Broken Deoxys! Nearly Invinsible!

Jigglychu · 01/15/2006, 07:22 PM

I dont know if I'm the first one to notice this, but...

Deoxys (Defense) - 80 HP [M]
Delta Species

Poke-Power: Form Change
Once during your turn (before you attack), you may search your deck for another Deoxys and switch it with Deoxys. (Any cards attached to Deoxys, damage counters, Special Conditions, and effects on it are now on the new Pokemon.) If you do, put Deoxys on top of your deck. Shuffle your deck afterwards. You can't use more than one Form Change Poke-Power each turn.

[MC] Delta Reduction - 30: During your opponent's next turn, all damage done to Deoxys is reduced by 30.

Weakness: Psychic
Retreat Cost: [CC]

This deoxys is the one from holon phantom, the METAL one. Get it? 4 metal energy... Attack... Prevent 70 damage every turn!!!!!! The only problem is getting the energy attached. Maybe adding this to a GardMie deck, with Energy Root.

zapdos ex · 01/15/2006, 07:30 PM

attacks that put on damage counters instead of damage can kill it. (ie medi pure power.)

Jigglychu · 01/15/2006, 07:35 PM

..................Oh.......................
Heh Heh, I knew that.(lying)
ON TOPIC: The solution? Holon NRG water! I'm making a deck for this cardwhen it comes out? (When is Holon Phantom coming out, anyway?)

zapdos ex · 01/15/2006, 07:38 PM

any way, its a wall, team ZRE will have a hard time with -70.

**sdrawkcab** · 01/15/2006, 11:26 PM

...theres a deoxys in DS?

Flaming_Spinach · 01/15/2006, 11:57 PM

What about Scizor-ex? HE can reduce damage by 60, has more HP, and has better attacks. Why not just use him?

Good card, but not as good as something that's already around.

*charking* · 01/16/2006, 12:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zapdos ex

any way, its a wall, team ZRE will have a hard time with -70.

Tech in FR/LG Electrode when this Deoxys comes out.

*Myn_donos* · 01/16/2006, 03:56 AM

hehehehe, indeed, it will be fun :) and in my mercury, it will be very fun... but ill stick with registeel EX

REgisteel ex- 50 reduction
scizor- 60 reduction
deoxys- 70 reduction

is anyone seeing an eerie trend here besides me?

*Archaic* · 01/16/2006, 05:49 AM

Don't forget Gardevoir EM, which should be in every Mercury style deck worth its salt. Add another 20 healing onto that damage reduction, assuming you can survive the initial attack.

Flaming_Spinach, there's a good reason why this is considered possibily better. It's a basic, and it's not an ex. Add in that it's not vulnerable to Fire, unlike Scizor, and so won't be stopped by Arcanine ex...
Of course, in a mirror Mercury, it becomes largely useless, as it's still vulnerable to Psychic.

Shellshock929 · 01/16/2006, 06:33 AM

And that Scizor EX gets hurt by Desert Ruins. Deoxys Defense Metal Does Not. Give it Energy Root annd you'll have more HP. You wont wanna switch to another Deoxys since the other ones aren't great.

*Professor_Chris* · 01/16/2006, 06:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blastoise-shellsurprise

And that Scizor EX gets hurt by Desert Ruins. Deoxys Defense Metal Does Not. Give it Energy Root annd you'll have more HP. You wont wanna switch to another Deoxys since the other ones aren't great.

Can use Life Herb and Sitrus Berry too. :3 It just seems like an all around better tank than Scizor. Not so much attacker, though.

ryanvergel · 01/16/2006, 07:07 AM

Crappy healix, here we come!

shiftrymaster68 · 01/16/2006, 07:24 AM

Seriously, if everyone is flipping over this, why didn't we all go mad when Dark Steelix came out? 110 HP and the ability to utilize Dark AND Metal Energy while getting them back is sooo much better than this Deoxys. It can come in handy as a nice staller during 2-3 turn, but nothing special IMO.

blazekid · 01/16/2006, 07:37 AM

make it pmd

blazekid · 01/16/2006, 07:38 AM

make it pmd

ryanvergel · 01/16/2006, 07:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shiftrymaster68

Seriously, if everyone is flipping over this, why didn't we all go mad when Dark Steelix came out? 110 HP and the ability to utilize Dark AND Metal Energy while getting them back is sooo much better than this Deoxys. It can come in handy as a nice staller during 2-3 turn, but nothing special IMO.

My sentiment exactly.
Sorry fellas, but 30 damage won't cut it. Not to mention if it goes down, it's taking a root, 4 metal, a psychic, and itself with it, that's pretty harsh after that.

If it could boost damage, it might be decent, maybe combine it with some damage boosting pokemon? Isn't there a gyarados that adds +10 to all DS pokemon? Maybe 1-3 gyarados and 4 metals, and a lot of heal and you're set.

*Professor_Chris* · 01/16/2006, 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ryanvergel

My sentiment exactly.
Sorry fellas, but 30 damage won't cut it. Not to mention if it goes down, it's taking a root, 4 metal, a psychic, and itself with it, that's pretty harsh after that.

If it could boost damage, it might be decent, maybe combine it with some damage boosting pokemon? Isn't there a gyarados that adds +10 to all DS pokemon? Maybe 1-3 gyarados and 4 metals, and a lot of heal and you're set.

You can't deny he's a better tank though. With 4 Metal and Sitrus Berry he's practically reducing 100 damage. I do agree the mediocre damage for his attack keeps him from being great. Gyrados might work, but it seems like it might be hard to fit into Mercury, which is really the only place I can see Deoxys being played, it's either that or with Metagross which would be even more difficult to fit Gyrados in, imo.

ryanvergel · 01/16/2006, 10:27 AM

2/1/2 gardy=5
2/2 gyarados=4
2/2 or 1/1 starmie=4
2 deoxys=2
+4 starters
That's 19 pokemon right there. You can boost it up to 3/2/3 gardy for 22 pokemon. Doesn't seem bad at all to me.

Without gyarados, 30 damage simply won't cut it. I like the idea of loading it with 4 metal, and an energy root, and going to town doing 50 a turn and reducing 70, and healing a possible 20 a turn with EM gardy. Looks hotz.
100hp, -70 a turn, and healing 20? gosu!

ZAKtheGeek · 01/16/2006, 11:33 AM

Tyranitar ex laughs at you.

Too bad it's not the most viable thing in the world...

Professor Elm · 01/16/2006, 11:52 AM

Omg!
Deoxys+ Energy Root= 100 HP+ 4 Metal+ Its attack (-30)+ Gardy (EM)= PURE PWNAGE!
Team ZRE is gonna have to tech in those Electrode (FRLG) in order to beat this monster.
EDIT: And maybe even a tech line of Ludi (Happy Dance) for even more fun. BUT 30 damage a turn is nothing and toxic is gonna kill this guy (never mind I forgot about Gardy EM). But it would be fun to make a deck out of.

ZAKtheGeek · 01/16/2006, 11:56 AM

Oh, right, it's not part psychic...

Okay, tyranitar doesn't laugh at you quite as much.

zapdos ex · 01/16/2006, 01:07 PM

yo! there an electrode in FRGL beside electrode ex?!?!? i thought it was in HL.

ryanvergel · 01/16/2006, 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Professor Elm

Omg!
Deoxys+ Energy Root= 100 HP+ 4 Metal+ Its attack (-30)+ Gardy (EM)= PURE PWNAGE!
Team ZRE is gonna have to tech in those Electrode (FRLG) in order to beat this monster.
EDIT: And maybe even a tech line of Ludi (Happy Dance) for even more fun. BUT 30 damage a turn is nothing and toxic is gonna kill this guy (never mind I forgot about Gardy EM). But it would be fun to make a deck out of.

Mercury also runs water energy and Holon WP, so toxic won't even be an issue.

With the setup I provided, the deoxys will look like this:

80-100hp
-60 damage
possible 20 heal a turn
30-50 damage a turn

ideally, you have a root, 1 water, 1 psychic, 1 holon wp, and 3-4 metal attached. This means you have 100hp, -40 initial damage, no effects, no retreat, and with an EM gardy benched, you get a potion a turn, and your attack does -30 also. Combined with 1-2 gyarados, they're permanent strength charms, so you should be hitting for 40-50 a turn, and reducing ~90 a turn(with gardevoir).

that's a GK sir.

zapdos ex · 01/16/2006, 02:27 PM

still dunno about there being a FRGL electrode. and i'm the founder of team ZRE. >_<

Professor Elm · 01/16/2006, 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zapdos ex

yo! there an electrode in FRGL beside electrode ex?!?!? i thought it was in HL.

My bad you are right.

01/15/2006, 11:26 PM	#5
sdrawkcab Forum Moderator Images: 4	...theres a deoxys in DS? __________________ ~adanac morf ekiM m'I~ Plasma Storm and Plasma Freeze TCGO Codes For Sale Here

01/16/2006, 06:33 AM	#10
Shellshock929 Avatar Creator Images: 32	And that Scizor EX gets hurt by Desert Ruins. Deoxys Defense Metal Does Not. Give it Energy Root annd you'll have more HP. You wont wanna switch to another Deoxys since the other ones aren't great. __________________ Back at full force. TEAM ROCKET

01/16/2006, 07:07 AM	#12
ryanvergel Images: 1	Crappy healix, here we come! __________________ r

01/16/2006, 10:27 AM	#18
ryanvergel Images: 1	2/1/2 gardy=5 2/2 gyarados=4 2/2 or 1/1 starmie=4 2 deoxys=2 +4 starters That's 19 pokemon right there. You can boost it up to 3/2/3 gardy for 22 pokemon. Doesn't seem bad at all to me. Without gyarados, 30 damage simply won't cut it. I like the idea of loading it with 4 metal, and an energy root, and going to town doing 50 a turn and reducing 70, and healing a possible 20 a turn with EM gardy. Looks hotz. 100hp, -70 a turn, and healing 20? gosu! __________________ r

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01/15/2006, 07:22 PM	#1
Jigglychu	Broken Deoxys! Nearly Invinsible! I dont know if I'm the first one to notice this, but... Deoxys (Defense) - 80 HP [M] Delta Species Poke-Power: Form Change Once during your turn (before you attack), you may search your deck for another Deoxys and switch it with Deoxys. (Any cards attached to Deoxys, damage counters, Special Conditions, and effects on it are now on the new Pokemon.) If you do, put Deoxys on top of your deck. Shuffle your deck afterwards. You can't use more than one Form Change Poke-Power each turn. [MC] Delta Reduction - 30: During your opponent's next turn, all damage done to Deoxys is reduced by 30. Weakness: Psychic Retreat Cost: [CC] This deoxys is the one from holon phantom, the METAL one. Get it? 4 metal energy... Attack... Prevent 70 damage every turn!!!!!! The only problem is getting the energy attached. Maybe adding this to a GardMie deck, with Energy Root. __________________ If anyone has Groundbreakers Figures, please send me the information for them. To make sure they are accurate, simply count the stripes and divide by 72. Please include MP, Type, Sculptor, and number of stars for purple attacks. Thanks.

01/15/2006, 07:30 PM	#2
zapdos ex	attacks that put on damage counters instead of damage can kill it. (ie medi pure power.) __________________ Co-Founder of Team SoCal 14- Elites:11-14 Corps ^Leaves you to wonder if i should actually play this game, 'cause i suck at this game 1st at Irvine Gym Challenge! hehe, and number 35 at worlds 2006....with ZRE...hehe.

01/15/2006, 07:35 PM	#3
Jigglychu	..................Oh....................... Heh Heh, I knew that.(lying) ON TOPIC: The solution? Holon NRG water! I'm making a deck for this cardwhen it comes out? (When is Holon Phantom coming out, anyway?) __________________ If anyone has Groundbreakers Figures, please send me the information for them. To make sure they are accurate, simply count the stripes and divide by 72. Please include MP, Type, Sculptor, and number of stars for purple attacks. Thanks.

01/15/2006, 07:38 PM	#4
zapdos ex	any way, its a wall, team ZRE will have a hard time with -70. __________________ Co-Founder of Team SoCal 14- Elites:11-14 Corps ^Leaves you to wonder if i should actually play this game, 'cause i suck at this game 1st at Irvine Gym Challenge! hehe, and number 35 at worlds 2006....with ZRE...hehe.

01/16/2006, 03:56 AM	#8
Myn_donos	hehehehe, indeed, it will be fun :) and in my mercury, it will be very fun... but ill stick with registeel EX REgisteel ex- 50 reduction scizor- 60 reduction deoxys- 70 reduction is anyone seeing an eerie trend here besides me? __________________ "I've never seen a super nova blow up, but if it's anything like my old Chevy nova, it will light up the night sky!"

01/16/2006, 05:49 AM	#9
Archaic	Don't forget Gardevoir EM, which should be in every Mercury style deck worth its salt. Add another 20 healing onto that damage reduction, assuming you can survive the initial attack. Flaming_Spinach, there's a good reason why this is considered possibily better. It's a basic, and it's not an ex. Add in that it's not vulnerable to Fire, unlike Scizor, and so won't be stopped by Arcanine ex... Of course, in a mirror Mercury, it becomes largely useless, as it's still vulnerable to Psychic. __________________ Webmaster, Bulbagarden.net Home of the Bulbapedia - the community-driven Pokémon encyclopedia; and Bulbanews - your community Pokémon newspaper

01/16/2006, 07:37 AM	#14
blazekid	make it pmd __________________ Haves and wants list http://pokegym.net/forums/showthread.php?t=23544 57 Blazekid 1819.51 MA CO US ooh piece of candy ooh piece of candy ooh piece of candy

01/16/2006, 07:38 AM	#15
blazekid	make it pmd __________________ Haves and wants list http://pokegym.net/forums/showthread.php?t=23544 57 Blazekid 1819.51 MA CO US ooh piece of candy ooh piece of candy ooh piece of candy

01/16/2006, 11:33 AM	#19
ZAKtheGeek	Tyranitar ex laughs at you. Too bad it's not the most viable thing in the world... __________________ I'm lost, scared and confused. 11337

01/16/2006, 11:52 AM	#20
Professor Elm	Omg! Deoxys+ Energy Root= 100 HP+ 4 Metal+ Its attack (-30)+ Gardy (EM)= PURE PWNAGE! Team ZRE is gonna have to tech in those Electrode (FRLG) in order to beat this monster. EDIT: And maybe even a tech line of Ludi (Happy Dance) for even more fun. BUT 30 damage a turn is nothing and toxic is gonna kill this guy (never mind I forgot about Gardy EM). But it would be fun to make a deck out of. __________________ My Trade List Team San Antonio "Quality players, not quantity." Last edited by Professor Elm; 01/16/2006 at 11:56 AM.

01/16/2006, 11:56 AM	#21
ZAKtheGeek	Oh, right, it's not part psychic... Okay, tyranitar doesn't laugh at you quite as much. __________________ I'm lost, scared and confused. 11337

01/16/2006, 01:07 PM	#22
zapdos ex	yo! there an electrode in FRGL beside electrode ex?!?!? i thought it was in HL. __________________ Co-Founder of Team SoCal 14- Elites:11-14 Corps ^Leaves you to wonder if i should actually play this game, 'cause i suck at this game 1st at Irvine Gym Challenge! hehe, and number 35 at worlds 2006....with ZRE...hehe.

01/16/2006, 02:27 PM	#24
zapdos ex	still dunno about there being a FRGL electrode. and i'm the founder of team ZRE. >_< __________________ Co-Founder of Team SoCal 14- Elites:11-14 Corps ^Leaves you to wonder if i should actually play this game, 'cause i suck at this game 1st at Irvine Gym Challenge! hehe, and number 35 at worlds 2006....with ZRE...hehe.