 Corners Deck!!! Lol. Nah, you couldn't. Because this deck focuses on Vile/Bell so much, you don't have a lot of room. If you reduce that line, you could add Slowking, and definitely Magcargo. Then you are set.

[rroaryh]

if i put in slowking, i have to take out the BF though ....

[DaCo]

3 x Vex
2 x Bellossom
2 x gloom
4 x oddish
2 x cargo
2 x slugma
4 x dunsparce
1 x kingdra
1 x horsea

4 x stevens
3 x celios
3 x RC
3 x tv rep.
2 x swoop!
2 x BF
1 x scott
1x copycat
1 x admin
1 x shard
1x charm
1 x warp point
1x pow

3 x boost
1 x scramble
1 x heal
10 grass

[Ice'Cold]

If your worried about gardy how about some multi's and and maybe some Deoxys? The defense mode EX also works great against muk ex decks.

[rroaryh]

hmm the deoxys sounds interesting ....

[Ice'Cold]

I found that the defense mode from deoxys and the other ex from emerald work great together if you play mutli, because defense only needs 1 psy and the other one is all colorless. A nice little splashable combo.

[tenchi]

Originally Posted by rroaryh

if i put in slowking, i have to take out the BF though ....

ya, but you could deny them much more than just a few evolved powers...plus you can use pidgeot yourself. ^_^

[rroaryh]

Alright so we're forming a deck list here

4 Oddish
3 Gloom
3 Vileplume ex (or 4?)
2 Bellossom
1 Defense Deoxys ex
2 Slowpoke
2 Dark SLowking
4 Dunsparce

3 LPS
1 Scott
3 Rare Candy (Or 4?)
2 Pokemon Retriever
2 Shard
3 Celio
1 VS seeker
3 Steven
3 Copycat



11 Grass
2 Boost
2 Multi