ludi-tales

[sebastianlugo]

hey can me help fixing this deck thanks

4 Plusle
3 Lotad
2 Lombre
3 Ludicolo
2 Slugma
2 Magcargo
2 Vulpix
2 Ninetales
1 Jirachi HL

3 Fire nrgy
7 Water nrgy
3 DRE
2 Scramble nrgy

2 Copycat
4 Celio's Network
3 Steven's Avice
1 Ancient Technical Machine (rock)
1 Cristal shard
3 Swoop! Teleporter
3 Desert Ruins
3 Rare Candy
3 Pokemon Reversal

[moza]

- 3 reversals
-1 hl jirachi
- 1 fire energy
+1 copycat
+1 rare candy
+1-1-1 ludicolo(one happy dance for rock-lock matchups)

I think this is an okay fix, but i have no experience with ludicargo, I have just seen a ton of lists.
GL with your deck:)

[sebastianlugo]

thanks but i think the reversal is needed vs ZRE match's

[coolmanderzx]

Originally Posted by sebastianlugo

hey can me help fixing this deck thanks

4 Plusle
3 Lotad
2 Lombre
3 Ludicolo
2 Slugma
2 Magcargo
2 Vulpix
2 Ninetales
1 Jirachi HL

3 Fire nrgy
7 Water nrgy
3 DRE
2 Scramble nrgy

2 Copycat
4 Celio's Network
3 Steven's Avice
1 Ancient Technical Machine (rock)
1 Cristal shard
3 Swoop! Teleporter
3 Desert Ruins
3 Rare Candy
3 Pokemon Reversal

Ok yea Ludicolo SOO COOOLLL!!! Sry had to get that out of the way. ANyways on to the fix. From my playtesting of ludi. Its best if you run Battle frontier in 4's over ruins since you're runnin the ninetales variant and ex's shouldnt pose a prob. Frontier is superior cuz it shuts down set-up engines like pidgeot and shuts down pop. decks like meta-nite, drag-trode, rock-lock to name a few. Take out jirachi HL from what I've seen hes only useful in the beginning and mid tolate game hes jus useless. I suggest addin the Jirachi DX version which is even better when you need a drawin engine plus he can be a good sacrificial KO to help you set up w/ a scramble and Ko afterwards. YOu also need strength charms since the max ludicolo can do is 110 pendin you didnt use DRE to power him up and they have a full bench to. DEcks like queendom if you can't ohko them they will you. so heres my fix:


pokemon:
-1 jirachi HL
+1 jirachi DX

Trainers:
-3 swoops
-1pokemon reversal
-3 Desert Ruins
+4 Battle Frontier
+2 Strength Charms
+1 Pokemon retreiver

energy
-1 Fire energy
+1 DRE

Ludicolo is all about spd and you need to accomplish this asap. And slowing down your opponent with BF will only help to the cause of ludi. But since there has been a rise in the amount of lightin pokemon in the game you mite think of techin in a protective orb to help ludicolo. You also have to be very careful once LM comes out and Giant Stump mite scratch that will be played and that will weaken Ludicolo's atk power by at least 40 dmg. Good Luck with ludicolo

[sebastianlugo]

thanks for the advice coolmanderzx

[gunycabj]

aiaiai q duro q sos lugo:

-1 Jirachi HL
-3 Reversals
-1 Swoop
+2 Admin
+3 DR
-3 Fire
+3 Multi

[sebastianlugo]

???

please only post good player's non gunycabj :P that play's a liabity deck

[steelixEX]

ta bien...gunter vs no podes desir nada de los mazos ludicolo q pusiste para jugar el nacional raidon y wuising...no descartemos q saliste 19 en el nac y 21 en el torneo de mar del plata q to2 eran maderas...asi q lugo segui con el spining tail y gunter...emmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...retirate de las cartas

[Thunderbolt]

-4 Plusle
-3 Lotad
-2 Lombre
-3 Ludicolo
-2 Slugma
-2 Magcargo
-2 Vulpix
-2 Ninetales
-1 Jirachi HL

-3 Fire nrgy
-7 Water nrgy
-3 DRE
-2 Scramble nrgy

-2 Copycat
-4 Celio's Network
-3 Steven's Avice
-1 Ancient Technical Machine (rock)
-1 Cristal shard
-3 Swoop! Teleporter
-3 Desert Ruins
-3 Rare Candy
-3 Pokemon Reversal

+60 Giant Stump

I don't think LudiCargo isn't going to be as good when Giant Stump is released. That card kills this deck.

[sebastianlugo]

Originally Posted by steelixEX

ta bien...gunter vs no podes desir nada de los mazos ludicolo q pusiste para jugar el nacional raidon y wuising...no descartemos q saliste 19 en el nac y 21 en el torneo de mar del plata q to2 eran maderas...asi q lugo segui con el spining tail y gunter...emmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...retirate de las cartas

ok juan but please post in english or you can banned :S gunther= madera :P

[sebastianlugo]

Originally Posted by Thunderbolt

-4 Plusle
-3 Lotad
-2 Lombre
-3 Ludicolo
-2 Slugma
-2 Magcargo
-2 Vulpix
-2 Ninetales
-1 Jirachi HL

-3 Fire nrgy
-7 Water nrgy
-3 DRE
-2 Scramble nrgy

-2 Copycat
-4 Celio's Network
-3 Steven's Avice
-1 Ancient Technical Machine (rock)
-1 Cristal shard
-3 Swoop! Teleporter
-3 Desert Ruins
-3 Rare Candy
-3 Pokemon Reversal

+60 Giant Stump

I don't think LudiCargo isn't going to be as good when Giant Stump is released. That card kills this deck.

MMm!! ok thunderbolt do you mean that stadium, it's going to be but popular than the BF or the desert ruins :S i don think it i preffer play BF or desert ruins.... :P

[sebastianlugo]

where is thunderbolt?? =P

[gunycabj]

Originally Posted by steelixEX

ta bien...gunter vs no podes desir nada de los mazos ludicolo q pusiste para jugar el nacional raidon y wuising...no descartemos q saliste 19 en el nac y 21 en el torneo de mar del plata q to2 eran maderas...asi q lugo segui con el spining tail y gunter...emmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...retirate de las cartas

Im sorry dd you won in Mar del Plata? Nop. Did Ale won in marr del plata? Nop. Did i won in Mar del plata? no, its very dificult when you start with slugma and no supporters in the first 3 battles. Anyway, lugo, all post have taken out the HL Jirachi, so i guess im rigth. The important thing in the first turns in a ludi´s setup is to make the first ludicolo and Magcargo. The when you have the first 2, the others go very fast. If you need 5 turns to get a 2 Ludcolos and 2 magcargos, you are attacking at least at turn 6, and ludi can be much faster than that.

[TacC]

Originally Posted by Thunderbolt

+60 Giant Stump

I don't think LudiCargo isn't going to be as good when Giant Stump is released. That card kills this deck.

Haha. Guess again.

And Sebastian... why do you need Reversal v. ZRE??? They will be bringing their exs to you!! Put up Ninetails and Admin them. Admin >>>>>>> Reversal against ZRE.

[DreamChaser AJ]

Originally Posted by Thunderbolt

-4 Plusle
-3 Lotad
-2 Lombre
-3 Ludicolo
-2 Slugma
-2 Magcargo
-2 Vulpix
-2 Ninetales
-1 Jirachi HL

-3 Fire nrgy
-7 Water nrgy
-3 DRE
-2 Scramble nrgy

-2 Copycat
-4 Celio's Network
-3 Steven's Avice
-1 Ancient Technical Machine (rock)
-1 Cristal shard
-3 Swoop! Teleporter
-3 Desert Ruins
-3 Rare Candy
-3 Pokemon Reversal

+60 Giant Stump

I don't think LudiCargo isn't going to be as good when Giant Stump is released. That card kills this deck.

I don't know if you know this, but you need not only at least 1 basic pokemon in your deck, but also can only have 4 Giant Stump in your deck as well...