Multiplayer questions inside

Perfect0ne · 08/12/2003, 06:42 AM

1. Can you play cards that say "you" like a professor or a ball on you partner instead of you?
2. What other possible ways can you target cards toward your partner? (i never really got into multiplayer...i've been in Unlimited and trading recently)

thanx

surfingpika · 08/12/2003, 08:19 AM

Yes, you can use cards that say you for your partner.
You can also use powers that would affect you on your partner, but the effect must stay with your partner. For example, you can use damage swap on your partner, but the damage counters cannot move to your pokemon.

Perfect0ne · 08/12/2003, 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by surfingpika

Yes, you can use cards that say you for your partner.
You can also use powers that would affect you on your partner, but the effect must stay with your partner. For example, you can use damage swap on your partner, but the damage counters cannot move to your pokemon.

thanx a lot

dkates · 08/12/2003, 11:16 AM

Basically, you can target a card to you or your partner if it has the word "you" in the text, but you have to either play as written or replace every "you" with "your partner". Bill, even though there is new "you," can be targeted to your partner, if I'm not mistaken -- I might be. Likewise, if the text has the words "your opponent," you can choose either opponent. For Pokemon Powers, whether it's a "you" or a "your opponent," you have to choose the target the instant you put it into play, and it cannot be changed while the card is in play. I'm not sure whether attacks that actually affect an opponent's Benched Pokemon have to be targeted to the opponent whose Active Pokemon you "attack," but I think you can attack one Active and the other's bench. I don't think it applies if it affects the Defending and a Benched, but I could be wrong.

Prof. Douglas Zuver · 08/12/2003, 03:05 PM

Small Guide to Team Play
Look at the Pokemon Floor Rules for the rest.

Whenever you see "you" or "your" on a card you HAVE
to choose between yourself or your partner.
Whenever you see "your opponent" you MUST choose
one of your opponents at that time.

Bill says "Draw 2 cards"
There is no you or your in the text, therefore you cannot use
Bill for your partner.

Copycat would allow you to choose which opponent you wanted to
copy and let you or your partner shuffle that hand into that
deck and draw the new cards.

If a Pokemon Power is always on, you must designate it when it
comes into play, as helping you or your partner or effecting one
of your opponents. (A paper marker helps if you have more than
one).

If a Pokemon Power turns on and off like Base Vensaur's,
then you may designate who it effects every time you use it.
You can change who Alakazam effects each time it is used,
but you may never move a damage counter or any other marker
from one player to another, except if the card does that
normally like "Rocket's Mewtwo."

If a Pokemon Power turns on only when that Pokemon is active,
then you designate it every time it becomes active.

Muk (Legndary Collection) shuts all Pokemon Powers off.
Magby Neo does likewise unless it is no longer active.

If a card states somewhere in the text, the words "defending
pokemon" then usually you cannot transfer extra effects to
your other opponent. A good example of this is Dark Gengar,
its attack mentions the Defending Pokemon not once, but
twice, so everything in its attack must go to there only.

Otherwise, if the attack says "you" or "your opponent" in the text
somewhere (even if it is a reminder note) then you MAY give
any of the Extra Effects of the attack to:
(Extra Effects are anything other than the big number on the
right side of the attack)

ONE -- your partner if it says you
The best example of this is you can attack one of your opponents
with Neo Cleffa and letting your partner shuffle their hand into their
deck and drawing seven new cards.

TWO -- the other opponent if it says your opponent.
(This is splitting the attack between two opponents)

The best example of this is doing the base damage to
one opponent's active and confusing the other opponent's
active pokemon.
Another example is Seadra's Mud Slap hitting one active
and doing bench damage to the other opponent's bench.

You always must specify ONE of your opponents as the defending
Pokemon even if your attack moves elsewhere such as Expedition
Mew's Super Psywave (there is no base damage to this attack,
it is all special effects-like the Faint Attack.)
If you use Murkrow Neo to attack a nonbaby active Pokemon
and then you may move the damage to the other opponents
active Baby without having to flip. However since Darkness Energy
says to do the extra 10 damage to the defending pokemon,
the baby receiving the damage would only take 20 for the
faint attack and none for the darkness energy.
The big number on the right side of the attack must always
go to that ONE pokemon specified at the beginning of the
attack as the defending pokemon.
(You can never call your partner's pokemon the
"defending pokemon", trying to avoid a baby flip for Eeeeeeek...)

One BIG misconception in Team Battle concerns Dark Ursaring
and Neo 2 Tyranitar. Both of these cards say to hit every
bench, BUT there is a reminder text in it that says:
"(Yours and your opponents)"
This FORCES you to choose one friendly bench and one
opponents bench. It does NOT hit all four benches.
While I was judging in the Team Battle World Championship
at Gen Con 2003, MTM himself said that if that reminder
text was not there, he would have banned that card.
Remeber what happened to Team Rocket's Mewoth which
did not have the reminder text in it...It WAS banned.
I judged Team at the World Championship last year, and
it was rather messy trying to keep track of 21+ coin flips
every time Team Rocket's Mewoth attacked.

As far as strategy goes, speed is rather important with the
possibility of two people double teaming you, and the
fact that two of you only need Five prizes instead of the
usual Six for one person.

Poison, Burn and Char affect a Pokemon at the end of every turn.
Sleep is week, because you flip at the end of every turn to
wake up.
Paralysis is about normal, the Paralysed Pokemon is unparalysed
at the end of ITS turn.

Hope this helps. :)

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08/12/2003, 06:42 AM	#1
Perfect0ne	Multiplayer questions inside 1. Can you play cards that say "you" like a professor or a ball on you partner instead of you? 2. What other possible ways can you target cards toward your partner? (i never really got into multiplayer...i've been in Unlimited and trading recently) thanx

08/12/2003, 08:19 AM	#2
surfingpika	Yes, you can use cards that say you for your partner. You can also use powers that would affect you on your partner, but the effect must stay with your partner. For example, you can use damage swap on your partner, but the damage counters cannot move to your pokemon.

08/12/2003, 11:16 AM	#4
dkates	Basically, you can target a card to you or your partner if it has the word "you" in the text, but you have to either play as written or replace every "you" with "your partner". Bill, even though there is new "you," can be targeted to your partner, if I'm not mistaken -- I might be. Likewise, if the text has the words "your opponent," you can choose either opponent. For Pokemon Powers, whether it's a "you" or a "your opponent," you have to choose the target the instant you put it into play, and it cannot be changed while the card is in play. I'm not sure whether attacks that actually affect an opponent's Benched Pokemon have to be targeted to the opponent whose Active Pokemon you "attack," but I think you can attack one Active and the other's bench. I don't think it applies if it affects the Defending and a Benched, but I could be wrong. __________________ Every time I think I can't say anything stupider, I prove myself wrong. Maybe I should just stop thinking. There's an exception to every rule, except this one. This one has two.

08/12/2003, 03:05 PM	#5
Prof. Douglas Zuver	Small Guide to Team Play Small Guide to Team Play Look at the Pokemon Floor Rules for the rest. Whenever you see "you" or "your" on a card you HAVE to choose between yourself or your partner. Whenever you see "your opponent" you MUST choose one of your opponents at that time. Bill says "Draw 2 cards" There is no you or your in the text, therefore you cannot use Bill for your partner. Copycat would allow you to choose which opponent you wanted to copy and let you or your partner shuffle that hand into that deck and draw the new cards. If a Pokemon Power is always on, you must designate it when it comes into play, as helping you or your partner or effecting one of your opponents. (A paper marker helps if you have more than one). If a Pokemon Power turns on and off like Base Vensaur's, then you may designate who it effects every time you use it. You can change who Alakazam effects each time it is used, but you may never move a damage counter or any other marker from one player to another, except if the card does that normally like "Rocket's Mewtwo." If a Pokemon Power turns on only when that Pokemon is active, then you designate it every time it becomes active. Muk (Legndary Collection) shuts all Pokemon Powers off. Magby Neo does likewise unless it is no longer active. If a card states somewhere in the text, the words "defending pokemon" then usually you cannot transfer extra effects to your other opponent. A good example of this is Dark Gengar, its attack mentions the Defending Pokemon not once, but twice, so everything in its attack must go to there only. Otherwise, if the attack says "you" or "your opponent" in the text somewhere (even if it is a reminder note) then you MAY give any of the Extra Effects of the attack to: (Extra Effects are anything other than the big number on the right side of the attack) ONE -- your partner if it says you The best example of this is you can attack one of your opponents with Neo Cleffa and letting your partner shuffle their hand into their deck and drawing seven new cards. TWO -- the other opponent if it says your opponent. (This is splitting the attack between two opponents) The best example of this is doing the base damage to one opponent's active and confusing the other opponent's active pokemon. Another example is Seadra's Mud Slap hitting one active and doing bench damage to the other opponent's bench. You always must specify *ONE* of your opponents as the defending Pokemon even if your attack moves elsewhere such as Expedition Mew's Super Psywave (there is no base damage to this attack, it is all special effects-like the Faint Attack.) If you use Murkrow Neo to attack a nonbaby active Pokemon and then you may move the damage to the other opponents active Baby without having to flip. However since Darkness Energy says to do the extra 10 damage to the defending pokemon, the baby receiving the damage would only take 20 for the faint attack and none for the darkness energy. The big number on the right side of the attack must always go to that *ONE* pokemon specified at the beginning of the attack as the defending pokemon. (You can never call your partner's pokemon the "defending pokemon", trying to avoid a baby flip for Eeeeeeek...) One BIG misconception in Team Battle concerns Dark Ursaring and Neo 2 Tyranitar. Both of these cards say to hit every bench, BUT there is a reminder text in it that says: "(Yours and your opponents)" This FORCES you to choose one friendly bench and one opponents bench. It does NOT hit all four benches. While I was judging in the Team Battle World Championship at Gen Con 2003, MTM himself said that if that reminder text was not there, he would have banned that card. Remeber what happened to Team Rocket's Mewoth which did not have the reminder text in it...It WAS banned. I judged Team at the World Championship last year, and it was rather messy trying to keep track of 21+ coin flips every time Team Rocket's Mewoth attacked. As far as strategy goes, speed is rather important with the possibility of two people double teaming you, and the fact that two of you only need Five prizes instead of the usual Six for one person. Poison, Burn and Char affect a Pokemon at the end of every turn. Sleep is week, because you flip at the end of every turn to wake up. Paralysis is about normal, the Paralysed Pokemon is unparalysed at the end of ITS turn. Hope this helps. :) Last edited by Prof. Douglas Zuver; 08/12/2003 at 03:10 PM.